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Old 06-17-2005, 01:21 PM   #1
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Suse 9.3 dvd, what to download?


I want to try Suse 9.3, and I've found this site:
ftp.mirror.ac.uk/mirror/ftp.suse.com/i386/9.3/

Now, what should I download? There's no ISO or such way to get any, but the FTP-install. That is not an option however, while my Internet connection is through my modem. But I can download the whole thing by a friend, and then I can burn it to a DVD. How should I do it? What should be placed where?
Is there any way to split the installation into two discs, as the dual-layer technology isn't that stable yet, dual-layer discs are expensive as... what-not, and besides my friend hasn't any dual-layer capable recorder.

Regards,

Stefanos
 
Old 06-17-2005, 02:11 PM   #2
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I am sure there is a 5 CD version that you can DL as well as the DVD version
 
Old 06-17-2005, 10:29 PM   #3
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Suse 9.3 isn't exactly legal yet, I think. If you are looking to find the distro download and install bitcomet, then go to www.torrentspy.com and search Suse 9.3 32. You should select the one with the most green bars that has SuSe 9.3 32 bit edition and download it, then burn the .iso to a disc and install. DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE DUAL LAYER, you can't split it up.
 
Old 06-18-2005, 03:39 AM   #4
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Thanks!
What about those CD:s? Do they contain the same thing as the DVD?
I'd rather like the DVD, since I'm a bit comfortable.

Stefanos

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Old 06-18-2005, 11:36 PM   #5
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If the CD's say Suse 9.3 DVD 32 bit, then they are the same thing as the DVD 9.3 32 bit. Suse offers both DVD and CD packages. I use SuSe for linux on my laptop because other distro's don;t offer the great driver support etc. so I used a DVD. If you plan on running linux on older comps you might want the CD;s though. I like the DVD a lot because its less to carry, and during na install its a pain to have to keep changing around discs. DVD is REALLY a lot more convenient. anyways gluck
 
Old 06-20-2005, 05:44 AM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by elliotfuller
Suse 9.3 isn't exactly legal yet, I think. If you are looking to find the distro download and install bitcomet, then go to www.torrentspy.com and search Suse 9.3 32. You should select the one with the most green bars that has SuSe 9.3 32 bit edition and download it, then burn the .iso to a disc and install. DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE DUAL LAYER, you can't split it up.
download the Suse 9.3 professional retail ISO=pirate.......
 
Old 06-20-2005, 08:36 AM   #7
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download the Suse 9.3 professional retail ISO=pirate.......
This has been discussed previously in this forum and is not completely true. You need to consider the individual licences of non-SUSE packages contained on those ISO's, but they may be freely distributable. The SUSE distribution is generally free.
 
Old 06-20-2005, 09:46 AM   #8
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This has been discussed previously in this forum and is not completely true. You need to consider the individual licences of non-SUSE packages contained on those ISO's, but they may be freely distributable. The SUSE distribution is generally free.
How about Red hat enterprise linux?
 
Old 06-20-2005, 09:58 AM   #9
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How about Red hat enterprise linux?
I don't know, maybe someone in the RedHat forum?
 
Old 06-20-2005, 09:18 PM   #10
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Quote:
Originally posted by hkl8324
download the Suse 9.3 professional retail ISO=pirate.......
As of Suse 9.3 that is no longer true. Open

You may share/copy/redistribute/etc. PROVIDING you receive NO compensation for the distribution, and do not bundle it with any hardware, software, service, or product. This means that if you receive ANYTHING in return you are in violation of the license. Search and you will find many similar threads where I reposted the related portion of the license copied directly from the DVD.

Of course you are free to take the source, compile it, and distribute THAT for profit or bundle it with product and/or services (a la CentOS) but why would you? Novell has made clarified copyright and license issues in 9.3 and they produce an excellent distribution so why not buy at least one copy to support their continued efforts? Novell really ought to be commended by clarifying our rights as users in 9.3. In 9.1 they forbade redistribution, and in 9.2 it was still unclear (I skipped 9.2 BTW - I downloaded the "evaluation" and didn't find it worth the effort to upgrade everyone) but in 9.3 they make it crystal clear.

--Kim
 
Old 06-23-2005, 03:06 PM   #11
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Thanks for all replies!
Before I started this thread I searched around the forum, so I knew that downloading the DVD
was virtually legal, that was not my problem.
Well I went into a magazine store yesterday, and as always I checked the computer shelve.
Then I this German magazine: "c't magazin für computer technik" with a double DVD enclosed.
It said that the DVD contained SuSE 9.3 Personal, but something during the installation
pointed out that it might be SuSE 9.3 Professional. Not sure though.
What (re-)striked me was how slow the installation was (I've tested 9.1 before), a good 3 hours!

And the GUI isn't that speedy either, but well. I guess I have to put up with it for now.

One thing that I have gotten used to in other distro's (Mandrake, Gentoo) is that the devel-version
of several (almost every) packages is included on the installation media, offering to install programs
distributed in source code format. In Gentoo it is even so that the devel-libraries is included in the
same package as the binaries themselves (i.e. SDL package contains both SDL runtime and headers).
Either case is *not* the case of SuSE. The devels are not included, which makes it quite a hazzle for me.
As I've got modem (Lucent Winmodem which doesn't work with ltmodem driver (in any Linux system))
it's neither practical, nor possible to download packages and updates via Yast2 (which is the
slowest installer I've ever encountered). I'm stuck!
Is there perhaps any "devel CD"- or "devel DVD"-iso out there containing devel packages
which a friend to me can download?

The overall experience of SuSE is quite nice, BUT is considerably lowered by the lack of important (crucial)
packages for networkless users, and the slowness of the system (it is not limited to the
installation procedure, the whole system works at turtle speed). I'm a bit disappointed since SuSE is said to
be a professional product developed by professionals.

Well, if anyone can help me, I'd be glad.
Regards,

Stefanos
 
Old 06-23-2005, 08:07 PM   #12
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Quote:
Originally posted by jagot
knew that downloading the DVD
was virtually legal
Not "virtually" legal. Expressly allowed for in the license, provided NO compensation is received in return.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 10:33 AM   #13
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Quote:
Originally posted by elliotfuller
If the CD's say Suse 9.3 DVD 32 bit, then they are the same thing as the DVD 9.3 32 bit.
Not really. There is much more software on the DVD version then the CD's. IIRC, there are about 1000 more apps on the DVD plus the 64 bit version.
 
Old 06-28-2005, 09:28 PM   #14
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Quote:
Originally posted by elliotfuller
Suse 9.3 isn't exactly legal yet, I think. If you are looking to find the distro download and install bitcomet, then go to www.torrentspy.com and search Suse 9.3 32. You should select the one with the most green bars that has SuSe 9.3 32 bit edition and download it, then burn the .iso to a disc and install. DO NOT DOWNLOAD THE DUAL LAYER, you can't split it up.
Bitcomet?

Bitcomet have no linux port
 
Old 06-28-2005, 09:32 PM   #15
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Im assuming hes migrating from Windows
 
  


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