Recently, I've employed "Puppy" because I simply couldn't get any LM distro to operate correctly from a pendrive. I understand that's because "puppy' operates from the RAM and thus eliminates all the lag/freezing. OK, fair enough!! Now, that brings up a realtive question. I can go get a LM distro pendrive of my choice from the "Linux store". So, what do they do different to their pendrive O.S.'s that I cannot seem to apply to my pendrive? Surely, the LMstore distros cannot have the issues I've had. So, what "could" I do to configure a D/l to act properly ... as a LM store pendrive would/should?

Not sure I understand what your Mint is doing that a Mint usb from linux store doesnt do?

RE: linus72

Yes, well I thought I'd get into this discussion, so I'll "do my best" to explain and just hope you understand what I'm inquiring about. In the past few years, I've D/l'ed /installed various LM distros (LM 17-18-19) to a pendrive, trying both a "live" and complete install. In doing so, I always incur severe lagging/freezing and "persistence" issues. I was informed this was due to the fact that LM does NOT load directly to the RAM. I was then directed to "Puppy" Linux. Reason being: Puppy loads directly into the RAM and operates from there, thus eliminating the lagging/freezing. So, what I'm inquiring #1. What is done to the LM distros from LM store that they do not have lagging/freezing and "persistence" issues? and...#2. Is there a way I could "install/configure" a D/l'ed LM distro that would run 'properly"...A pendrive distro from the LM store could not have the lagging/freezing and persistence issues that I've experienced via D/l'ed distro. Now, I'm running Puppy from a pendrive and, so far, it operates the way one would expect a O'S. to operate...what I mean is that I'm not having the lagging/freezing issues. What I'd like to do, if possible, is to be able to "configure" a D/l'ed LM distro that would operate in the same manner a LM store distro pendrive would. Even I as I look over this reply I can see that it may, still, be a bit confusing. But, I not sure how I'd explain it any other way? So, I'll try this as a 'summary"(?) The D/l 'ed versions of LM that I've tried, all experience severe lagging/freezing and persistence issues....and I'd like to eliminate those and have the D/l'ed distros run in the same manner that a LM store pendrive would. I hope I've given you all the info you need to understand what I'm wanting to accomplish??? If not, well, reply again and ask specific questions and hopefully, then we can "get-on-the-same-page". Appreciate your response.

There are a few distro's that have a grub or boot time option to load to ram. They call it more than a few names and these boot options may not be on front of web page at distro. Cheat sheets and other sources are use. I forget what the names are anymore. TORAM is one I remember.
A to ram option is a great way to buypass all or most of the usb traffic. Not much faster way to run a distro that from a ramdisk.


Anways, it's kind of hard to compare puppy to mint on a stick. There are a number of differences going on. I guess one might seek out if a debian/ubuntu/mint way exists to run from memory at boot time option. You may end up with a memory limit.

1 members found this post helpful.

apparently it's a casper option (but i don't know what casper is; a ubuntu thing? that would mean it's available on mint, too).

btw, are kernel parameters case-independent?

Just by following the instructions here should sort you.

https://askubuntu.com/questions/8299...emove-the-disk

RE: fatmac jefro ondoho

Wanna THANK YOU all for your replies. FINALLY, someone(s) that actually know something about Linux distro's. You wouldn't believe the flack I've gotten over at "puppylinux" forum of this site. OK, first; fatmac TNX for the link...I intend to try it out soon! Is that all there is too it? Seems so simple but then, that's usually the way Linux is...it may be hell finding the "answer", but once you do, it's usually very simple to correct/fix.
jefro after reading the link fatmac provided, I believe your correct. I was never trying to "compare" the two O.S's, but just trying to understand.

ondoho: Sorry, I can't answer if it's a casper thing/issue. Also, I'm not sure what you mean by "case independent".

Fellas, thanx for the help. I'll implement the toram, then report back on the progress. Should it work, then I've got a few a-ho's over at the puppylinux forum that's gonna get their butts handed to 'em. so, check back here in a few days and see what I've got to report.

APPRECIATED!!!

if booting from a cd or usb hit TAB button at boot screen and add to the append line "toram=filesystem.squashfs" or "toram" or edit syslinux/isolinux .cfg and add to one of your boot entries.
Are you running a persistent Mint usb?

the correct code is simply "toram" add "cdrom-detect/try-usb=true noprompt noeject" and it wont ask you to remove cd when rebooting/shutdown.

