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Old 04-13-2021, 09:38 AM   #1
drumz
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ntp: pool and nopeer in ntp.conf (-current)


I installed -current (Fri Apr 9 20:21:07 UTC 2021) last Friday (fresh install) and added these lines to the default /etc/ntp.conf:

Code:
server 192.168.1.192 prefer
pool 0.us.pool.ntp.org
pool 1.us.pool.ntp.org
Note we have a local NTP server on our local network, but then I also added pool servers as a kind of backup in case the local server goes down.

After starting up ntpd and letting it run for a while, I see this endlessly in /var/log/ntp:

Code:
12 Apr 15:27:14 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 159.203.82.102
12 Apr 15:28:14 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 107.172.97.205
12 Apr 15:28:21 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 194.0.5.123
12 Apr 15:29:18 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 162.159.200.123
12 Apr 15:29:27 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 103.151.145.7
12 Apr 15:30:25 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 172.86.181.76
12 Apr 15:30:34 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 138.236.128.36
12 Apr 15:31:31 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 104.171.113.34
12 Apr 15:31:40 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 50.205.57.38
12 Apr 15:32:35 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 137.190.2.4
12 Apr 15:32:44 ntpd[1648]: Soliciting pool server 69.89.207.99
And further info:

Code:
# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
*192.168.1.192   10.223.0.8       5 u   11   64  377    0.136   +0.202   2.278
 0.us.pool.ntp.o .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
 1.us.pool.ntp.o .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
After some internet searching I found the cause of the repeated "Soliciting pool server" messages is the presence of "nopeer" in my restrict line in ntp.conf. See:

https://github.com/geerlingguy/ansib...-ntp/issues/85
https://github.com/geerlingguy/ansible-role-ntp/pull/84
https://bugs.ntp.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2657
https://unix.stackexchange.com/quest...xx-xxx-xxx-xxx

And here is what the ntp.conf man page has to say:
Code:
    nopeer Deny  unauthenticated  packets which would result in mobilizing a new
           association.  This includes broadcast and  symmetric  active  packets
           when  a configured association does not exist.  It also includes pool
           associations, so if you want to use servers from a pool directive and
           also want to use nopeer by default, you'll want a restrict source ...
           line as well that does not include the nopeer directive.
So I simply added:
Code:
restrict source limited kod nomodify notrap noquery
restrict -6 source limited kod nomodify notrap noquery
To my ntp.conf. Here is my complete /etc/ntp.conf for reference:

Code:
# Sample /etc/ntp.conf:  Configuration file for ntpd.

#
# Undisciplined Local Clock. This is a fake driver intended for backup
# and when no outside source of synchronized time is available. The
# default stratum is usually 3, but in this case we elect to use stratum
# 0. Since the server line does not have the prefer keyword, this driver
# is never used for synchronization, unless no other other
# synchronization source is available. In case the local host is
# controlled by some external source, such as an external oscillator or
# another protocol, the prefer keyword would cause the local host to
# disregard all other synchronization sources, unless the kernel
# modifications are in use and declare an unsynchronized condition.
#
#server 127.127.1.0     # local clock
#fudge  127.127.1.0 stratum 10

#
# NTP server (list one or more) to synchronize with:
#server 0.pool.ntp.org iburst
#server 1.pool.ntp.org iburst
#server 2.pool.ntp.org iburst
#server 3.pool.ntp.org iburst
server 192.168.1.192 prefer
pool 0.us.pool.ntp.org
pool 1.us.pool.ntp.org

#
# Full path of a directory where statistics files should be created
#
statsdir /var/lib/ntp/stats

#
# Location of an alternate log file to be used instead of the default system syslog(3) facility
#
logfile /var/log/ntp

#
# Drift file.  Put this in a directory which the daemon can write to.
# No symbolic links allowed, either, since the daemon updates the file
# by creating a temporary in the same directory and then rename()'ing
# it to the file.
#
driftfile /var/lib/ntp/drift

#
# Location of PID file
#
pidfile /var/run/ntpd.pid

#
# Uncomment to use a multicast NTP server on the local subnet:
#multicastclient 224.0.1.1              # listen on default 224.0.1.1
# Set an optional compensation for broadcast packet delay:
#broadcastdelay 0.008

#
# Keys file.  If you want to diddle your server at run time, make a
# keys file (mode 640 owned by root:ntp) and define the key number to
# be used for making requests.
# PLEASE DO NOT USE THE DEFAULT VALUES HERE. Pick your own, or remote
# systems might be able to reset your clock at will.
#
#keysdir        /etc
#keys           /etc/ntp.keys
#trustedkey     65535
#requestkey     65535
#controlkey     65535

