New forum topic: Linux - Virtualization

Well if the majority of members want this new forum, so be it. I've tried to make a point about what may happen.

I guess if everybody is going to be extra careful with it I could accept it.

And don't get me wrong, I have nothing against virtualization and I know that it can be a great solution sometimes, it's just that it's being used for hosting WinShit OS too and with that in mind is logical to assume that this new forum will in one way or another have questions and answers WinShit OS related.

That's what I don't like about it.

Also, I believe that Linux - General and even Linux - Software and Linux - Networking are perfectly qulified forums to cover this topic.

In less than 1 second with Google I've found http://virt.kernelnewbies.org/, which IMO basically covers and provides links to all that average user would like to know about virtualization.

I don't see why we should reject Windows related questions coming from members of the LQ community.
About the topic, I'm wondering if locating virtualization under Linux might not be too restrictive. Most virtualization technologies are inherently cross OSes so I would prefer a generic forum (same way as Programming) where could also be discussed OpenSolaris zones, BSD Jails and other non Gnu/Linux specific solutions as while as Linux supported technologies like VirtualBox where neither the host nor the guest would be a Gnu/Linux distro.

Just adding another vote to the virt forum addition

Originally Posted by alan_ri Maybe Linus Torvalds, ...and I do agree with him on most of the things he said below; Torvalds also said virtualization is “not that big of a deal” and he predicted that new ways of users interacting with operating systems will represent the key changes in the computing industry. Virtualization has “been around for probably 50 years. I forget when IBM started offering virtualization on their big hardware. Maybe not 50 years, but it’s been all around for decades and it’s very interesting in niche markets - I think the people who expected to change things radically are just fooling themselves,” Torvalds said. “But also, I’d actually expect that new form factor is in new input and output devices. If we actually end up getting projection displays on cell phones, that might actually change how people start thinking of hardware and that, in turn, might change how we interact and how we use operating systems. But virtualization will not be it."

So just because Linus isn't in favor of Virtualization, we shouldn't have a forum for members to post such questions? When did Linus become the benevolent dictator over LQ? I fail to see this as valid reasoning behind not helping others and a place where people can post VM questions.

Originally Posted by alan_ri Also, I believe that Linux - General and even Linux - Software and Linux - Networking are perfectly qulified forums to cover this topic.

I also see those as valid forums for such questions, if it's not at all related to the VM software as the culprit behind the problems.

If it's an actual OS issue or software on OS that happens to be a VM, it fits perfectly into a number of other forums.

There's a recent thread that got shoved into General because the OP was asking about VMware ESX, which is technically Linux that supports the VM's but it got moved saying it's not Linux related, which I fail to agree with since VMware ESX actually uses a Linux kernel and many other bits of software to make it run.

Originally Posted by jeremy With the rise of native in-kernel virtualization, I think the time for a "Linux - Virtualization" forum may be upon us. Is there anyone who would be against such a forum? --jeremy

While Virtualization is something I may never use, I don't see valid reason to be against the forum. At the very least, it would help 'unclutter' other forums.

My

I'm all for it. I've had two old Slackware releases (3.5 and 8.1) running in Qemu, and Haiku and XP Pro running in VirtualBox. All using Slackware (12.2 and 13.0) as the host.

Based on the feedback in this thread I'll likely create a Linux - Virtualization forum sometime early next week. If you have any additional feedback on this topic, let us know ASAP.

--jeremy

If the cake below your pinguin means that today is your birthday then:

HAPPY BIRTHDAY JEREMY!

About the virtualization forum, I'm eager to participate (mainly asking questions and learning ).

Kind regards,

Eric

Originally Posted by EricTRA If the cake below your pinguin means that today is your birthday then: HAPPY BIRTHDAY JEREMY!

It's the on/offline indicator - penguin+question mark = online, blank penguin = offline. On birthdays you will see a birthday cake.

Or were you just getting in early?

No XavierP, I was referring to the cake below the pinguin below Jeremy's name (the avatar). In my browser I see a little tiny birthday cake with one candle just below the avatar.

Don't you see the cake? Or have you already eaten it?

Kind regards,

Eric

According to his mini-stats:

Date of Birth October 9 Registered 06-19-00 Total Posts 7,099 Blog Entries 0

So yes, this explains the cake under the avatar. Mmmmmmm... Caaaake...

And happy birthday, Jeremy

I can see the cake. Happy Birthday, Jeremy!

Thanks for seconding the cake thingy, I started to think it was because of all the cervezas I'm consuming on vacation right now.

Kind regards,

Eric

+1 from me for a virtualization forum. We are using it heavily here at work, and having a dedicated forum here at LQ would be something that I think would be very useful

I didn't see it there - so yep, it is his birthday.

Happy birthday Jeremy.