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As an engineering manager, I have developed a reflex in which I come into some random debate and ask: What problem are we trying to solve?
This thread fits---I see no problem with the current system---especially with the "Thanks" feature. I suggest that Jeremy add this to his existing list of ideas for change, and then we can all go back to work.
Jeremy has gone on record publicly within this sub-forum to say that the titles are not indicative of anyone's knowledge and are really just there as a little "thanks" for posting a certain number of times. We have had many many discussions around this subject - to turn the titles into actual ranks, to make them more "fun" and to do away with them altogether. I guess that this is the 2009 H1 thread. We are a relatively self-cleaning forum - duff responses are largely stamped on and corrected and in that way members can see who offers useful information and who doesn't.
All members are encouraged to provide worthwhile answers to questions, whether the member has their own question or not. Frankly, titles are so trivial that it seems odd to devote so much time to the question. The only important title is the one held by Jeremy - that of Admin. All the rest are changeable.
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As an engineering manager, I have developed a reflex in which I come into some random debate and ask: What problem are we trying to solve?
What was the problem solved when the current ranking system was put in place???
If you deny that the title 'GURU' is misleading to new members, THEN you probably are not GETTING IT. UNLESS if there was a WELCOME message which deliberately WARNS the new members that these titles are actually USELESS, but then according to my knowledge, newbies will NOT EASILY find threads like these. (of which newbies are the real desperate solutions seekers)
Most of you are brushing away my system before even looking at it, give it a GO. Its a pitty that SOME of these false 'gurus' are AFRAID of being 'STRIPPED' of their self proclaimed GURU status....
Distribution: Mandriva 2009 X86_64 suse 11.3 X86_64 Centos X86_64 Debian X86_64 Linux MInt 86_64 OS X
Posts: 2,369
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Originally Posted by rob124
What was the problem solved when the current ranking system was put in place???
If you deny that the title 'GURU' is misleading to new members, THEN you probably are not GETTING IT. UNLESS if there was a WELCOME message which deliberately WARNS the new members that these titles are actually USELESS, but then according to my knowledge, newbies will NOT EASILY find threads like these. (of which newbies are the real desperate solutions seekers)
Most of you are brushing away my system before even looking at it, give it a GO. Its a pitty that SOME of these false 'gurus' are AFRAID of being 'STRIPPED' of their self proclaimed GURU status....
Why is any title misleading ?
Someone is seeking for a answer for his problem and he get a advise from
somebody look carefully to that advice and make youŕe own judgement .
So a other option is no titles at all .
Meaning No Newbie NO Senior Members NO Guruś Only Members and that is it
I was never a guru, I opted for something like "compulsive poster" or whatever the second option was. The titles are not designed to show knowledge and never have done, they have always just been there to recognise number of posts. For guru, read "long term member/high poster" and adjust for the other titles. That is all they show.
To reiterate - the titles and post count do not matter, the knowledge imparted is what is important. Really, if titles mean so much, it is indicative of something deeper seated.
1st, if you agree that this thread is "Terrible", rate it that way.
2nd, thank you, rob124, for inspiring me to think up a new epithet that I didn't learn in the Army. I won't mention here because it would a personal attack &c.
3rd, did anyone bother to apply the formula to some of our long time users?
Code:
acid_kewpie 32,250 Jun 01==95 89=90 3.772
trickykid 23,957 Jan 01==100 6=7 34.224
XavierP 16,863 Nov 02==78 35=36 6.005
unSpawn 15,102 May 01==96 92=93 1.692
jeremy 6,850 Jun 00==107 92=93 0.688
archtoad6 3,300 Oct 04==55 25=26 2.308
saikee 2,951 Sep 05==44 11=12 5.589
rob124 25 Mar 09==02 0=1 12.500
figures current at time post was composed
I hope this real world test speaks for itself.
4th, vBulletin already includes a reputation feature which jeremy has wisely not implemented (along w/ avatars -- esp. moving ones).
@archtoad6
acid_kewpie 32,250 Jun 01==95 89=90 3.772
trickykid 23,957 Jan 01==100 6=7 34.224
XavierP 16,863 Nov 02==78 35=36 6.005
unSpawn 15,102 May 01==96 92=93 1.692
jeremy 6,850 Jun 00==107 92=93 0.688
archtoad6 3,300 Oct 04==55 25=26 2.308
saikee 2,951 Sep 05==44 11=12 5.589
rob124 25 Mar 09==02 0=1 12.500
figures current at time post was composed
Interesting, check the translations!
Code:
acid_kewpie 32,250 Jun 01==95 89=90 3.772 User
trickykid 23,957 Jan 01==100 6=7 34.224 Learner
XavierP 16,863 Nov 02==78 35=36 6.005 User
unSpawn 15,102 May 01==96 92=93 1.692 Advanced User
jeremy 6,850 Jun 00==107 92=93 0.688 TRUE GURU
archtoad6 3,300 Oct 04==55 25=26 2.308 User.....(close to adv user)
saikee 2,951 Sep 05==44 11=12 5.589 User
rob124 25 Mar 09==02 0=1 12.500 LQ Newbie...(Cannot rank)
Can some one pick up some of your familiar/welknown usernames whom you associate with good answers and try this lets see.
As a reminder of the criteria:
Quote:
Formula is (posts/(thanks+1))/months_as_member
If your score is above 8, --> Learner
If your score is less than 8, --> User
If your score is less than 2, --> Advanced User
If your score is less than 1, --> Expert
If your score is less than 0.8, --> Guru
Then all users whose accounts are 3 months old or less --> LQ Newbies
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