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Old 03-23-2012, 04:46 PM   #1
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System freezes after a certain IDLE time


Hello Everyone,

I'm a OpenSuse user from some time ago. However, i'm experiencing freezes in my system and i would like to ask for your help.
Currently I use OS 12.1 X86-64 and i've obtained an old video card (geforce gt 8600), i've installed the driver from Nvidia (using zypper and nvidia repository), but, when my system is IDLE for a certain time after the screensaver is started, my system just hangs, no screen movement, no kb responses, nothing. i've tried to restart the x server, but no luck.

I'll post the kernel logs some time later as i'm at the office right now and I really appreciate your support =D
 
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Is it going into standby?
 
Old 03-26-2012, 11:13 AM   #3
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Is it going into standby?
Yes, the system can go into standby, shutdown the display and bring it up again working perfectly, etc.

I've not been able to find this issue, also, it sometimes happens when the system is booting up, or while displaying the screensaver, working... i've not been able to find this issue and i've no error messages on the kernel logs.... (the lattest is mounting a NTFS via ntfs-3g)...

Yesterday, i was working on Google Earth and the system freezed on a very uncommon way: i was able to move the mouse (like a glitch, but nothing else in the system works, and the mouse had finished freezeing completly. i've to do a hard-shutdown (pluggin out the power cord).
 
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Chipset? Posting the output of lspci might be good. you can run update-pciids first, just in case.
 
Old 03-26-2012, 01:42 PM   #5
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Chipset? Posting the output of lspci might be good. you can run update-pciids first, just in case.
Thanks for your reply, however, I'm not at my computer right now, but I can give you some high level details:
CPU: Phenom II 755 BE at 2.9Ghz
Ram: 4G adata xpg 1333
Motherboard: ecs 790gxm-ad3
chipset: AMD 790GX
Video: Geforce GT 8600, 512 vram
HDD: seagate 160G, 3 partitions: home, root & swap
Powers supply: 500w (i don't remember the manufacturer).

Once at home, i can put the lspci output =D
 
Old 03-26-2012, 07:53 PM   #6
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Chipset? Posting the output of lspci might be good. you can run update-pciids first, just in case.
Hi again,

Here you have the output of lspci:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
00:02.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (ext gfx port 0)
00:06.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 2)
00:07.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 3)
00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 IDE Controller
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 LPC host controller
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB7x0/SB8x0/SB9x0 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller
00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Miscellaneous Control
00:18.4 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Link Control
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)
02:00.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 02)
03:00.0 SATA controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB361 AHCI/IDE (rev 02)
03:00.1 IDE interface: JMicron Technology Corp. JMB361 AHCI/IDE (rev 02)
 
Old 03-26-2012, 08:30 PM   #7
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CPU: Phenom II 755 BE at 2.9Ghz
The AMD website doesn't know a Phenom II 755 BE nor any other Phenom II X3 (which it should be with a 7XX model number) with 2.9GHz. Is this by any chance a modified (core unlocked) or overclocked system?
 
Old 03-26-2012, 10:46 PM   #8
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The AMD website doesn't know a Phenom II 755 BE nor any other Phenom II X3 (which it should be with a 7XX model number) with 2.9GHz. Is this by any chance a modified (core unlocked) or overclocked system?
Sorry by that, I gave you an incorrect CPU number. The processor is a Phenom II x3 720 BE at 2.8 Ghz.
http://products.amd.com/en-us/Deskto...&f11=&f12=True

I also put my cpu info:
> cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 16
model : 4
model name : AMD Phenom(tm) II X3 720 Processor
stepping : 2
cpu MHz : 2800.000
cache size : 512 KB
cpu cores : 3

The processor is not oc'ed =D

i've made some bios settings changes and it seems to be more stable:
enabling "assign IRQ to VGA" and setting Sata to IDE.
anything else is at default.
 
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Setting SATA to IDE should not be the culprit normally. In my experience system freezes are mostly caused by overclocked/too hot hardware (since you don't have your system overclocked check the cooling system of CPU and GPU for dust) or by faulty PSUs. Most of the time it is a faulty PSU. Since you recently added a videocard to your system that may be just to much for that PSU. Do you have a spare PSU to test?
 
Old 03-27-2012, 10:34 AM   #10
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Setting SATA to IDE should not be the culprit normally. In my experience system freezes are mostly caused by overclocked/too hot hardware (since you don't have your system overclocked check the cooling system of CPU and GPU for dust) or by faulty PSUs. Most of the time it is a faulty PSU. Since you recently added a videocard to your system that may be just to much for that PSU. Do you have a spare PSU to test?
No, i don't have any spare PSU unit to test and i've checked the temperatures and they are at 55ºc at high workload (stress tools)(the chip can support 73ºc). And you're right, the change in the IDE has nothing important, the system keeps freezing with no reason.

I'd to switch yesterday to win 7 again, and it doesn't froze until i've upgraded the nvidia driver to version 295.x an I began to have this freezing problem on win, so i was forced to rollback and use an old version: 285.x (I believe those version numbers are correct).
today evening i'll rollback to version 285.x on OS and test if my machine is still freezing (using drivers from nvidia website and removing the one installed with yast). I'll keep you posted if this solution works =D

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Old 03-27-2012, 11:36 PM   #11
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No, i don't have any spare PSU unit to test and i've checked the temperatures and they are at 55ºc at high workload (stress tools)(the chip can support 73ºc). And you're right, the change in the IDE has nothing important, the system keeps freezing with no reason.

I'd to switch yesterday to win 7 again, and it doesn't froze until i've upgraded the nvidia driver to version 295.x an I began to have this freezing problem on win, so i was forced to rollback and use an old version: 285.x (I believe those version numbers are correct).
today evening i'll rollback to version 285.x on OS and test if my machine is still freezing (using drivers from nvidia website and removing the one installed with yast). I'll keep you posted if this solution works =D
Hello Everyone,

I've switched to nvidia driver 285.05.09 (nov 2011) and it works really nice and I haven't had a system freeze for more than 3 hours of continuous work =D (with the other driver, the system may freeze at boot =S). I hope this problem is complete gone =D. i'll keep you posted.
 
Old 03-28-2012, 04:08 PM   #12
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Hello,

A quick update. the system has been running without freezes after the driver downgrade. I would like to thank you all for your replies and support. I'll keep testing for some days to make sure no more freezes occurs and the system is stable.
Also, I'll post this information on nvidia website and will keep you all posted on this
 
Old 03-28-2012, 11:23 PM   #13
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Thank you everyone, the system is now stable for some hours straight (at least 1 day). i'm givin this thread as solved =D
 
  


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