So, can You explain more how to get driver from repos or install new from repos, or even download it to a hard disk?

Jockey, synaptic, command line.

Ubuntu normally will only update the drivers for security/bug fixing reasons (eg 280.13-0ubuntu1 updated to 280.13-0ubuntu2).

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric...nvidia-current

I'm not aware of ubuntu ever changing the driver version post release.

AFAIK that is do-able, but its not something I know how to do offhand. You can probably use a search engine to find the answer if it really matters to you.

Jockey can only install what it has in system, or switch it. In fact, now i have bug that says that driver is not currently used (it was present in 11.04, on 11.10 i didn't have it till i decided to play with nVidia drivers).

Synaptic, in my case, installs only 280.13. Nothing newer.

Command line also installs only what it have in ubuntu archive, if i decide to install from ppa, driver doesen't work properly - just like binary driver.


I thought that from repos there is something newer or more than i already did.


Thanks.

One more thing. Look at this:

current-updates:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric...80.13-0ubuntu5

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric....13-0ubuntu5.1

and current-updates:

https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/oneiric....20-0ubuntu0.1

As You can see, there are three drivers:

280.13-5
280.13-5.1
295.20-0.1

But in my case, whenever i install by sudo apt-get install nvidia-current-updates than in fact 295.20 is not installed but 280.13 is installed, so i don't know how to force install newer.

I totally agree with Cascade9. If you really want to learn how to use Linux, just continue to use Slackware.

Using Ubuntu (or most any Debian based distro) will really only teach you how to install .deb packages with dependency management using apt-get or aptitude. And for learning how to manage repositories and install packages with dependency management using the APT package management tools (i.e., apt-get, aptitude, apt-cache, etc), Debian would be the better learning distro anyway imo.

There is the old maxim in the Linux world that goes something like this:
"If you want to learn Red Hat, then use Red Hat. If you want to learn Linux, then use Slackware".
I have been using Ubuntu much longer than I have been using Slackware. However, most of what I know about Linux I learned from using Slackware.
Stick with Slackware if you really want to learn how Linux works. You can't go wrong with Slackware.

I don't want to learn anything new regarding Slackware because i've been using it more than a year.

I want to know better Ubuntu, not Slackware because of this what i mentioned above.


Yes, i know this but it is not the point od problems with drivers.

Because that is what is in the ubuntu repos.

http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?ke...ll&section=all

295.20-0.1? i386 build of nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates 295.20-0ubuntu0.1 in ubuntu oneiric PROPOSED

You know how to force something newer, use manual install or a PPA.

So, basicly, you want to install newer drivers just to 'know what your doing', and it breaks stuff. C'est la vie. Which is why you are better off just using the repo drivers.

No, i don't know how to force install something newer - manual install causes all nvidia works wrong, and the same thing is with PPA. I don't understand what You mean with PROPOSED stuff.

No, i would like to try, force install, check and learn. Right now i know that it doesen't work and don't know why installing binary drivers from NVIDIA, manufacturer of my cards, breaks things like smplayer, x on all binary drivers from them, even with the same number like in repo.

PROPOSED menas its not actually in the repos. Its just an idea.

I dont know, you might be making some mistake with the manual install.

As for the PPAs, they shouldnt do what you are experiencing, but they have been known to cause issues.

I dont know why you are bothering. The 280.13 drivers in the *buntu 11.10 repos work, and stuffing around just seems to break things on you. I can see from another thread that you are also having issues with networking on 12.04......how many problems do you have to have until you give up a distro as bad/buggy/not for you?

+1.

Thanks.

It's not possible:

-downloaded drivers
-sudo chmod +x ./Nvidia-xxx
-sudo ./Nvidia-xxx

and that's all.

Good to know. Thanks.
I really like Ubuntu, Ubuntu idea and how it works. It's way better in term of speed, comfort than for an example Slackware and it's not buggy when we consider only 11.10 but buggy with net on 12.04 - poeple have some problems. Everything is to solve.

I like Ubuntu, i don't want another distro (i've been using Slackware which had big problems with KDE, speed of it. how the Dolphin works, how slow it works...when using for an example firefox with bookmarks and so on).

Its possible, there is more too it than just opening a terminal and running the installer.

Offhand, I'm sure you get out of the desktop, an stop the DM (lightdm with 11.10 IIRC). I think you need to get other stuff as well, like linux-headers.

Since almost everybody just uses jockey and the repo drivers, and those that dont use PPAs, after a quick search I couldnt even find a good guide for how to manually install the nVidia drivers with 11.10

What, taking a debian testing/sid release, adding a whole heap of junk and bugs to it?

If you mean operation speed (not install time) I'd be very suprised if a properly setup slackware using the same desktop as a *buntu would be slower.

Comparing slackware with KDE to ubuntu with unity isnt a good speed test. Different DEs will run differently.

Something is suposedly a 'stable' release thats been out for several months shouldnt have bugs. When its what canonical calls a LTS version like 12.04, thats even worse.

Then you've probably made a mistake with slackware then.....

This is for v.10, but this work all version:

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-inst...ucid-lynx.html


Don't know what bugs cause, in fact, all thing works here just like they should. Also, Ubuntu is something easy to learn and because of it "we" can switch from Windows without pain.

I tested clean, fresh many installs and on all KDE from 4.55 to 4.8.2 i have the same bugs:

-dolphin menager works wery slow. When i click in "my computer" than it should react instant, on my setup it takes a while...while...while and when i work with it it is not acceptable
-bookmarks of firefox freezes, firefox slow down with it
It is about the reaction of window menager, reaction of opening menagers, folders - in my case because of Dolphin it was pain in...

It happens with all Linux distros. Slackware have also bugs, for an example - in one kde relases calculator didn't worked well.

No, i didn't cause it gave me solid background regarding Linux, terminal and so on.


It's not the right topic for such an dispute

No it will NOT work with all versions.

http://www.ubuntugeek.com/simple-lightdm-manager.html

Restarting GDM is not going to work when you have lightDM.

As far as I know, that guide is wrong anyway, there isnt any 'stop *DM'.

You do realise the irony of you have been sayign on this thread? 1st its 'cannot be done', now you are posting stuff and saying 'this works with all versions'.

Like your network working perfectly with 12.04?

Yeah, you've missed what I said. Try using kubuntu, I'd bet that a properly setup slackware KDE would be at least as fast as kubuntu....and I'd bet on it being faster.

'Didnt work well' in what way? It would be an upstream 'bug' anyway, if its a bug at all.

I disagree.

It works because:


Yes, i know it because lightdm replaced gdm, so in this case it should be like:

and it works.


I just found what is at fault. It is not by any system settings. One Asus cards doesen't work well with it (device is not ready), while other on Realtek works ok. It's either kernel problem or driver in 12.04. So yes, perfectly because there are tons of drivers, vendors, lan cards so bugs will occur.


Maybe my english is bad and at fault here but i didn't get it. I compared window menagers and how they works. As a matter of fact on Kubuntu dolphin was much faster than on Slackware, also on Kubuntu i hadn't bugs and problems with how it fast works when clicking folders, opening "my computer" where are my disks and folders.

'Didnt work well' in what way? It would be an upstream 'bug' anyway, if its a bug at all.


Of course, you can

So does that mean you've got your (pointless IMO) newer drivers installed?

Or it could be a *buntu bug.

In that case, I belive that you've made a mistake in setting up slackware.

Kubuntu (and *buntus in general) are know to beslow when compared to many other distros, and slackware is one of the best.