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Old 12-07-2015, 02:09 PM   #1
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Red face Dual Boot Problems with XP - PUPPY


I am now trying to config dual boot with XP/Puppy Tahr.
I have two partitions C D [sda1 sda5 on Linux.
I have installed puppy on the D section in windows after deleting a old version Precise.
This later version tahr is ISO on D, I HAVE INSTALLED ON IT.
On start up now mentions the old version to start Linux first but does not boot with it. I want the new version name on.
Windows boots up ok when selected.
When Linux is selected no boot up just a window pops up saying cant find the partition.
No GRUB4DOS now this was on the Precise I deleted when formatting of D drive.
My question now being how do I config the dual boot.
I have CR ROM of Puppy Tahr and flash drive with slacko.
I must have done something terribly wrong.
 
Old 12-07-2015, 09:48 PM   #2
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I have installed puppy on the D section in windows after deleting a old version Precise.
Are you saying you installed puppy from windows? If so what steps did you take to install puppy from windows? Post what is displayed when you highlight linux and press e.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 11:16 AM   #3
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I have the dual boot screen when I boot up.
If I select windows this works and boots up ok.
Now this next part is when things go wrong.
I have installed Puppy 6.02 slacko ISO on 4 with Windows, after formatting 4 drive, and getting shot of Puppy Precise.
When I press E for the Linux OP [this says Puppy Precise on screen]
this is my former Linux. This does not load, hard disc does a clunk then displays cant find the partition.
Windows on C partition, Linux on 4. LET ME KNOW IF THERE IS ANYTHING MORE TO TELL YOU.
GRUB4 file req. correct edit with the slacko info? somehow.
Thank you colorpurple21859.
 
Old 12-08-2015, 02:46 PM   #4
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I don't understand what you are doing or how you are trying to do it so maybe the best thing to do is to google "bootinfoscript" while booted to the Puppy installation medium, download and run the script and post the output here. It is a file called results.txt and will provide a lot of details which should help someone to help you.

The method I have always used which works to reinstall Grub Legacy from a CD/DVD is to boot it and open a terminal and enter each of the lines below consecutively, hit the enter key after typing each line:

Quote:
grub
You should then see the grub prompt which looks like this:

Quote:
grub>
In your specific case with Puppy installed (hopefully) to sda1:

Quote:
root hd0,0
setup hdo
quit
Of course if you can't boot the DVD??

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Old 12-09-2015, 02:18 PM   #5
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Dual Boot Probs

Thank you yancek/colorpurple.
What I am trying to do is this.
Dual boot Windows XP and Puppy slacko or Tahr on my system.
Windows XP is on C:// DRIVE
The Linux Distro on D:// DRIVE [quoting Windows terms) On Linux sda1 and sda5.
XP boots ok when selected. Select the Linux Puppy and up comes error can't find partition.
It worked ok until I formatted the 4 drive to delete Puppy Precise.
This was because Puppy Precise can't work on my TP-LINK WDN3200.
I cant get any Puppy to boot and no internet of course.
What would be the file path to insert for Puppy on 4 [sda5].
The most important thing being how do I get slacko/or/tahr on 4 THIS MUST BE THE WRONG THING I HAVE DONE.
PS I am doing this reply thread on another computer.
Thought! would there be a way to start from the beginning.
In the BIOS set up first boot IS CDROM AND ON COMES THE DUAL BOOT SCREEN, so I can't run a CD WITH A DISTRO ON IT.
Have a think and get back to me. Thanks.

Last edited by pianoforte361; 12-09-2015 at 02:21 PM. Reason: Not quite right spelling.
 
Old 12-09-2015, 02:49 PM   #6
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The booting files for puppy are most likley in /boot /tahr or /slacko. At the grub screen highlight the puppy entry hit e to edit and change the kernel line to one of the following
Code:
kernel /boot/vmlinuz
Code:
kernel /tahr/vmlinuz
or
Code:
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz
change the initrd line also, depending on if your trying to boot tahr or slacko. If booting from sda5 the root line will be
Code:
root (hd0,4)
edit: just done a quick install of puppy tahr and it may be
Code:
kernel /tahr6.0.2frugal/vmlinuz  
  initrd /tahr6.0.2frugal/initrd.gz

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Old 12-10-2015, 05:30 AM   #7
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Haven't used grub4dos in or grub legacy in a while, so been playing around with it. To find what the dirctory that puppy boot file may be in at the grub prompt hit c to go to grub command line then
Code:
kernel (hd0,4)\
then hit the tab key for a list of folders on the partition.
 
Old 12-11-2015, 02:58 PM   #8
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colorpurple21859.
Thank you for you good advice you sent me and for al the time and effort etc.
However I have tried all the codes you suggested.

LINE 1. uuid52443E88443E6EBB

LINE 2. kernel /slacko/vmlinuz this gives error 15 file not found.

LINE 3. initrd /slacko6.0.3frugal/initrd.gz this gives error 11 unrecognized string.

