LinuxQuestions.org
Download your favorite Linux distribution at LQ ISO.
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > LinuxQuestions.org > LQ Suggestions & Feedback
User Name
Password
LQ Suggestions & Feedback Do you have a suggestion for this site or an idea that will make the site better? This forum is for you.
PLEASE READ THIS FORUM - Information and status updates will also be posted here.

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 05-18-2024, 10:54 AM   #121
trevoratxtal
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2012
Location: South Devon, UK
Distribution: PCLinuxOS, Suse, Mint, Puppy.
Posts: 80

Rep: Reputation: 20
Unhappy Blocked for two days by Cloudflare


Cloudflare is and always have been faulty, it now is blocking access repeatedly for me (firefox latest )
If it persists Sadly I will not use the forum.
Many thank for the past
 
Old 05-18-2024, 11:10 AM   #122
shortarcflyer
Member
 
Registered: May 2022
Location: Louisiana/USA
Distribution: Void, ArchBang, PCLinuxOS, Mabox, ArcoLinux, Archman, RebornOS, Garuda, EndeavourOS
Posts: 555

Rep: Reputation: 74
This BS crap has to stop! It is so anoying that I hate to try to log into this forum anymore! Please fix it!
 
Old 05-18-2024, 11:46 AM   #123
mrmazda
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Aug 2016
Location: SE USA
Distribution: openSUSE 24/7; Debian, Knoppix, Mageia, Fedora, others
Posts: 5,878
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078
Cloudfare interruptions, and delays (sending request to rum-http-intake.logs.datadoghq.com showing on status line), have become annoyingly frequent here. The timing may have coincided with my change in /etc/resolv.conf from 1.0.0.1 (Cloudfare) on line 1 to 8.8.4.4 (Google), or vice versa. My current line 1 is 1.0.0.1. My first page open attempt here since getting up this morning was Cloudfare interrupted.
 
Old 05-18-2024, 11:48 AM   #124
business_kid
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Distribution: Slackware, Slarm64 & Android
Posts: 16,454

Rep: Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353
I've found a workaround. It's still a PITA, but it works.

If you change your own observed IP (e.g turning on/off a vpn or other proxy), then stop & re-seek the page you're waiting for, it loads without delay.

That proves cloudfare is the problem. Hope this helps someone.
 
Old 05-18-2024, 12:42 PM   #125
mjolnir
Member
 
Registered: Apr 2003
Posts: 824

Rep: Reputation: 106Reputation: 106
For me, it seems to be getting a little more responsive.
 
Old 05-18-2024, 02:53 PM   #126
wpeckham
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Apr 2010
Location: Continental USA
Distribution: Debian, Ubuntu, RedHat, DSL, Puppy, CentOS, Knoppix, Mint-DE, Sparky, VSIDO, tinycore, Q4OS, Manjaro
Posts: 5,765

Rep: Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764
I detected the problem Friday.
There is already an issue open on this
(SLOW see https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...hp?issueid=273 if you can)
It is better today than yesterday, and I have not seen a root cause report yet. The cause may not be known yet.
IT certainly looked like a problem with Clownflair, but I will wait for better information to say that is certain.
 
Old 05-18-2024, 03:35 PM   #127
wpeckham
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Apr 2010
Location: Continental USA
Distribution: Debian, Ubuntu, RedHat, DSL, Puppy, CentOS, Knoppix, Mint-DE, Sparky, VSIDO, tinycore, Q4OS, Manjaro
Posts: 5,765

Rep: Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764
Quote:
Originally Posted by shortarcflyer View Post
This BS crap has to stop! It is so anoying that I hate to try to log into this forum anymore! Please fix it!
Demanding that someone fix it when that someone is not the cause of the problem is less than productive. First let us see if they can detect the location of the problem, and the cause. Once they do they will know who has to do the fixing.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 05-18-2024, 03:36 PM   #128
shortarcflyer
Member
 
Registered: May 2022
Location: Louisiana/USA
Distribution: Void, ArchBang, PCLinuxOS, Mabox, ArcoLinux, Archman, RebornOS, Garuda, EndeavourOS
Posts: 555

Rep: Reputation: 74
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpeckham View Post
Demanding that someone fix it when that someone is not the cause of the problem is less than productive. First let us see if they can detect the location of the problem, and the cause. Once they do they will know who has to do the fixing.
I dont see any demand in my post. I do however see "please fix it". You can read cant you?
 
Old 05-18-2024, 03:37 PM   #129
wpeckham
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Apr 2010
Location: Continental USA
Distribution: Debian, Ubuntu, RedHat, DSL, Puppy, CentOS, Knoppix, Mint-DE, Sparky, VSIDO, tinycore, Q4OS, Manjaro
Posts: 5,765

Rep: Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764Reputation: 2764
Quote:
Originally Posted by business_kid View Post
I've found a workaround. It's still a PITA, but it works.

