Mandrake defaults all sound down to 0 from the install. Just adjust your Aumix app or Kmix app volume up and try getting sound from another game or something again.

One example that comes to mind is when you try and "upgrade" win98 to win2000. The installation actually says that some of my programs and hardware will not work, and that I have to get with the vendor for a fix.... WHAT?

Well, THIS one I can answer <G> Win 2000 is NOT an upgrade for Win 98 - it is (effectively) Win NT 5! And Win NT will NOT allow many Win 98 programs to run because it is a protected-memory OS, where Win 98 only pretends to be. Many Win98 applications took advantage of this to enhance video performance (notably games) and thus Win NT will abort them to protect itself.

Sorry that we've hijacked your thread. A couple of questions, please.

(1) Who is the manufacturer and what is the model of your motherboard? I suspect you have the same onboard sound chip as is in this comp of mine. If so, all the sound support you need is available from ALSA (you need the first three files - driver, library, utilities) and the instructions for the Intel i810 sound are here
In my Slackware 9.1 system with kernel 2.4.23, I can follow the ALSA instructions and get a proper install. However, you may have to do some things slightly different for Mandrake or Fedora. I've never used either one, so I couldn't say.

(2) Since you have sound with the Slack Live-CD, in Slack, what is the output of
# lspci (must be run as root)
and
$ cat /proc/modules (may be run as normal user).
This should tell us what you have, and what you will need to get sound working in your other distros.

Ok - so I downloaded the two Slackware images and copied them to CD's - and I now have two very nice coasters. They are NOT bootable! Next???

Andy,

You don't seem to be taking the hint to move the Slackware installation tutorial over to the Slackware section. Hmmm. Anyway, as a result I actually get to provide an answer for a change.

Instead of just copying the ISO files onto CDs you must use the software's "Burn Image" function. In Nero, this is in the File menu.


Now back to sound in Mandrake.

As posted previously in here I get some sound using ALSA drivers with my SBLive board. Taking a cue from this discussion that testing with another distro might help, I downloaded Knoppix,not Slax (because Slax has no boot from floppy option and my will not boot from CDROM), booted it and sound seems to work even in XAWTV. So now, Chinaman, here are my results of the commands you mentioned above:

lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03)
00:04.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02)
00:04.1 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01)
00:04.2 USB Controller: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 USB (rev 01)
00:04.3 Bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ACPI (rev 02)
00:09.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 02)
00:09.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 02)
00:0a.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. 20262 (rev 01)
00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Macronix, Inc. [MXIC] MX987x5 (rev 25)
00:0d.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 05)
00:0d.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 05)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV5 [RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro] (rev 11)

cat /proc/modules
autofs4 8756 1 (autoclean)
af_packet 13448 0 (autoclean)
nls_iso8859-1 2876 0 (autoclean)
nls_cp437 4380 0 (autoclean)
agpgart 38296 0 (unused)
emu10k1 61064 1
sound 55276 0 [emu10k1]
ac97_codec 11916 0 [emu10k1]
tulip 38752 1
crc32 2832 0 [tulip]
emu10k1-gp 1224 0 (unused)
gameport 1388 0 [emu10k1-gp]
tuner 9408 1 (autoclean)
msp3400 15596 1 (autoclean)
bttv 95968 1
i2c-algo-bit 6888 1 [bttv]
i2c-core 12100 0 [tuner msp3400 bttv i2c-algo-bit]
soundcore 3428 7 [emu10k1 sound bttv]
videodev 5472 3 [bttv]
serial 52004 0 (autoclean)
usb-uhci 21868 0 (unused)
usbcore 57472 1 [usb-uhci]
apm 9768 2
rtc 6940 0 (autoclean)
cloop 9092 2


OK. So now I have this info from Knoppix which seems to be using OSS, how do I apply this to Mandrake using ALSA?

The correct way to burn an .iso file is to choose "burn image to disc," which will make a bootable CD.

Why don't you email me and let's move out of this thread. It's really not what Sociologo wanted to know, and maybe he will start responding with information so we can help him. Before you start installing Slackware, I have some questions about your hardware, anyway.

