I can appreciate the simplicity of this forum format, but as people use phones more and more, I'm surprised that there is no mobile friendly version of this forum.

This might be more work than the forum owners are cut out for, but I personally like https://flarum.org it's open source and pretty simple to navigate. I have no clue what it's like on the backend for setting it up and maintaining it. Maybe it's a nightmare idk.

Anyway, just curious in general, if there are plans to overhaul this site or at least make the current format more mobile friendly. Thanks!

I don't know exactly when, but LQ 2.0 is coming - you'll have to ask Jeremy exactly when that will be though.

Have you tried the LinuxQuestions.org Mobile app, as there is a smartphone app for this site.

Without sounding too negative, one of the things I've noticed with the web in recent years is that when a site is made more mobile-friendly, it often becomes less non-mobile friendly.

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No kidding. I hope LQ 2.0 doesn't use Discourse, either. Forums pre-Discourse relied on moderators to set the standards, while Discourse is ideal for micromanagement-- new users are subjected to a triathlon for toddlers, and the entire thing is a bloated mess of Javascript. I've sworn off any forum that uses it. The FSF even uses it now, they were so chuffed to unveil it. Awful.

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Oh, hush now, you negative Nancy!

Sorry, I couldn't help myself

Indeed. If there is an overhaul of this site in the works I hope that extensive testing is done on the desktop and that it continues to work fine without javascript and relies on CSS for the bells and whistles. There's not a serious need for eye candy unless the goal is to distract from and eventually eliminate the content.

I'm not seeing the use-case for a mobile version of the site. But if there is, it should be a separate UI. I've not yet seen good, working examples of sites with layouts that work well for both normal desktops and mobile computers^Wphones.

Wondering how this will effect users that use Dillo browser to access this forum like me.
Or links2 browser also.

I've got a high dollar Samsung Phone. Browsing the forum is not it's primary purpose. So I cannot comment on user friendly bit.

well there's one thing we agree on.

i'm not sure but i've been listening to badvoltage recently and i think the whole team (jeremy being a part of that) said something similar. (*)

in any case i'm pretty sure jeremy listens to LQ's long time users, even the worst luddites!

i respectfully disagree.
sure, clueless web designers that run after each new trend as if it was the 11th commandment are a dime a dozen, and they make mistakes like that.
but responsive does not by definition mean desktop-unfriendly.

if you want you can take a look at my blog and tell me if you find it desktop-unfriendly.
i wrote HTML & CSS from scratch following the "mobile first" paradigm - for technical reasons: it reduces load and bandwidth for mobile users. that said, smartphones are so crazy powerful these days, and my site so simplistic, that it hardly matters...

(*) in retrospect, i think that was on another podcast...

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+1, I'll take it. Cheers.

Nicely done. That is a good example of how to do it. I'll have to look more closely at the CSS.

thanks.
it's minified; not difficult to undo that with a good code editor, or here: http://mrcoles.com/blog/css-unminify/

I think there's a lot of truth in that, and it's accentuated by persons using "webbuilders" instead of bothering to learn HTML and CSS.

One newspaper site that I visit from time-to-time just redid itself. I think that they thought they were becoming more tablet/phablet friendly.

There's lots of real estate lost to great big panel-style icons. I don't like it regardless of the device I use to view it.

I'm in favour of a "mobile-friendly" mode, if it is at no cost to the rest of the design. It usually is, so I think a "mobile-unfriendly" mode is just as important these days.

"Does your website support actual computers?"

"Does it what?"

"You heard me."

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Best laugh I've had all day!

i see what you mean - those blue boxes - changing from floating divs to fullwidth is not all there is to making it responsive.
i think the fonts are just way too large. i tend to zoom in one or two steps on most sites, but this site makes me want to zoom out. unfortunately that breaks the layout in weird ways.