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Old 09-26-2003, 03:37 PM   #1
ki6sz
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Registered: Sep 2003
Distribution: SuSE 8.2 Pro
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Spice3 trouble -- Help, please?


Hello,

I am trying to get spice3 to work on my linux box but I am having considerable trouble.

I use SuSE 8.2 pro and installed spice from the distro CD. Spice starts and I can review the help menues, etc., but when I try to model any circuit, I receive multiple errors. These errors suggest that spice is unable to find the underlying models, etc. needed for the simulation.

I removed spice and reloaded from an rpm package, but again I get the exact same errors. I am using example circuits from the spice documentation, so they should work. Additionally, I have also tried circuit files that worked well with spice running on other OS's.

Below is a print out from one of the problem session:

/home/don> spice3 f2.cir
Program: Spice, version: 3f5
Date built: Mon Mar 17 14:44:25 UTC 2003

Type "help" for more information, "quit" to leave.


Circuit: SIMPLE DIFFERENTIAL PAIR

Error on line 4 : VIN 1 0 AC 1
unknown parameter (AC)
Error on line 7 : Q1 3 2 4 MOD1
unable to find definition of model - default assumed
Error on line 8 : Q2 5 6 4 MOD1
unable to find definition of model - default assumed
Error on line 12 : .MODEL MOD1 NPN BF=50 VAF=50 IS=1.E-12 RB=100 CJC=.5PF TF=.6NS
unimplemented control card - error
Error on line 13 : .TF V(5) VIN
unimplemented control card - error
Error on line 14 : .AC DEC 10 1 100MEG
unimplemented control card - error
Error on line 15 : .END
unimplemented control card - error
Spice 1 -> listing
SIMPLE DIFFERENTIAL PAIR

1 : SIMPLE DIFFERENTIAL PAIR
2 : VCC 7 0 12
3 : VEE 8 0 -12
4 : VIN 1 0 AC 1
5 : RS1 1 2 1K
6 : RS2 6 0 1K
7 : Q1 3 2 4 MOD1
8 : Q2 5 6 4 MOD1
9 : RC1 7 3 10K
10 : RC2 7 5 10K
11 : RE 4 8 10K
12 : .MODEL MOD1 NPN BF=50 VAF=50 IS=1.E-12 RB=100 CJC=.5PF TF=.6NS
13 : .TF V(5) VIN
14 : .AC DEC 10 1 100MEG
16 : .end
Spice 2 ->

Any ideas are greatly appreciated!
Thanks,
Don
 
Old 11-11-2004, 07:08 PM   #2
iansworld
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Location: Mission Viejo, CA
Distribution: suse 9.1
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get exactly the same problem

I tried this with the spice3 that came with suse9.1 and had exactly the same problems. It complains about AC not found. The only thing I could get to run was a ridiculously simple example with a dc source and a single resistor (don't need spice for that!). I'm going to download the source and build it myself.

- Ian
 
  


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