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Old 10-15-2005, 12:30 PM   #16
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n00b question here. I already have Hoary, and there's an icon on the top toolbar for periodic updates. I wouldn't be able to get Breezy by clicking on that icon? I have to use apt-get dist-upgrade?
 
Old 10-15-2005, 12:41 PM   #17
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n00b question here. I already have Hoary, and there's an icon on the top toolbar for periodic updates. I wouldn't be able to get Breezy by clicking on that icon? I have to use apt-get dist-upgrade?
For apt-get dist-upgrade to work properly you'll need to go into your repository settings and add all of the Breezy repositories and remove the Hoary repositories. Then you'll be able to upgrade to 5.10.
Clicking on the icon now will get you updates for 5.04 (Hoary).
 
Old 10-15-2005, 01:08 PM   #18
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I think Breezy upgrade is really cool.. Its much better than what i had Warthy

Its much much better and SAFE..
 
Old 10-15-2005, 01:26 PM   #19
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I think Breezy upgrade is really cool.. Its much better than what i had Warthy

Its much much better and SAFE..
Agreed. I also really like Breezy. It is indeed a worthwhile upgrade!
 
Old 10-15-2005, 10:35 PM   #20
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Academically, i needed Lex and Yacc which seems to get omitted from all Distros after RH9.. I have written to Ubuntu about that.. I Installed Bison and Flex instead.. Other than that i had a problem with the screen resolution.. I managed to overcome that by changing the Refresh rates of the Moniter in the conf file.. No other problems till date..
 
Old 10-16-2005, 01:48 AM   #21
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Finally I've upgraded to Breezy, but not an easy task...

First I try using dist-upgrade, after changing the source list, it didn't go quite well.. I had problems with unmet dependencies, at some point I had a system half Hoary half Breezy. As I said before I was willing to take my chances here and test apt-get. I guess the upgrade was massive so it just couldn't finished. I remember that first it downloaded 1900 packages (1.5 Gb) then downloaded for a second time 790 packages (340 Mb) and still I had problems with a library, I just couldn't go far away from that point

Boxerboy you were right!, after this setback I follow your advice and did a fresh install from a CD with Breezy, unfortunately I have to do all the configuration again, I just finished installing my Nvidia card, still a lot of things to do....

The problem here is that I don't believe that we should do a fresh install every six months, it's to much work to do. I was hopping that apt-get will help me, not the case. This is a feature that will be very necessary in the future. Given the fact that no other distro has it, Ubuntu will have here a great advantage.

What I could propose is to work in apt-get and add a new command that will upgrade in phases: first only the core packages, then a next level maybe all the Gnome Desktop, and third other packages.. And of course in each phase an in depth check that everything is working fine,

What do you think?
 
Old 10-16-2005, 02:21 AM   #22
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Sometimes it could be a problem if you dist-upgrade to soon after a new release. I usually wait maybe a month or so before doing it. Using Debian Sid. This way maybe whatever bugs/problems will be worked out.

When I did install Warty, I didn't upgrade to Hoary for about 3 months, but the main reason was I didn't use it often. I don't have hoary install now but waiting on the pressed cds from Ubu before installing Breezy.
 
Old 10-16-2005, 07:33 AM   #23
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Originally posted by victorh
Finally I've upgraded to Breezy, but not an easy task...

First I try using dist-upgrade, after changing the source list, it didn't go quite well.. I had problems with unmet dependencies, at some point I had a system half Hoary half Breezy. As I said before I was willing to take my chances here and test apt-get. I guess the upgrade was massive so it just couldn't finished. I remember that first it downloaded 1900 packages (1.5 Gb) then downloaded for a second time 790 packages (340 Mb) and still I had problems with a library, I just couldn't go far away from that point

Boxerboy you were right!, after this setback I follow your advice and did a fresh install from a CD with Breezy, unfortunately I have to do all the configuration again, I just finished installing my Nvidia card, still a lot of things to do....

The problem here is that I don't believe that we should do a fresh install every six months, it's to much work to do. I was hopping that apt-get will help me, not the case. This is a feature that will be very necessary in the future. Given the fact that no other distro has it, Ubuntu will have here a great advantage.

