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Some basic experience of obtaining/deploying Mandriva 2006.
1. Obtaining the ISOs.
I have full Silver club membership; even so, trying to obtain anything by Bittorrent has proven to be a complete nightmare for me. I am currently running 2005LE+KDE3.4 [the special distro] as my main machine. I was able to source the CD isos by requesting and then using a Mandriva ftp mirror. When I tried to obtain the DVD iso the same way I got an odd error. Firstly, not all the Mandriva ftp servers held the DVD iso. Then, those that did displayed the file size as 4.x Gb. When trying to download with Firefox 1.0.7, however, the browser tells me the file is smaller than that. The download failed md5sum and in the end a friend had to download the file for me using Bittorrent. I have a 2Mb ADSL line too!
I have installed the 2006 DVD ISO on 2 machines with very similar results. I used the x86_64 version. The first machine is based on an AMD Athlon64 3200 [Venice] Chip with 2Gb RAM, nVidia 6600-based GPU, Creative Audigy sound on an Abit VP8 Motherboard. The second machine is based on a Tyan Thunder K8W motherboard with 2 x Opteron 250 CPUs, 4Gb RAM, XFX6800 Ultra GPU, Creative Audigy sound.
In both cases I have found 2006 to be buggy and difficult to use. Some really basic things do not work :-
1. Launching Mandriva Control Centre produces the splashscreen but nothing more - the launch program hangs.
2. The hardware detection for my Opteron system believed it was installing in a laptop. It loaded laptop HD Drivers that failed to shut down cleanly and resulted in unstable ReiserFS partitions than need recovery each reboot.
3. It is not possible to log off as one user and on as a different user. It is only possible [sometimes] to execute a clean shutdown. When trying to log off the machine starts to execute a shutdown and then hangs with a black screen, or a black screen with two thick, horizontal, white bars. Only exit is hardware reset switch and another ReiserFS Recovery.
4. Hardware detection managed to spot the SiliconImage SATA RAID Controller on the Thunder K8W Opteron board, but then tried to address 2 of the 4 connected hard discs as individual volumes, even when they have been RAID-1 mirrored in the RAID Controller's BIOS settings. [Even WinXP can figure this out!!!] I checked the SiliconImage web site and googled around and discovered plenty of documentation to indicate that appropriate Linux Drivers exist. I don't think they work properly with 2006 yet, however. I am thinking about trying 2005 just to see if this is a recent bodge by Mandriva.
5. I have noticed that the auto-detect system works well enough to spot an SMP motherboard, 2 processors and an nVidia chipset in the graphics card, as the appropriate kernel is loaded for these relatively common hardware configurations - that's nice, at least.
My general impression of 2006 is that light/casual users, or those with strictly limited [ie "usual"] hardware configs might find 2006 to be a pretty solid build right out of the box. In my case it has been anything but. I wanted to get my hands on a fully-support Mandriva environment with a late-generation KDE[ie 3.4.2], mySQL[ie 5.x], PHP5.x, and for it to be well sorted and stable. Once again, as always seems to be the case with the ".0" releases of a Mandrake product, they have fallen flat on their faces again. I found that 8.2, 9.2 and 10.1 were the versions to go for. Maybe 2006.1 or 2006.2 will offer an improvement. Not sure I'm willing to wait any more.
I am now in the process of downloading 3 different distros in order to have a try-out, then pick a favourite and go with it. I am intending to try Ubuntu 5.10, SUSE 10.0 and Fedora Core 4.
I have been a big fan [and financial supporter] of Mandrake/Mandriva since 7.1. However, I now feel that the company has seriously lost their way and don't seem to understand what their users want. They seem to throw money at odd Open Source projects and yet do not fix basic problems in their own distro. From what I can see, the late Release Candidates of 2006 were more reliable than the final code. Lots of late changes seem to have been introduced.
This is not a good way to keep a loyal user base together.
ytene. When downloading large isos use wget or other download managers e.g. kget, gwget, d4x instead of a web browser. This reduces the chance of your download getting corrupt. I also have a 2meg cable line and managed to download the powerpack dvd iso using bittorrent in about 2days. This is something that needs improvement, but it worked.
I have not experienced the other problems that you mentioned and this could be because of your hardware configuration.
While I don't usually recommend people to download torrents from unknown sources, it maybe a good idea to look around. People always used to make torrents of Suse (before they decided to give away isos), so why not Mandriva.
Originally posted by duffmckagan >I Got suse, can i install mandriva after that?
so that both of them dual boot?
This is really bad.
You should always perform a search before posting such things.
You can also use the Button just below the Topic Title saying search for similar threads.
This is a consistent problem with TigerLinux, he/she never does any searches before starting new threads or new posts. I have commented on this before but got a rude response.
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