#
# Don't serve time or stats to anyone else by default (more secure)
restrict default limited kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery
restrict -6 default limited kod nomodify notrap nopeer noquery
restrict source limited kod nomodify notrap noquery
restrict -6 source limited kod nomodify notrap noquery

#
# Use these lines instead if you do want to serve time and stats to
# other machines on the network:
#restrict default limited kod nomodify notrap nopeer
#restrict -6 default limited kod nomodify notrap nopeer

#
# Trust ourselves.  :-)
restrict 127.0.0.1
restrict ::1
Now when starting ntpd I have a few "Soliciting pool server" messages, but then they stop (they go for less than 1 minute, and now after ntpd being up for over 12 hours there are no new messages in the logs).

Furthermore, I now have this from "ntpq -p":
Code:
# ntpq -p
     remote           refid      st t when poll reach   delay   offset  jitter
==============================================================================
*192.168.1.192   10.223.0.8       5 u   72 1024  377    0.256   -0.845   1.835
 0.us.pool.ntp.o .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
 1.us.pool.ntp.o .POOL.          16 p    -   64    0    0.000   +0.000   0.000
+buf.frangipani. 209.51.161.238   2 u  273 1024  377   70.595  +11.283   0.960
+any.time.nl     216.218.254.202  2 u  858 1024  337   27.963  +12.047   2.362
+ac-ntp0.net.cmu 128.237.148.140  2 u  189 1024  377   83.728  +12.470   2.043
+rain.bz         .PPS.            1 u  171 1024  377   62.423   +7.414   1.342
+linode1.ernest- 198.72.72.10     3 u  389 1024  377   67.088   +2.838   4.477
+ntp1.wiktel.com .PPS.            1 u   17 1024  377   72.491  +14.773   3.929
+pool-71-168-219 216.239.35.0     2 u  620 1024  377   75.745  +15.078   1.360
+108.61.73.243   209.51.161.238   2 u  167 1024  377   71.452  +11.775   3.502
+23.157.160.168  209.51.161.238   2 u  400 1024  377   67.018  +12.803   2.087
+50-205-244-112- 50.205.244.27    2 u  334 1024  377   64.412   +9.239   1.717
+time.cloudflare 10.72.8.8        3 u  294 1024  377   62.264  +17.625   2.604
+b1-66er.matrix. 129.6.15.30      2 u  447 1024  367   74.696  +13.364   2.108
+ntp.xtom.com    204.123.2.72     2 u  428 1024  377   25.001  +11.803   1.973
+44.190.40.123   216.218.254.202  2 u  460 1024  377   25.530  +10.815   2.528
+dev1.sjelab.net 10.252.0.245     2 u  403 1024  377   25.660  +14.126   1.204
+c-68-54-100-49. 128.10.252.6     2 u  587 1024  377   86.784   +4.900   3.302
+h69-130-244-141 64.250.105.237   3 u  323 1024  377   62.259  +16.595   3.760
+198.255.68.106  164.67.62.194    2 u  137 1024  377   44.574   -2.824   2.327
My question for those more familiar with ntp:

1) Should I have been worried about all those log entries? I think so, because I think it indicates my computer was spamming the pool servers (not being nice).

2) Are those added lines ("restrict source limited kod nomodify notrap noquery") "safe"?

3) And request for -current: Should those 2 added lines also be included in Slackware's default /etc/ntp.conf, perhaps commented out and with a comment explaining they should be used if using "pool" servers? Something like: "Additionally use these lines if using the "pool" command; see the "nopeer" entry in the ntp.conf man page."
 
Old 04-13-2021, 01:15 PM   #2
drumz
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This line:

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restrict -6 source limited kod nomodify notrap noquery
was causing the following errors in /var/log/syslog:

Code:
Apr 13 10:35:37 Thelio-PC ntpd[2019]: line 75 column 12 syntax error, unexpected T_Source, expecting T_String
Apr 13 10:35:37 Thelio-PC ntpd[2019]: syntax error in /etc/ntp.conf line 75, column 12
So I commented it out. (We don't have IPv6 enabled on our network, so I don't think I need that line anyway.)
 
Old 04-13-2021, 03:47 PM   #3
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In my case replacing ...
Code:
restrict -6 source limited kod nomodify notrap noquery
With ...
Code:
restrict -6 limited kod nomodify notrap noquery
Removed the error ... Hth , JimL
 
  


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