I don't know where root (hd0,4) goes. If I do included this, error 22 no such partition.

I have the slacko ISO DRAGGED AND DROPPED INTO D:// DRIVE in windows.

I don't know what now to do at all.

When I try the boot B key no such partition appears after to drive makes a noise. Going back to the grub boot up page all the earlier settings appear puppy precise 5.7.0 above the WINDOWS ENTRY, and the uuid long number.
Thanks colorpurple. What do you suggest?
 
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I have the slacko ISO DRAGGED AND DROPPED INTO D:// DRIVE in windows.
You earlier indicated you had "installed" Puppy Tahr on sda5 and then indicate you had the iso for Puppy Tahr on sda5. Now you indicate above that you copied the slacko iso to that partiton. You won't be able to boot either that way so did you actually use a CD or flash drive to install either to sda5. Some Linux distributions can be booted from an iso file but only with Grub2 which you do not have.

Since you can boot xp, does that mean you are using the windows boot loader or are you using Grub4Dos? You also mention pressing E or B when booting. That's not Grub, is it Grub4Dos? Have you been able to boot either a CD or flash drive?
 
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Old 12-11-2015, 06:11 PM   #10
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I don't know where root (hd0,4) goes. If I do included this, error 22 no such partition.
This would indicate that sda5 doesn't exist as grub legacy counts from 0 for both disks and partitions.
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I have the slacko ISO DRAGGED AND DROPPED INTO D:// DRIVE in windows
you can't just drag an iso to a partition and boot it with grub legacy. However, you can do the following:
Create slacko folder on D drive.
With 7-zip extract vmlinuz, initrd.gz and the sfs file from the slacko iso and put them in the slacko directory on D drive.
Then edit your grub lines to look like this:
Code:
uuid 52443E88443E6EBB
kernel /slacko/vmlinuz   psubdir=slacko pmedia=atahd 
initrd /slacko/initrd.gz
If it works then you will need to find and edit menu.lst (that is a small L) so ou want have to edit grub everytime. menu.lst will open with notepad or wordpad.
This is assuming that 'uuid 52443E88443E6EBB' is the D drive.

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Old 12-14-2015, 10:33 AM   #11
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Thank you [yancek / colorpurple21859.
Yes I have GRUB4Dos.
No I can't boot from either flash or CD. What I wanted to do at the start was to only change kernel from puppy 5.7 to a later one.
When computer starts the dual boot screen appears, if I select windows it works.
By selecting the Linux OS no joy {config. wrong)? this is what I am working on with your helps.


colorpurple21859.
I have tried your suggestions. Sorry to report, same fail.
A couple of things to point out are, the INITRD.GZ FILE SAYS IT IS AN ADOBE PDF.
Is this right? secondly this appears Device part should lead to the file name.
How would I know that the uuid number is right?
The kernel line looks ok but the initrd.gz line stops me getting any further.
Thank you again.
 
Old 12-14-2015, 12:43 PM   #12
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A couple of things to point out are, the INITRD.GZ FILE SAYS IT IS AN ADOBE PDF.
Is this right?
It may be a naming problem, read the Warning to MS Windows users from here.
http://www.puppylinux.com/install.htm from what I can tell from it the vmlinuz and initrd.gz is suppose to be all small letters and the sfs files are small letters. The link refers to an earlier version of puppy but still applies to the version you are using. Also make sure you copy both sfs files to the slacko directory.

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How would I know that the uuid number is right?
you will get a not found or doesn't exist error when you boot if it is wrong.

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Old 12-16-2015, 01:55 PM   #13
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Hi there colorpurple21859.
Would it be a good idea to copy all the separate iso files into the the D drive folder I have made?
When I TAB the initrd line after an e edit I get file not found.
When I TAB the kernel line after an e edit I get unrecognized device string and or omitted the required device part which should lead to the file name.
This is where I am up to now.
Thank you.
 
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Would it be a good idea to copy all the separate iso files into the the D drive folder I have made?
Based on the information you have previously posted, it would be pointless. As you have been informed previously, simply copying an iso file to a partition is not going to allow you to be able to boot it. This was not possible with Grub Legacy and probably not with Grub4Dos. Never used Grub4Dos so I really don't know. You can boot an iso file directly from Grub2 but you do not have Grub2 installed and the operating system (Puppy) you are using would need to be bootable as an iso and I doubt it is. Maybe.

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When I TAB the initrd line after an e edit I get file not found
If all you have is an iso file on the partition that would account for the file not found. In your initial post, you indicate you "deleted an old version or precise". What exactly does that mean? You also indicate you formatted the partition. That means all the files formerly there are gone for all proactical intent. Did you also delete the partition.

If you were able to post more specific information from the bootinfoscript, it would be helpful. Since you say you cannot boot a CD or a flash drive I don't know how you could get the info?
 
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Old 12-16-2015, 08:37 PM   #15
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did you use 7-zip to extract all the files from the iso to the slacko directory that was created?
 
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