Originally Posted by tnut

I understood you change distro already

Originally Posted by altPOCA

But I'm tired already, waiting for answers from you like waiting for answers from my crush. Except there is no "Seen", I'm not even know your did see my questions or not. My new mails to the mailing lists remain unanswered. I think I have got it enough. We do not belong to each other. Divorce! I will ignore one man project like yours. That's the lesson I learned. Bye.

Originally Posted by ondoho

I'm so annoyed by your behaviour.

I have been following this thread, and I resisted reacting - until now.

Here is a person who is maintaining a Linux distro without any commercial interest, for free, almost single-handedly - and you moan and whine and opine about

• not getting quick enough answers on the mailing list
• how the distro should be "better", or does not cater to your every whim
• communication channels not being on the social media service of your choice

tnut has grandeur and does not react to your whiny BS - but I do.

Shame on you, and good riddance.

Originally Posted by tnut

"most of them are bug reports)". Let's discuss about each:

- "Time And Data Manager failed to start": No history about this Specific installation

It's a stream of emails. A batch of them, indeed. If you follow the emails, you should already know this information. This showed you just doesn't care about what I wrote nor my problems. Let me repeat this information again to you: The latest MATE ISO of NuTyX (still being the latest now).

- "Engrampa can't extract tar.gz archive": Fixed, thanks a lot for the feedback

This is too obvious and too easy. I can't imagine any reasons for you to not fix it.

- "Include the nano editor by default": Why not, fixed

Same as above.

- "Chrome is outdated": Indeed, as many other packages. Have a look how many commit we did just in August, and we luckily 2 persons on it. https://github.com/NuTyX/packages-x86_64/commits/

This again showed you paid no attention to what I wrote. I suggest just remove Chrome altogether because NuTyX already has a very good version of Chromium. This is to cut off the maintenance burdens.

- "Editing of /boot/grub/grub.cfg resulted in unbootable system:" Not a bug, You need to read the documentation carefully about this. The only bug I know with grub is if we upgrade to the latest version, it's really not booting anymore if we specify some wallpaper...

No. This is really a bug. Let me tell you again: any attempts to edit grub.cfg (of course by hand, no grub-mkconfig here) will resulted in an unbootable system. It's an Legacy BIOS machine and the error printed on the screen is about some invalid signature issue. It's nonsense. I have no idea what this bug really is. The only way to recover is a reinstall or if you lucky you could restore the original grub.cfg generated during installation you backed up somewhere.

This is so far the most serious bug and a showstopper caused me to switch to altLinux. I have to dual boot with Windows. This bug blocked me from doing so and the fact is your OS doesn't shipped with os-prober, it doesn't detect other installed OS (regardless Windows or Linux) and add them to the grub's boot menu!

- "Can't display CJK characters": Will be fixed sometime not highest priority I guess.

This is stupid fontconfig and packaging mistake. If you replied my emails I will give you the answer I found after my research. The fact is you don't care so you don't know any later updates. A fresh installation of NuTyX doesn't ship with dejavu (yes, dejavu, the fonts always present all on Linux!) and liberation fonts. Even when they are installed the stupid fontconfig ignored them from being used. On other system, e.g: altLinux, there is no need to install WenQuanYi fonts and friends at all, only dejavu and liberation fonts do all of the job. The CJK characters rendered flawlessly and IMHO even more readable and beautiful than on Windows! BTW, there is also no packages for WenQuanYi fonts and friends on NuTyX. But it's not needed. Google's NOTO fonts could cover everything needed.

- "What concerned me most is there is no DHCP client. " Why would you need a dhcpcd client on a server... NuTyX is not made for beginners. It even guide you to setup a static address working networking. The reason I'm not including any dhcp client is in case you want to setup a (personalize) desktop you most probably going to install a graphical network configuration tool.

VirtualBox. I does use DHCP on VirtualBox. I use DHCP with all of my FreeBSD VMs on VirtualBox. Of course it's different on real VPS. What you said also proved you are not prepared the BASE ISO for server usage but desktop since you think the users will install a graphical environment anyway.