What I could propose is to work in apt-get and add a new command that will upgrade in phases: first only the core packages, then a next level maybe all the Gnome Desktop, and third other packages.. And of course in each phase an in depth check that everything is working fine,

What do you think?
Greetings! It's nice to meet another Slacker!
I agree, doing a clean install every six months is indeed a bit of a pain. I like the idea of a phased upgrade. I've also just finished upgrading to 5.10, which took two days with my two Ubuntu boxes. I did clean installs on both units, but, had to re-do one as Synaptic wasn't functioning properly. Now everything is working. Breezy is an awesome distro!

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Old 10-16-2005, 10:05 AM   #24
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Actually Ubuntu is just in its beginning stages.. And they are growing really fast.. At this rate they will be able to achieve much better than other distros.. Having used all the three versions now, thats one conclusion i have come to..
 
Old 10-16-2005, 11:49 AM   #25
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well i downloaded a fresh copy of 5.10

I downloaded a fresh copy of 5.10, from linuxqestions (617 MB), & burned the iso to a CD,

This way i have a backup copy, in case the calamity occurs...... or some major trouble....!!!
 
Old 10-16-2005, 06:17 PM   #26
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Originally posted by victorh
Finally I've upgraded to Breezy, but not an easy task...

First I try using dist-upgrade, after changing the source list, it didn't go quite well.. I had problems with unmet dependencies, at some point I had a system half Hoary half Breezy. As I said before I was willing to take my chances here and test apt-get. I guess the upgrade was massive so it just couldn't finished. I remember that first it downloaded 1900 packages (1.5 Gb) then downloaded for a second time 790 packages (340 Mb) and still I had problems with a library, I just couldn't go far away from that point

Boxerboy you were right!, after this setback I follow your advice and did a fresh install from a CD with Breezy, unfortunately I have to do all the configuration again, I just finished installing my Nvidia card, still a lot of things to do....

The problem here is that I don't believe that we should do a fresh install every six months, it's to much work to do. I was hopping that apt-get will help me, not the case. This is a feature that will be very necessary in the future. Given the fact that no other distro has it, Ubuntu will have here a great advantage.
The upgrade was relatively smooth on my system. There were quite a lot of unmet dependencies but nothing a couple of apt-get -f install's couldn't fix. The whole process took a couple of hours because of the slow download speeds.

Breezy is running just just fine without having to reconfigure my system, and I cleaned the mess using deborphan.
 
Old 10-16-2005, 11:11 PM   #27
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Greetings Hitest!, nice to know you're a Slacker too.

Well, I must say that I do believe that apt-get is an excellent program, and I do think it will be the standard for Linux as the package manager in few time. I hope that the developers keep doing such a good job and that dist-upgrade could be polished a little bit more.

And Angkor, I'm glad that you have successfully upgraded, that proves that it is possible to do apt-get dist-upgrade in this case.
 
Old 10-16-2005, 11:38 PM   #28
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Greetings Hitest!, nice to know you're a Slacker too.

Well, I must say that I do believe that apt-get is an excellent program, and I do think it will be the standard for Linux as the package manager in few time. I hope that the developers keep doing such a good job and that dist-upgrade could be polished a little bit more.

And Angkor, I'm glad that you have successfully upgraded, that proves that it is possible to do apt-get dist-upgrade in this case.
Hi victorh! Yep, I love slack, I've been using it since 10.0.
I'll use apt-get dist-upgrade on Dapper Drake perhaps in 6 months. Doing a clean install is a bit of a pain, but, it works. Ubuntu is awesome.
 
Old 10-16-2005, 11:58 PM   #29
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Well, I'm using it since 10.1, but I like it, and I'm planning to upgrade to 10.2, but I don't know if I would do it, since I compile the kernel 2.6.13 and I have the latest Gnome Desktop from freerock.

But Ubuntu is very good as well, I like the philosophy behind this distro, I hope to receive my cd order so I could share with others, i like their pressed Cds. I can't wait!
 
Old 10-17-2005, 12:08 AM   #30
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Well, I'm using it since 10.1, but I like it, and I'm planning to upgrade to 10.2, but I don't know if I would do it, since I compile the kernel 2.6.13 and I have the latest Gnome Desktop from freerock.

But Ubuntu is very good as well, I like the philosophy behind this distro, I hope to receive my cd order so I could share with others, i like their pressed Cds. I can't wait!
I think you'll like 10.2, they've changed the look of KDE a bit in 10.2 it's KDE 3.4. I'm using XFce 4 though in slack 10.2 (resource issues).
I've also ordered the pressed CDs, and will also share with my friends when they arrive. I'm also impressed with the philosophy of this distro, true FOSS! I like Ubuntu a lot.
 
  


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