If you don't want help specifically from me, that's okay, but if we continue it will have to be out of this thread. Also, as suugested, there is a forum called Slackware Installation with not one, but four awesome, knowledge moderators.

That post was for Sociologo. I answered your questions in your Silent Night thread.

OK.. this guys have gonne nuts talking about GNU phylosophy.... and that's OK.... but I think you want to get the sound working, right? Let's see if I can help you on that very little thing.

With mandrake, there are some things you have to be careful about... don't know about other distributions. When you get your card working, it can be thrue a oss module or a alsa module. I personally use alsa modules... though I don't have a reason for it... just do it cause I can get it working without having to wear my hair off (oh... maybe it's because with alsa you can share the device among many sound processes ). You can change the module you are using by using harddrake2 (graphical) or using draksound (graphical or console based).

Once you have set it up... you have gone half the way.... you got the device running.... now applications, they don't guess where the device is and so on.. at least, not in my case. If you are using xmms (just to name one bitchy [I mean... POPULAR... don't get me wrong ] application) you have to configure it to use the right sound outlet.... so to speak. If you are using alsa, tell it to use the alsa output... if it's the OSS module... then choose the OSS output.

Another thing I do is use esd. It works perfectly neatly... it (as a deamon) stands between the OSS module or ALSA module.... and the applications.... in my experience it doesn't matter which one you choose, esd will get the right one.. and then all applications going up thrue esd will actually sound (just remember to configure applications to use the right output). I have esd working for xmms, mplayer, xine, and I think even arts goes out through esd.... not sure though.... i hate midi with all my heart, therefore can't advice you on that subject.

If you think I was helpful and want to ask things, feel free to email me.. i'll try to help as much as I can.

I know that it is not an upgrade, hence the parentheses. How else would you call going from win 98 to win 2000? My point was that going from the different distros and/or upgrades with Linux, I haven't had nearly as many problems ....

Just one more quick Windows comment - then I'll stop

Going from Win 98 to Win 2000 is more like going from Linux to AIX then RedHat to say Mandrake

Sociologo,

Where are you at with your sound problem?

You're not politically correct with that analogy since Win 98 and Win 2000 are both products of Microsoft. RedHat and Mandrake are two different companies.

That's comparing apples to oranges, or should I dare to say apples to microsoft..?

Hi All:
I'm the one who started this thread. Well, on the advice of several of you, I have downloaded and installed Slackware 9.1. I got it so that it boots on LILO. Dandy. Perfect. Even works with System Commander 7. One problem. What do I do now?

I have just installed Slackware 9.1 and it actually boots from LILO (this is after 8-10 trials). I am a complete Slacknewbie. What do I do now? It prompts me with "Dark....(i forget):#" and I enter "root" and "password". Then I don't know what to do? So, I try to be "cool" and I type "startx" (I saw this somewhere"), and I get black monitor syndrome. Nada! I tried evoking the 'man" only to get nothin that would help me.

I wanted to go to KDE or Gnome, both of which are installed. So I tried "kdeinit" (I deduced this somehow). Nothing. Well, I won't bore you. I just want to get to a desktop where I can begin to work with Slackware, which I have heard and read is excellent.

Please help this newly made Slacknewbie.
Thanks.

P.S. I understand that this is a Mandrake forum. However, it is Mandrake 9.2 that provided the impetus for me to arrive here.
Thanks again.


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Hey, Sociologo,

Accept my apology for letting your thread get out of hand.

Before you go any further, let's create you a normal user account. At the # prompt (the # let's you know you're logged in as root) type ->
# adduser <name>
where you don't use those <>symbols, but you enter the name you would like for your normal user account. Just press enter for everything except the password and you'll be okay. You do not want to login to Linux as root all the time. That is the first and most important thing that makes Linux so much more secure than Winders. No lesson now, just do it! And then reboot.

You have a video problem with Slack. Do you know anything about your hardware?

If not, then log back in as root (su and then your password) and do this ->
# lspci
and post the output here. Actually, that would be hard to do booting from one system to the other, so just let us know what video card you have.

Let's start there, okay?

Chinaman,
Thanks for asking, but nowhere with Mandrake.
I'm still trying but getting weary.