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why? Because of the 2012 link that is old in linux terms says
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Over 30yrs programming in dozens of languages from assembly to Oracle database administration, and I've found nothing more secure and reliable than Puppy Linux
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I run Vanguard on one atom netbook and it is not a toy.
But opinions abound. Mine differs I guess.
Same netbook as this one.
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Machine: System: Intel product: Intel powered classmate PC v: 3rd Gen
Mobo: QCI model: Intel powered classmate PC v: 3rd Gen
Bios: Phoenix v: HP94510A.86A.0035.2009.0427.2020 date: 04/27/2009
which dates a little more recent than your link.
I kinda hate it when someone disses a linux distro that thousands are running over personal opinion. You do not hear me dissing arch.
If you are using a 64bit system? Fatdog64 is cool. The Puppies are a bit (no pun ) more work than most Ubun*s but you shouldn't be spreading around confidential info on any distro (especially the big square holes in the walls...) Unless you or the admin have secured it?
Last edited by jamison20000e; 08-06-2015 at 09:48 PM.
I agree with your non-recommendation of "puppy." My reason is quite simple -- I've never managed to get it to run direct from my hard drives. It runs nicely from the live CD (or ISO file, in a virtual machine) but even after running its install utility, it requires the CD and loads from it.
When my ancient Mandrake 8.1 system bit the dust almost a decade ago and I discovered that the then-current Mandriva distro could not run on the replacement box, I read about all the wonders of Ubuntu and did some research. I decided that the Xubuntu variation would probably do better on the replacement box since it didn't have a huge amount of RAM, and installed version 7.04 (in 2007). I've been using Xubuntu, which is the XFCE4 variation and omits much of the bloat that has crept into the mainline Ubuntu over the years, ever since. This box runs 14.04.3 and my other system (which serves primarily as my printer server) is still on 12.04.4; I learned early on that it's best to stay with the Long Term Support (LTS) versions, which appear in April of even-numbered years. The other releases seem to be betas for the next LTS, and consequently tend to have more bugs.
The default desktop doesn't bear much resemblance to Vista, Win7, or Win8, but it's quite similar to Win98 or Win95, and is very easy to configure to have almost any appearance you might desire.
Unity, like Win8, was explicitly described as a step toward the "tablet" interface when it first came out. Many folk like it. Many others, like myself, do not. Trying various things via live CD/DVD or USB installations is the best way to decide what's best for you.
I agree with your non-recommendation of "puppy." My reason is quite simple -- I've never managed to get it to run direct from my hard drives. It runs nicely from the live CD (or ISO file, in a virtual machine) but even after running its install utility, it requires the CD and loads from it.
My only reply to that is you did not install a boot loader.
Ubuntu holds your hand for that.
Puppy being a 100+ MB iso. Does not hold your hand during the installer phase except to say at the end. Finished. Now you can install a bootloader.
Apple and oranges comparison there.
Point is moot anyways. The OP is already running Vangaurd Puppy linux and has a thread started already on the fonts in firefox to small for their tastes.
... I've never managed to get it to run direct from my hard drives. It runs nicely from the live CD (or ISO file, in a virtual machine) but even after running its install utility, it requires the CD and loads from it.
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It needs finessing with GRUB, when I've installed it I alredy had GRUB installed and [code]update-grub[\code] didn't find it so (for my partitions &c:)
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(code is not right yet) sudo printf "#! /bin/sh\nset -e\n\necho "..."\ncat << EOF\nmenuentry "Fatdog64" {\nset root=(hd0,3)\nlinux /vmlinuz\ninitrd /initrd\n}\nEOF" >> /etc/grub.d/11_Fatdog64
I kinda hate it when someone disses a linux distro that thousands are running over personal opinion. You do not hear me dissing arch.
we had this discussion before, rokytnji.
it's true; i have done this once or twice in the past.
my recent comment however was not dissing; i simply wanted to point out how puppy linux fundamentally differs from other linux distros (yes, the root user thing). point this out to a newbie who otherwise probably wouldn't know it. and whatever decision they make later, it's ok with me.
and yes, it is my personal opinion.
just like 99% of all posts on this forum reflect someones personal opinion. but one can still do it politely and reasonably; which i believe i did. not dissing.
And then link to negative Arch rant to get my point across.
But no worries ondoho. I know your heart is in the right spot and I respect you as a fellow linux user and bro on the road.
I am just explaining how a bikers mindset works, in the real world.
I do not want to see a geek or nerd get hurt, in the real world, speaking their mind. Around a scooter tramp. Cuz in my world. Payback is a medivac.
So do not take my post to heart. I really only had a second of relapse,
forgetting to follow/listen to my own signature.
If you like Puppy Linux, which uses JWM, then you might want to try JWM as packaged by Ubuntu. Just because you're using Ubuntu doesn't mean you're stuck with their desktop. The right incantation to install JWM is likely similar to sudo apt-get install jwm. After it's installed you can log out and then select JWM at the log in screen - there's a button to the right of your name that expands a list of desktops/window managers you can choose from.
Edit: It looks like the JWM/Desktop setup on Puppy is fairly customized with a few more pieces than just JWM, so a vanilla setup might not be what you want if you're used to the Puppy Linux experience.
XFCE is also a solid choice if you want something a little less spartan than JWM.
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Originally Posted by ondoho
unity sucks.
Harsh.
Last edited by Myk267; 08-07-2015 at 02:40 PM.
Reason: Can't forget about XFCE!
ok, let me rephrase that:
"dear op, you stated in your first post that you have difficulty coming to terms with unity, and are looking for alternative, more traditional DEs. you have my complete sympathy & understanding."
Since I'm brand new to Linux, this may sound like an absurd question. I'm okay with that. Where do I find the desktop background image in a given distribution? If possible, I'd like to copy the picture I currently have on my Windows desktop.
What distro are you on now? As long as it automatically mounts your windows partitions you can set a background using an image from any-directory... not just /usr/share/wallpapers/ for example. ADD: if it does not mount automatically you could just copy.*jpg* to GNU\Linux*\ext***
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^ jamison20000e tends to repeat the last word of the previous post...
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Originally Posted by Seff
Since I'm brand new to Linux, this may sound like an absurd question. I'm okay with that. Where do I find the desktop background image in a given distribution? If possible, I'd like to copy the picture I currently have on my Windows desktop.
if i understand you correctly, you like the default background of your current distro and wonder where it is stored?
most probably in /usr/share/backgrounds, or /usr/share/wallpapers, or, if your DE is xfce4, in /usr/share/xfce4, and so on.
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