Hi

I have just upgraded from 9.2 to 10 and while initailly there was no sound at all and kmix was not initiated e.g. blank I managed to get kmix up by running alsaconf. My sound drive is now SIS 7012 (alsa) and if I run a cdrom (music) its great. However any attempt to run either Amorak or Xine (DVD) produces no sound from these progammes at all.

I ran both Ismod and ispci to see what going on put everything appears OK. The sound hardware listing in YAST also shows SIS 7012 loaded. I am quite sure that under previous versions of Suse my sound card was configured as AC97. This is what is seen on my win98 partition. Below is a copy of the lsmod and lspci files.

If anyone can throw any light on this I would br grateful.

smod file (part)

Module Size Used by
snd_seq_dummy 3716 0
snd_pcm_oss 59168 0
snd_mixer_oss 18944 1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq 51984 1 snd_seq_dummy
snd_seq_device 8588 2 snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq
snd_intel8x0 33408 0
snd_ac97_codec 90876 1 snd_intel8x0
snd_ac97_bus 2432 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 93064 3 snd_pcm_oss,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 24452 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 60420 9 snd_seq_dummy,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_intel8x0,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,s nd_timer
soundcore 9184 1 snd
snd_page_alloc 10632 2 snd_intel8x0,snd_pcm

lspci file

00:00.0 Class 0600: 1039:0746 (rev 02)
00:01.0 Class 0604: 1039:0002
00:02.0 Class 0601: 1039:0963 (rev 25)
00:02.1 Class 0c05: 1039:0016
00:02.5 Class 0101: 1039:5513
00:02.7 Class 0401: 1039:7012 (rev a0)
00:03.0 Class 0c03: 1039:7001 (rev 0f)
00:03.1 Class 0c03: 1039:7001 (rev 0f)
00:03.2 Class 0c03: 1039:7002
00:04.0 Class 0200: 1039:0900 (rev 90)
01:00.0 Class 0300: 10de:0181 (rev a2)


Grabro

i had a problem like this to(konsole root etc/init.d/alsasound restart) when you boot try and restart the sound that solved my problem. What APU do u have?

Thanks for the idea but unfortunately it does not work. Indeed I have found out a number of things

1. Everytime I switch the computer off it defaults back to the original settings e.g.
Kmix is blank (with no card registered)

2. YAST lists my sound driver as exactly that "Sound Card". Once alsaconf is run it thens shows SI7012 as my driver.

3. The first time I ran aslaconf it played a test tune which I heard however since then I do not hear the test tune when running alsaconf.

Thanks anyway

grabro

Hi

I have not solved the problem but I have found out more info.
1. On initial boot the sound card is not indentified and accordingly there is no sound from anywhere.
2. With a bit of fiddling I can get YAST to see the card SIS 7012 (alsa) which gives me sound from the cdrom drive only.
3. I have xine setup to play dvd's but theri is no sound
4. Amarok will crash immediately I try to play a mp3 tune.
5. My hardware report shows two modules of which snd_intel8x0 is loaded as card 0
6. I can also activate module i810_audio but it has no affect.
7. The IRQ 10 and the I/O DC00 and D800 and Windows uses the same resources and the sound is perfect.

There is obviously an incompatibilty somewhere. Does anyone know of diagnostic tools that I may use to try to narrow down the problem?

I have two other minor problems and I am windering whether one of them may be related. Upon boot YAST configures my printer but it does not work.
Only if I add another configuration will it then see the printer. Of course the whole saga is repeated next time I boot. Any suggestions?

Finally as a user everytime I try to activate something a little window pops up (sometimes at least four of them) with the message
"Could not find mime type application/octel-stream". It does not stop the application loading. If I log in as root it does not happen.

OK I shall now await lots of inspired advise.

Cheers

Hi

Here I am again with the same problem. Incidentally judging by the number of posts with people having problems with Suse 10 Novell have not done themselves any favours.

I am enclosing a copy of part of my dmesg file which appears to highlight the problem with both the sound and the printer.
Can somebody interprete this for me and advice on how I might resolve it. ACPI appears to be having trouble activating both
the sound card and printer.

Incidentally, upon boot if I enter YAST it indentifies my sound card as exactly that "Sound Card" with no number e.g."0". If I try to edit or delete it it throws me out of YAST. If I try to add another card I get an error message.

