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Old 08-06-2005, 03:52 AM   #31
Shinigami-Sama
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all right, after scouring this board for two hours, albit I was dealing with other things during that two hours,
anyways onto the main problem
after install, it said "remove any bootable media" and ejected my cd tray, I removed the cd and pushed tte drive back in, everything loaded fine, I got to the ubuntu login page, loged in, the splash screen showed, then froze, windows boots fine, I used the lastest amd64 "horay hedghog" image for this install, I've never used any *nix before, that last time I used CLI was back on dos6 7 years ago
so far I havn't seen anything that looks like a fix, but I'm getting lost in all the comand switches right now, I;ve tried to boot using all the options it gives me
amd65 generic -defualt-
amd64 generic
amd64 generic -default- reover
amd46 generic recover

and
windows xp sp2

every time it gets to the slapsh screen, the sound crackles and every freezes, I can't login to change anything either, I'm thinking I have to reinstall but I have no idea seeing as how I'm an uber-newb at the moment
laptop stats:"
Code:
amd64 3500+
1028mb 33mhz ddr  sdram
80gb (5400rpm) hdd spilt into 4 partions, ntfs, ext2(boot) ext3(files) fat32(os swaping) and swap
ati xpress 200m (128vram +128system ram)
any help would be apericated
in the lowest common denomiator if possible
thanks

~edit:
via acronis partitionexpert I've found that my filesstem has an ivail block list
I assume I have to reformat and install ubuntu then and the patition it;s onor switch from ext2 t oext3 I;ve read that ext2 is rather flacky with block lists...

Last edited by Shinigami-Sama; 08-06-2005 at 04:20 AM.
 
Old 08-06-2005, 10:44 PM   #32
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ext2 is faster than ext3, but ext3 is a really good idea to use anyways, espescially on a laptop. If your system freezes or powers off somehow accidentally, ext2 has no journaling capabilities (which is what makes it faster). This makes data loss in this situation an unfortunate possibility...moreso than ext3 or any journaling filesystem.

Also, I recommend using partition magic for altering Windows partitions and qtparted (available for free on Knoppix....which is a free live linux cd) for altering Linux partitions. Seems to work better that way.

Also, do not use reiserfs, xfs or jfs if you are going to use Partition Magic. It has this stupid bug where if it doesn't recognize a file system, it won't even let you edit filesystems that it does recognize on the same disk, and it currently only recognizes Linux Swap, ext2 and ext3 for Linux Filesystems. So, for instance, if you have 2 partitions on a disk, one ntfs for windows and one xfs for linux, it won't let you do anything on that disk, even to the windows partition. With ext2 and 3, it doesn't have this problem. This may have changed in a newer version of Partition Magic though.

Anyways, I would recommend trying again with ext3 formatted using Ubuntu's installer or qtparted or even the command line linux tools if you feel like it, and if all else fails, give the 32 bit version of Ubuntu a shot.

I doubt on a Laptop 64 bits is a major requirement at this point and time anyways.
 
Old 08-06-2005, 10:48 PM   #33
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ahh I already changed the ext2 to ext3
got a login error that no-one anywhere is a.) willing to tell me how to fix it
or b.) no-one knows
I assume it's "a"
I spent all day brosweing hte forum for ubuntu login erros, and ubuntuforums.org, and I have to say, so far these are least newb-friendly forums I've on so far, makes me kinda sad, I guess everyone is cuaght up in their own errors
 
Old 08-06-2005, 11:35 PM   #34
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I'm sorry, but people wouldn't come to this site to not tell you how to fix your problems. Would kind of defeat the purpose of this site. So I'm leaning more towards b myself.

Now, if you would kindly respond to my last comment, telling me what you used to partition your Linux partitions and to format them, and also whether or not you tried the 32 bit version of Ubuntu on your laptop, it might help me to help you a bit more than ranting about how people on a site dedicated to helping people fix Linux problems aren't willing to help you fix a Linux problem.

There is also a distinct possibility that the reason you can't find any information regarding your problem is that your problem is unique. Since you are using Ubuntu for free and all, submitting the bug to Ubuntu's Bugzilla is the least you could do. It would most likely be fixed faster than attempting to piss people off that are trying to help you.

This may look a bit harsh, but it is a good thing to remember for the future. Now, please respond to my last post and I will try to help you more.
 
Old 08-07-2005, 12:40 AM   #35
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ahh sorry I was rather frusted when I posted that, than it was 80F @ 90% humidity doesn't make me very happy
I used acronis parition magic at first, then it gave me an on install saying hte partition wasn't standard do you with fomat the partion, so I reformated them all using the installer's partioner
no I havn't gott'n the ubuntu 32bit yet, if I have time tommorow maybe I'll try but I don't think I'll have time for a couple days
 
Old 08-07-2005, 01:16 AM   #36
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Alright, probably a good idea. 64 bit Linux is great on the server, but I have heard it has its fallbacks on the desktop, and espescially on a laptop. Since I doubt you will be running intensive database applications on your laptop that require more than 4 GB of RAM, I don't think you will notice much difference between Ubuntu x86 and Ubuntu AMD64.
 
Old 08-07-2005, 01:19 AM   #37
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it's more or less just so I can get used to server-esk disrtos after all in two years I'll be a network tech, so I figured a 64bit os would be a nice one to get used to
 
Old 08-07-2005, 01:47 AM   #38
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You won't notice a difference unless you are actually running a server (which isn't the best idea on a laptop). Even then, you will only notice a difference if you are running things like Oracle (again, not a good idea on a laptop).

Anyways, Red Hat rules the Linux server market. Novell comes second. Using SUSE 9.3 or CentOS 4.1 would get you more used to the widely used systems. Both have 32 and 64 bit versions.
 
Old 08-07-2005, 02:17 AM   #39
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alright, thanks mate, I'll check out suse now, I havn't heard one complaint about it yet so it must be atlest medicore, well work tomorow and waking up early, time for me to log for the night
 
  


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