If you change your own observed IP (e.g turning on/off a vpn or other proxy), then stop & re-seek the page you're waiting for, it loads without delay.

That proves cloudfare is the problem. Hope this helps someone.
That is NOT proof, but it is valuable evidence! Glad you tried that and reported results here, that is far more productive than just complaining without facts or evidence.
 
Old 05-18-2024, 06:33 PM   #130
GlennsPref
Senior Member
 
Registered: Apr 2004
Location: Brisbane, Australia
Distribution: Devuan
Posts: 3,660
Blog Entries: 33

Rep: Reputation: 283Reputation: 283Reputation: 283
Hi, I'm getting this "prove you're a person" notice as well.

It is a bit of a pain, but I'm wondering, on the positive side if this will cut down some of the spurious posts that go on and on while not answering any "more info" requests from what I've begun to think are data mining bots.

Just my 2 cents worth... I also think some websites require the lowering of security measures, like noscript to access the site(s).
 
Old 05-19-2024, 04:36 AM   #131
business_kid
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Jan 2006
Location: Ireland
Distribution: Slackware, Slarm64 & Android
Posts: 16,454

Rep: Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353Reputation: 2353
Quote:
Originally Posted by wpeckham View Post
That is NOT proof, but it is valuable evidence! Glad you tried that and reported results here, that is far more productive than just complaining without facts or evidence.
I agree. But I also think cloudfare would accept this as their problem based on that.

I'm no network whiz, but I did read a piece some two decades back on DoS by the eccentric DJ Bernstein. He painted it as a battle of cpu power. His proposal was simnply to send an ACK to each request once you realised you were being attacked. That meant you were doing less work servicing their request than they were making it.

A core of DoS mitigation must be to reject repeated requests from the same IP, and it seems that particular policy is in overdrive. Hence, you can land on LQ but subsequent requests are "mitigated" or delayed.

EDIT:@wpeckham - thanks for mentioning me.my wheeze on the LQ issueid 273 which saves me posting there.

Last edited by business_kid; 05-19-2024 at 04:45 AM.
 
Old 05-19-2024, 10:39 AM   #132
jeremy
root
 
Registered: Jun 2000
Distribution: Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu
Posts: 13,605

Rep: Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104Reputation: 4104
Confirming that there is an ongoing network attack aimed at the site. FWIW, without Cloudflare the site would have been 100% unavailable for the entire duration, vs slow or sometimes not available. We're continuing to investigate.

--jeremy
 
11 members found this post helpful.
Old 05-19-2024, 11:30 PM   #133
rherbert
Member
 
Registered: Nov 2003
Location: Canada
Distribution: Slackware
Posts: 104

Rep: Reputation: 65
I'm now able to log into LQ with all of my browsers (Brave, Chromium and Firefox) with no sign of a Cloudflare verification. Hope everyone else is now, too.
 
Old 05-19-2024, 11:48 PM   #134
hazel
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Mar 2016
Location: Harrow, UK
Distribution: LFS, AntiX, Slackware
Posts: 7,682
Blog Entries: 19

Rep: Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492Reputation: 4492
Yup! I'm in too with my regular Firefox. It was unusually slow but no verification.

Funnily enough I'm still logged in with this version; I wasn't able to log out on Friday so I must have been logged in all this time.

Last edited by hazel; 05-19-2024 at 11:50 PM.
 
Old 05-20-2024, 12:36 AM   #135
mrmazda
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Aug 2016
Location: SE USA
Distribution: openSUSE 24/7; Debian, Knoppix, Mageia, Fedora, others
Posts: 5,878
Blog Entries: 1

Rep: Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078Reputation: 2078
Still a ton of waiting for "sending request to rum-http-intake.logs.datadoghq.com showing on status line" to go away and the page respond to whatever was last clicked, such as preview post button. This can take more like minutes than seconds to clear.
 
  


Reply

Tags
cloudflare



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
LXer: World's most frustrating televised Linux install just got more frustrating LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 11-03-2015 01:50 AM
mysql and ssh connection delays ernesto_cgf Linux - Networking 0 06-21-2007 01:13 PM
why linux is frustrating rosko Linux - Software 64 08-09-2003 03:03 PM
Installing stuff on the most frustrating OS in the world. Travis86 Linux - Software 4 01-02-2003 05:25 AM
Frustrating PlanetNEO Linux - Networking 24 12-09-2002 03:56 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > LinuxQuestions.org > LQ Suggestions & Feedback

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:00 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration