Hi all,

Is anybody else having this problem? I have had SeaMonkey just quit on it's own while I am surfing. Does anyone have any idea as to why that is
happening and if there is a cure? It is pretty annoying when you have three or
four tabs open and all of a sudden you are looking at the desktop instead of the site you were surfing.

Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated!

Check X logs, system logs
(post relevant part)
File a bug report.

Try upgrading or downgrading seamonkey

Thanks Amani, I appreciate your help, I am new to linux so I was unable to check
the logs etc as you suggested. I am running SeaMonkey 1.11 and did download version
1.14 but I don't think Puppy installed it. I am running Puppy from a USB drive, before
that I ran it from a CD and it worked fine from there, I don't see how that could make
the difference.

I'll keep my fingers crossed and maybe somebody will come up with a fix :-)

Seamonkey doesn't do that here, but I'm running Puppy from a full install to HD.

A few more details about your system might be nice, like how much RAM you have and how you have Puppy set up. Offhand, it sounds like you're running into a resource limitation of some sort.

A couple of notes on Seamonkey, BTW: Puppy comes with 1.11, but the current stable version is 1.14. If you tell Seamonkey to check for updates, it can download and install the new version for you.

There can be confusion if you go to the Mozilla Add-ons site to install extensions. An assortment of Seamonkey add-ons fail to install, with an error message about an install script not being present. The problem is that there are two flavors of SM extensions. One flavor is for older 1.X versions of SM (and also work in the Mozilla Suite and Netscape 7.X). The others are built for the in-development Seamonkey 2.0 release (currently at Alpha 3, and works fine in Puppy). SM 2.0 incorporates the extension management code used in Firefox and Thunderbird, and extensions built for that environment have a different format.
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Dennis

Hi Dennis,

Thanks for your response! I did download 1.14 but so far
I have been unable to install it. Sea Monkey did not give me that option.
I have noticed Sea Monkey stumbles and sometimes quits when gxine pops
up uninvited. I am running Puppy on a 4 GB USB drive and it is showing about 800MB of memory. The Laptop I use has 2GB memory.

Thanks again Dennis, your help is very much appreciated by this newbee:-)

Okay, shecking a little, memory failed me. Seamoneky can be told to check for updates weekly or monthly in Edit/Preferences, and will download it to where you specify. From that point, installation is manual. I put the update in /root/my-applications.

It installs by default to /usr/local/seamonkey, with a link the the executable in /usr/bin. A little fiddling is required, as Puppy puts the default version in something like /usr/local/seamonkey_1.1.1, and the menu entries still point to the old version. I did manual adjustment and removed the Seamonkey_1.1.1 directory.

You can also get the Seamonkey 2.0a3 version for Linux, and it runs fine. The biggest difference under the hood is the new extension manager code.

I haven't had SM quit when gxine pops up, because I haven't tried to use it to view video (which is my guess as to why gxine is invoking.)

I'm curious about the memory it is showing. Puppy should see all 2GB of RAM on the laptop. Are you sure the 800MB you see is RAM, or might it be available space in the file system?

One thing you might try is invoking SM from an rxvt terminal windom. Open rxvt, type seamonkey, and hit enter. SM should invoke. If it crashes, you may see useful debug info in the rxvt window.

You might also want to sign up and post your question at the Puppy Community Forums, at http://puppylinux.org/community. There's a large and helpful community there.
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Dennis

hi all,
I have the same problem, I'm running puppy 4.1.2 ( HD install)on an old laptop with 128 mb ram, 2gb hd and 366 pentium II processor.
I heard the ram could be an issue, how can I fix that without upgrading the ram?
thanks in advance

You have an HD install? How big a swap file do you have?

Linux is a virtual memory system, and will consider memory to be RAM plus the size of the swap file. It divides RAM in pages, and keeps track of what is in which page. When more physical RAM is needed for soemthing than is free, it will swap RAM pages that weren't recently used to the swap file to make room. If something tries to access a page that was swapped out, a "page fault" is generated and the page is swapped back in. This happens transparently to you and your applications.

You may need a bigger swap file, or to create one if you don't have one.

Are you also having the problem while trying to watch streaming video, with Gxine being called to do it? There have been discussions of thet on the Puppy forums, and you might wish to check there.
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Dennis

Hi Dennis, thank you for your answer.
I was wrong about the hd installation, I boot from cd, than a file called pup_412.sfs is loaded from hd.
with streaming videos no problem.
I have this issue when I try to open emails with big screen shots, 8mb for example.
I just installed seamonkey 1.1.15, but it's still quitting.
If I use the hardware monitor I see the free ram decreasing until SM quits.

Hi,

Thank you for your reply, I am still having the same problem,and it happens mainly when I have 3 or 4 tabs open. I am not aware that I activate the INS key so I really don't think that is the problem here. I have downloaded the latest version of SM, but being a newbie, I don't know how to install it. If you could give me the command line for doing that I would really appreciate it.
Thanks again for your suggestion,

Regards,
Andy

This happened to me today. I'm running 4.0 from the live CD on an old HP ze4560 laptop (512MB ram). I think SM might get stressed when running lots of windows/tabs. I had a total of 8 tabs open on both desktops plus was carrying on 3 IM chats in Pidgin. Fine for a while then SM stopped on both desktops. (The IM session remained.)

I just restarted and was a bit less enthusiastic with my surfing -- left one desktop for browsing and the other for local word -- and all has gone well.

Hope this helps.

Hi Spongedaddy,

Thank you for that information. I was using SM with Puppy 4.1.2, but since upgrading to the latest version I have not had the problem. I'm inclined to think it was more of a Puppy problem than SM.
Thanks again for your feedback!

I'm running Puppy 4.2 Retro from Live-CD, and Seamonkey is also shutting down on me without warning. And without any [INSERT] key input (I removed that key].

This happens when I'm online doing nothing more than entering text, as I am now, without any other windows open, so it can't be that RAM or CPU are overtaxed. However, the event is quite sporadic, so perhaps your 'problem solved" report is premature.

It would be interesting to try an upgrade of Seamonkey, but, as indicated by some previous posters, upgrading Puppy apps without a working .pet package is non-trivial (and a major incentive for dumping Puppy Linux altogether). Waiting/searching for a working PET is a constant PIA, and a major security issue.