- "Why not create a discord channel": We do use one for only for development members. If you think telegram is so bad, Don't use any them. Telegram, Signal, Tweeter, Discord, they produce all the same result: Frustration, frustration and more frustration.

No. Telegram was banned from the place I work because of the pornography contents on it. I didn't say Discord is any better than Telegram. The mailing lists is too slow for us to interact. Discord is a much better mailing lists.

But if you agreed to answer my emails and not ignored me there is no need for a Discord channel! You know, on Facebook Messenger at least I know the one I talk with already "seen" my message, it's not the case with the mailing lists. Waiting and waiting for reply, don't know when your problem will be considered. It's terrible! You will feel like you are abandoned and ignored!

- "I'm still interested in NuTyX.": Nice to read that. You need to read a bit more the available material on the website. If you point out some inconsistency on the web pages let me know, I spend a lot of time in fixing the documentation.

Frankly speaking, I do not believe you did. Not wanted to hurt you but the document is not really good as you think. It's an incomplete note of using NuTyX indeed, more like a handbook than real document.

For example, where on the document tell you to install cards.devel to have a working development toolchain on NuTyX? I think none. I only know this when you told me so.

Another example is the note about not using grub-mkconfig. I found it via Google Search but not when surfing your site. You should consider improving the layout. Something like Arch Wiki maybe?

- "All of my concerns are about the usability of NuTyX for my own purpose": I use know NuTyX since 2007, many peoples are asking, why are you doing this distro ? I have no idea. I only know, I feel it's rock solid and very stable. Sure it has bugs, find an OS who doens't. Nevertheless if it would be buggy, slow, hangy what ever, do you really think I would been maintain this OS for a such a long time. Even if nobody use it. I really don't care. I know for sure I will never ever switch to anything else... It just do the job.

I have no problem with that. My problem is: please answer my emails!

Thierry

Originally Posted by tnut

"where on the document tell you to install cards.devel"
http://nutyx.org/en/?search=cards.devel

How could you know the search phrase to search? How could you somehow know about "cards.devel" to search for it from the beginning? You are the maintainer, of course you know but don't expect other people just come to this Linux to know. This information should be put on the faq.

"This is so far the most serious bug and a showstopper caused me to switch to altLinux"

As the only command of grub I use at setup is:
https://github.com/NuTyX/nutyx/blob/...nutyx.in#L1885

They are no other command of grub, means that the grub.cfg file is a (simple) edited file which you can change as you like. Thanks for that. I do it regularly.

I do a reinstall of NuTyX and I confirmed with you again any edits of grub.cfg will cause an unbootable system due to some invalid signature nonsense error.

"please answer my emails!"

They is nothing to answer as far I have read them tonight

Because you always think you are right and the mistake is from mine. You never think the problems is really in your side.

"VirtualBox. I does use DHCP on VirtualBox. I use DHCP with all of my FreeBSD VMs on VirtualBox."

Maybe it's a chance to start to learn how to set up static address configuration ... in VirtualBox If this is impossible for you, leave it, use AltLinux as you seems to be convince.

How ironically! You think wireless-tools and wpasupplicant should be included but a DHCP client shouldn't? Nonsense! You just can't admit your decision is awkward and nonsense. I know how to setup static IP but what is the need for this? FreeBSD is a server oriented OS but they still included a DHCP client. How does your BASE ISO serve as a server OS? It's always desktop oriented and for a desktop a DHCP client is definitely needed. Your BASE ISO is more like Debian text install than a server oriented OS as FreeBSD.

I still can't understand how on earth wireless-tools and wpasupplicant are needed for a server more than a DHCP client! This only show your decision is arbitrary and you have no basis to back it other than your own ego.

Nevertheless thank you for your interest in NuTyX.

No, now I lost all interest. Eat your own dog food. I'm better with altLinux.

Originally Posted by tnut

Quick answers:

- https://github.com/nutyx/nutyx
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