Any help would be appreciated.

lp0: ECP mode
lp0: ECP mode
lp0: ECP mode
SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=106 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=8 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=86
SFW2-INext-DROP-DEFLT IN=eth0 OUT= MAC= SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=224.0.0.251 LEN=106 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=255 ID=9 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=5353 DPT=5353 LEN=86
ACPI-0212: *** Warning: Device is not power manageable
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 10
PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54940 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:02.7 disabled
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54981 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:02.7 disabled
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54947 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:02.7 disabled
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54927 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:02.7 disabled
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 55027 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt for device 0000:00:02.7 disabled
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54964 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
pnp: Device 00:09 disabled.
pnp: Device 00:09 activated.
parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 0 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA]
parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 930C
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
lp0: ECP mode
pnp: Device 00:09 disabled.
pnp: Device 00:09 activated.
parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 0 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,EPP,ECP,DMA]
parport0: Printer, HEWLETT-PACKARD DESKJET 930C
lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
lp0: ECP mode
lp0: ECP mode
lp0: ECP mode
lp0: ECP mode
lp0: ECP mode
lp0: ECP mode
SFW2-OUT-ERROR IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=195.202.170.134 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=31798 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=29376 DPT=80 WINDOW=1728 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A000BFF1650CD3A9E)
SFW2-OUT-ERROR IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=195.202.170.134 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=31800 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=29376 DPT=80 WINDOW=1728 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A000BFF5850CD3A9E)
SFW2-OUT-ERROR IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=195.202.170.134 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=31802 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=29376 DPT=80 WINDOW=1728 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A000BFFDA50CD3A9E)
SFW2-OUT-ERROR IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=195.202.170.134 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=31804 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=29376 DPT=80 WINDOW=1728 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A000C00DE50CD3A9E)
SFW2-OUT-ERROR IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=195.202.170.134 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=31806 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=29376 DPT=80 WINDOW=1728 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A000C02E650CD3A9E)
SFW2-OUT-ERROR IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=195.202.170.134 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=31812 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=29376 DPT=80 WINDOW=1728 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A000C1F5650CD3A9E)
SFW2-OUT-ERROR IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.1.10 DST=195.202.170.134 LEN=52 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=31814 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=29376 DPT=80 WINDOW=1728 RES=0x00 ACK FIN URGP=0 OPT (0101080A000C3FD650CD3A9E)


grabro

I'm having problems with sound too. It seems that if I use SKype and then try to use another application that uses Audio it can't access the sound device. Very annoying, Novell should be ashamed of themselves.

Some applications that use sound lock others out while they're running. I'm not sure that's so bad. Since an application can monopolize sound, that means that it may have to release that control upon exit. Is Skype running in the background? Ctrl-Esc will bring up a process list you can check. Perhaps it and not SuSE are your problem.

Hi

Additional info after reading up on the problem. It seems there should be at least one dsp file in /dev after the sound card is initiated but I don't any any at all. What is annoying is that according to the OS my sound card SIS 7012 is loaded using snd_intel8x0 driver and yet
there is no sound except from the cdrom.

grabro

Your sound card works because the CD cables internally to a sound card input. The Linux default is to install with most sound ports muted. One would think that alsamixer or kmix would both show the problem and allow you to configure to turn off muting. Your error messages on the other would not result from muted inputs. With Linux, there's always an answer -- finding it can be the problem.

I checked and do have a /dev/dsp which is read write to owner (me) and group audio. Permissions are frequently the source of things that don't work. Are you a member of group audio?

Hi

Another update for you all.

A few days ago I had sound on everything and I throught I had cracked it although I didn't know what I had done. Anyway its gone again athough there is some improvement.

1. If I run alsaconf at the end it plays a test tune whch I can now hear.
2. Also with KDE sound enabled I hear all the beeps etc when you open windows etc.
3. If I access the Alsamixer and activate it kills all sound
4. Only the if the Kmixer is activated do I get the limited sound mentioned.
5. If I try to load other sound mixer-desks they abort stating there is no sound card.
6. I have Suse 9.2 installed on another drive and the sound is OK. I have copied the relevant parts of the two dmesg files
for each OS. As you can see Suse 9.2 sees the driver immediately and gets it right whereas Suse 10 has innumerable attempts
before loading it even though it is not working.

The crucial part appears to be the measured usecs seen by Suse 10. They are obviously much too high hence the repeated
attempts to get it right. It eventually loads even though it is still too high.

6. Does anyone know how one can force it to see a usecs measurement of approximately 49000?

[BDMESG Suse 9.2B]
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> GSI 10 (level,low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 49904 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000

DMESG Suse 10.0
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> GSI 10 (level,low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54937 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7 disabled

ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> GSI 10 (level,low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54990 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7 disabled

ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> GSI 10 (level,low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54927 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000
ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7 disabled

ACPI: PCI interrupt 0000:00:02.7[C] -> GSI 10 (level,low) -> IRQ 10
intel8x0_measure_ac97_clock: measured 54823 usecs
intel8x0: clocking to 48000