Im haveing a problem with my sound, im 99% sure its with the drivers....

Ricapar · 05-02-2004, 09:17 AM

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By the way..... once you have selected and accepted the card driver, harddrake will save modifications for start up... what I did notice while using mandrake is that if you run harddrake, ti will always select the OTHER driver for your sound card... not the one you have configured at the time. If you are using alsa, it will choose OSS and viceversa.

I went into hardddrake and i swiched it to the other one, i rebooted, and there was still no sound.

But the funny thing was that the sound will work with both of the drivers it says, the OSS and ALSA. It will work as long as you swich it to the other one, swich it back, and logout, log back in....

Is there any place that will tell me the correct driver that wont give me these problems?

eantoranz · 05-02-2004, 03:18 PM

I really don't think the driver is the problem... perhaps your sistem is using ESD? It's a deamon that can be placed betweem the actual sound card and ur client applications.

ps -A shows you a 'esd' process running after startup?

Perhaps (i'm just guessing) ur sistems starts it on start up, then you can't use your sound device (it's in use by esd)... you change ur driver, therefore esd will die and ur sound card is available.

It's just a theory.

Another thing to automate ur process is to add a line to your /etc/rc.local file that restarts the sound service. Perhaps that coulkd work.

Ricapar · 05-02-2004, 03:22 PM

that sounds about right.....

ill try that, i cant reboot right now, cause im in the middle of a damn 10 page reseach report for history class...... lol

ill report back here when i try it.

eantoranz · 05-02-2004, 03:28 PM

in my mandrake the line to restart the sound is: service sound restart

Let me know once u try.

Ricapar · 05-03-2004, 02:09 PM

Code:

 PID TTY          TIME CMD
 2063 tty1     00:00:00 startx
 2076 tty1     00:00:00 xinit
 2101 tty1     00:00:00 startkde
 2144 tty1     00:00:00 magicdev
 2158 tty1     00:00:00 gconfd-2
 2217 tty1     00:00:00 kwrapper
 2393 pts0     00:00:00 ps

Thats what I get when i type in "ps -a"

I tried using "service sound restart", but that came up with an error saying command not found.

But I noticed something, last night, i was using Noauton to listen to music, and i shut down the computer with it running, today, when i started it up, i loaded the programs i had running when i shutdown, like normal. Noauton automaticly started playing the music. I didnt have to do any of the driver changeing stuff...

eantoranz · 05-03-2004, 02:41 PM

well, well.... it's ps -A (capital A). (sorry for that

)

That will show all the running processes..... another thing is that services are handled only by root.

OK... keep me posted on advances you make.

Ricapar · 05-03-2004, 03:27 PM

ok, i just rebooted the comptuer. When i rebooted, i made sure Noauton was closed, and as I thaught, the sound was not working again.

i opened up a console and used "ps -A" and i got this:

Code:

 PID TTY          TIME CMD
    1 ?        00:00:02 init
    2 ?        00:00:00 ksoftirqd/0
    3 ?        00:00:00 events/0
    4 ?        00:00:00 kblockd/0
    5 ?        00:00:00 kapmd
    6 ?        00:00:00 pdflush
    7 ?        00:00:00 pdflush
    8 ?        00:00:00 kswapd0
    9 ?        00:00:00 aio/0
   11 ?        00:00:00 kseriod
  118 ?        00:00:00 devfsd
  208 ?        00:00:00 khubd
 1308 ?        00:00:00 ifplugd
 1378 ?        00:00:00 dhclient
 1422 ?        00:00:00 portmap
 1436 ?        00:00:00 syslogd
 1444 ?        00:00:00 klogd
 1524 ?        00:00:00 xfs
 1562 ?        00:00:00 atd
 1580 ?        00:00:00 xinetd
 1611 ?        00:00:00 cupsd
 1767 ?        00:00:00 crond
 1800 ?        00:00:00 lisa
 1867 ?        00:00:00 login
 1868 tty2     00:00:00 mingetty
 1869 tty3     00:00:00 mingetty
 1870 tty4     00:00:00 mingetty
 1871 tty5     00:00:00 mingetty
 1872 tty6     00:00:00 mingetty
 2023 tty1     00:00:00 bash
 2062 tty1     00:00:00 startx
 2075 tty1     00:00:00 xinit
 2076 ?        00:00:02 X
 2100 tty1     00:00:00 startkde
 2143 tty1     00:00:00 magicdev
 2157 tty1     00:00:00 gconfd-2
 2160 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2163 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2165 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2168 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2169 ?        00:00:00 fam
 2215 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2216 tty1     00:00:00 kwrapper
 2218 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2219 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2221 ?        00:00:01 kdeinit
 2223 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2224 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2225 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2229 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2231 ?        00:00:00 gkrellm
 2235 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2236 ?        00:00:01 gaim
 2290 ?        00:00:00 gaim
 2291 ?        00:00:00 gaim
 2292 ?        00:00:00 kdeinit
 2293 pts0     00:00:00 bash
 2326 pts0     00:00:00 ps

I dont see any "esd" in there tho...

And I restarted once again, but this time with Noauton running, and the sound was normal when i restarted.......

eantoranz · 05-03-2004, 07:00 PM

well.... I guess I don't have an explanation to that. Maybe Microsoft had a hand on your sound driver.

Ricapar · 05-03-2004, 07:07 PM

I guess ill just leave Noauton on when im going to shut down, thats been working for a while now.....

Drivers give me problems in windows and now, linux....

drivers dont like me....

eantoranz · 05-03-2004, 08:01 PM

I think you should dig a little further.

This are some things you should consider:

If you are usein noatun, it could mean the problem is produced by (or at lest related to) the KDE Sound server (presence or abscense..... not sure). Is it on? Is it off? Try to find out and make different tests (start it, stop it.. restart it and so on).

There are a couple of more things to consider..... but I'd need to be in front of your computer to try them... can't think of one right now...

Patience is the keyword here.

Good luck!

Ricapar · 05-03-2004, 08:03 PM

how do i check if the KDE Sound server is on?

eantoranz · 05-03-2004, 11:07 PM

well... the KDE administration tools have a set for handling sound. One of those tools is used to handle the KDE Sound server.

bibilit · 05-04-2004, 12:49 AM

The related soundserver is "arts".

eantoranz · 05-04-2004, 02:10 PM

that's it.. the KDE sound server: arts. Ur good.

What have you found out?