RE: linus72

I am booting from a pendrive. Now, correct me if I'm wrong. When I try LinuxMint 19.1, I should implement the command you suggested? Doing so would load the O.S. to RAM? If that is correct, then it should "run" as if it were a "desktop" version? Right now, I've been giving "puppylinux" a go and, as I learn it, am beginning to appreciate it. Puppy, as you know, loads to RAM, thus it is quite fast, and seems to work as a regular 'desktop" version. Now, I'd like to get that same experience from a D/l'ed LM distro. Oh, ahmm...I'm not the one with the "it wont ask you to remove cd when rebooting/shutdown." problem. I hope the person responsible for that statement is perusing this post. Ah..yes..persistence..that is another isuue I had w/ LM distros from a pendrive. Alright, sometime this weekend, I'll be trying out your suggestions. As I'm not at all displeased w/ puppy, I still am more familiar with and, I guess, partial to LM O.S's. THANX!!!


another day...another dollar...in debt

69rixter I would suggest AntiX live usb for you vs Puppy, Mint is OK but as far as booting options, remastering, persistence, not many can beat AntiX and it's much smaller than Mint/Ubuntu. AntiX is Debian based.
As far as what you said, when I booted Mint to ram off USB I didn't notice much difference in "toram" mode...
However my 16GB usb is from Staples lol so it's not a name brand usb like Kingston etc.

Hey linus72:

Please, I mean no disrespect,but I've done enough distro hopping as of late. Right now, for the exception of a few "things" that I need to learn, puppy seems to be a distro I can live with. I'm not familiar w/ AntiX, but hey, I wasn't w/ puppy either. I'm not so convinced that the pendrive, off-brand or not, is the culprit. I do understand that there could be...conceivably, a difference between a 2.0 and a 3.0 (speed) drive, but even that is so slight. The puppy I'm running now "runs" quite fast/fast enough for me. And, I may be a bit premature, but I D/l'ed LM 19.1 XFCE, once again, but did something different. I used Rufus to create the 'bootable" pendrive and selected dd instead of .iso. I've only tried it once, so I reserve any comments about it's operation. However, I will say that, so far (that's just once)I did not experience any severe lag(???). Now, that said, I was given some very good (IMO) instructions on how to set-up LM to make it run as fast as I would expect and it's really a simple operation. Let's see that, if future bootups of LM 19.1, it runs as smoothly as it did the first time, or whether I'll have to employ the suggestion fatmac& linus72 provided. As for puppy, well, nothing wrong with learning about it, so I'll just leave it on my 4Gb pendrive and run LM 19.1 from an 8Gb pendrive and see how each 'operates" now. Would you care to give a shot at trying to help w/ either LM 19.1X or puppy (xenial 7.5)? If so, please, re-read my thread starter and subsequent posts.

TNX linus72

another day...another dollar...in debt

1 members found this post helpful.

In short: directory casper is the directory where Ubuntus in live mode running are storing the system plus all their changes made during the runtime of the operating system. Via some boot options one can choose e.g. to save only on exit - which means: when shutting down or rebooting. I don't know about the true Ubuntus but BionicDog which is a small Puppy-like Operating System based on Ubuntu Bionic gives option to choose at reboot/shutdown either to save or not to save. So if anything was messed up one can reboot without changes being saved.

I build my own Puppy Linux Systems and using them regularly (next to come: LazY Puppy Art Studio 64 Preview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHPwUWmNuTQ), but I have also BionicDog 32bit version running, which is a pretty good Operating System. Used it to make the mix-down of a 24-multi-track-recording recorded in Ardour 5 under Win10 and mixed down using Ardour 5 in BionicDog (The Helix Research Kitchen Live Video on my Youtube Channel).

Btw.: I run all my Puppies in RAM only and I prefer to run as root generally!

1 members found this post helpful.

RE: EVERYONE

I'm pretty sure I've conquered the lagging/freezing issues. Should you wish to know how, just ask. But let's solve the "persistence" issue, right now. I came across this...https://www.linuxuprising.com/2019/03/create-persistent-storage-live-usb-with.html. I read through it and, to me, it's sounds like what I'm seeking. I would like a few opinions about it, before I go an implement the procedure.Wish to THANK all who offered assistance w/ the lagging issue. RE: RSH Not trying to be a smartass, but aren't all the "puppylinux" O.S.'s run out of the RAM? And, "root" is taking a bit of getting used to, but WTH, never hurts to learn.

TNX ALL

69rixter please try my debian stable/slax build with persistence and remastering ability, frugal install to hdd, takes up about 700mb space good for all kinds of things, run fresh, toram, and persistent.
try the RC2
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...sb-4175650800/

off hard drive it boots fast and with toram executes fast but its fast anyway off hdd
Additionally just for testing I could build you a testing distro of debian stable or testing with whatever desktop and programs you want just like above.