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Old 04-23-2002, 04:11 PM   #1
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Lightbulb mailing list? newsgroup?


Is it possible to get at the content in here without wearing out the mouse button clicking everywhere?

A newsgroup-feed or mailinglist-feed would *really* attract a lot of older gurus like myself who really do not enjoy the web-based forums.
 
Old 04-24-2002, 05:48 PM   #2
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The problem with a mailing list "feed" is that there is really no way I have seen to interface the boards with a list that I like. I am open to suggestions however.

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Old 04-24-2002, 07:51 PM   #3
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hmm

what lists do you like? :-)

It would be relatively painless to mangle all mailing list postings into the appropriate form ... I think. How are the posts stored now? Is it some form of database structure?

One thing that came to mind afterward is to make posting only available for subscribed users, but read-only access for all (you have bills to pay, of course)
 
Old 04-24-2002, 08:07 PM   #4
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One thing that came to mind afterward is to make posting only available for subscribed users, but read-only access for all (you have bills to pay, of course)
Just MHO but paying to _help_ other people in the Linux/open source community seems very wrong.

Not that my posts are all that helpful or that I'm against contributing financially. I don't think the gurus should be "taxed" for their knowledge (& their generosity). It should all be done in the "spirit" of open source & free software.

PS.: Perhaps I'm misinterpereting what exactly you mean by "subscribed". If you meant registered (the policy that exists for the forum) then my humble apologies.

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Old 04-24-2002, 09:02 PM   #5
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Good point

If you don't want easier access, use the web forums. There are ads to help pay for the resources that a site like this takes. If you want to use a newsgroup (I prefer that to a mailing list) then you should at the very least have contributing member access so that your bandwidth and processor time is paid for, since you aren't making ad impressions.

I think that newsgroups would be far less bandwidth intensive than a web forum so maybe some kind of pro-rate but now we're getting silly. :-)

I wasn't trying to penalize gurus; I was trying to provide a mechanism to bring MORE of them to LinuxQuestions.org. I know that personally I dislike web forums since they are ill-suited to this type of communications. Newbies love it because it's familliar and dead-simple to navigate. However experts know how to drive a news reader and the threading and quicker access makes the experience far better for them.

I would also believe that gurus understand that bandwidth and equipment costs money and would be willing to pay for a contributing member status in order to get this kind of perk. I don't know about you, but I like helping people and if I could do it from a news reader (especially if LQ won't expire articles) then not only do I have a very quick and less agravating experience, I also have a good reference tool.
 
Old 04-25-2002, 05:36 AM   #6
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hmm, i do have trouble understaning why people demand the moon on a stick for free just because they are using open source software. If you want to have your say about that you should have replied to the "contributing members" thread, which discussed the issue. Where exactly do you expect jeremy to get the money from to run this site??

as for mailing lists, it'd most likely get very confusing. people don't reply to posts, they reply to threads mostly, so the comments they refer to are not usually copied into their reply, which would make things very confusing. as opposed to a proper email mailing list, when people will take the time to edit down a number of indented replies to make mails make sense.
 
Old 04-25-2002, 08:23 AM   #7
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Are you confused? I'm not asking for the moon on a stick for free

I didn't suggest getting something for nothing. At all. Please re-read my post (if it is indeed mine you're replying to)

Have my say about *what*, exactly?

Regarding mailing lists: I've had a great number of replies to my posts with my text quoted. Since it is likely the gurus who would be using the mailing list/newsgroup access I would have assumed they would be quoting properly.

Replying to threads is confusing, as this post shows. I'm pretty sure you're replying to my post but I'm not sure. :-)
 
Old 04-25-2002, 08:35 AM   #8
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heh, no i was referring to the post mr no1zhome, who seems to demand that he/she/they/it should have free breakfast, lunch AND dinner as far as open source is concerned
 
Old 04-25-2002, 01:45 PM   #9
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heh, no i was referring to the post mr no1zhome, who seems to demand that he/she/they/it should have free breakfast, lunch AND dinner as far as open source is concerned
Wow. You really got my number. Here I thought I'd have to be married for several years in order to find out what opinions I hold. Hey, what's my favourite colour? I never could decide (or cared to); maybe you can tell me.

Hmmmm. I reread my post & found no statements of demands, expectations or of what I feel that I'm owed. Certainly none were implied, but obviously were inferred. For that I accept the responsibility of not making myself explicitly clear.

In regards to Linux Questions & all those behind it, the open source community & to rest of the remaining world: I make no demands, I don't feel that I'm owed anything, & I have little expectations. In regards to the latter, none outside of some basic common courtesy, but even here I'm ultimately indifferent.

I "expect" people to act in their own rational self interest. As I in turn will act in mine. I expect Jeremy to do whatever he needs to do; whatever he wants to do; what he has every right to do.

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...paying to _help_ other people in the Linux/open source community ...
I was referring to having experienced *nix users pay $ as a prerequisite to offering advice to less experienced users (of which I'm one. So it wouldn't be me paying in any case). I was not referring to contributing money for open source software or resources (like this site). For the record, I would very much like to contribute money to this site & to other open source projects (so that I may have those "warm & fuzzy" feelings), but it is not financially feasible at the present, I'm sorry.

In regards to what I owe this site & the open source community: my gratitude, my thanks, & yes when asked for my money. If at the time it (money) is asked for I'm unable to provide it then that is my problem (i.e., no longer having access to such resources).

If you're going to judge & criticize me for the opinions I hold please let it be for those that actually exist. That's all I ask for...but I do not demand it, feel that I'm owed it, or expect it.

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My fault entirely. The post in question can be easily misread. I'll try to express myself more clearly in the future.
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