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Old 10-18-2021, 03:28 AM   #1
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Are Firefox file downloader add-ons worth using?


Or do they merely offer a different GUI to the same capabilities already built in to Firefox 93.0?

I have used the add-ons "Download Manager (S3)", "Simple Mass Downloader", and "Turbo Download Manager (3rd edition)". Does using any or all of them offer any advantages?

Thanks.
 
Old 10-18-2021, 04:15 AM   #2
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Have you tried DownThemAll!? I don't use it nowadays, but back when I did I recall it having some interesting capabilities.
 
Old 10-18-2021, 06:08 AM   #3
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It sounds like you're asking us to search for those plugins, read the authors description, and tell you what it says?

If that's not the case, you may want to be more precise.

 
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Old 10-19-2021, 07:40 AM   #4
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I was hoping/expecting that experts who know the nuts and bolts of how Firefox downloads things would give their opinions.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 07:48 AM   #5
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You'll have to suit yourself on that. curl and wget are the best downloaders that I know of, and using them forces one to learn how web pages work. How content is generated and delivered on a web page. Learning how something works is more important than the tool one uses to do something. Using a tool that magically does something without you knowing how it works, not that profitable.
 
Old 10-19-2021, 08:11 AM   #6
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I was hoping/expecting that experts who know the nuts and bolts of how Firefox downloads things would give their opinions.
Totally agree with boughtonp. You've also asked about plugins for Firefox for years at this point.
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ed-4175701192/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...bm-4175699868/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ox-4175631589/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...tc-4175632054/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...sv-4175680262/

Why, exactly, do you need the 'nuts and bolts' of how programs work, to determine if it's worth using??? If the plugin does what you want/need it to do, then for you, *IT IS WORTH USING*. Because unless you want to learn programming, then download the source code for things (when it's available), and analyze it, there's little point...pick something that works for you...use it.

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Old 10-24-2021, 09:52 AM   #7
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Try to be polite please.

I have often downloaded a 400mb file to find that at the last moment when the download is 99.9% or more finished there is an error and it has to be done again and often again before it is finally obtained. The error I saw once was "file not found".

More recently when I have downloaded a similar file with all the above add-ons disabled, there has not been any problem. So it could suggest that the add-ons, either alone or in combination, have a bug.

I was hoping that an expert could say if the add-ons merely use the Firefox built-in downloader, or use their own program for downloading. If the former then not much point in using them.

However I have tried the experiment of pausing a download and then closing Firefox. It was not possible to resume the download after opening Firefox again, but one of the add-ons does allow this.

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Old 10-24-2021, 10:31 AM   #8
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Try to be polite please.
Try to learn from past experiences/advice/knowledge, and ask a meaningful question, please.
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I have often downloaded a 400mb file to find that at the last moment when the download is 99.9% or more finished there is an error and it has to be done again and often again before it is finally obtained. The error I saw once was "file not found".

More recently when I have downloaded a similar file with all the above add-ons disabled, there has not been any problem. So it could suggest that the add-ons, either alone or in combination, have a bug.
As with many of your threads, you omit anything that could be meaningful. Saying "downloaded a similar file" means nothing...downloaded HOW? From where? Same site/file? Different site? VPN? TOR? Version/distro of Linux?? Why is it a 'bug', versus the download site being busy? Your 'modified' old DSL router that you 'patched' for security? Can't possibly be those???
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ed-4175698764/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...sp-4175698884/

And disabling add-ons is pointless, if you don't USE the add on to download with.
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I was hoping that an expert could say if the add-ons merely use the Firefox built-in downloader, or use their own program for downloading. If the former then not much point in using them. However I have tried the experiment of pausing a download and then closing Firefox. It was not possible to resume the download after opening Firefox again, but one of the add-ons does allow this.
Back to "not providing details"....which add-on(s) are you talking about? And also back to what boughtonp said...read the program/add-on descriptions, and if you have a question about how they work, then *ASK THE PEOPLE WHO WROTE THEM*. How are we going to know how those add-ons work? If you want to know, then that's research you need to do.

Sorry, but your question is both meaningless and unanswerable. Asking someone else if a thing is 'worth using' is only gong to get their opinion...since you still provide zero details, and now want to change your original question to be "how does some unspecified add-on to some version of Firefox (neither of which I'm going to tell you), work?"?? We don't know, and if you want to know then YOU need to ask the people who wrote them, or look up the documentation yourself. We're not going to do it for you.

Barring any of that, you are 100% able to use your computer and write your OWN downloader that you know is free from bugs and any spyware. You will also have the documentation for it, won't you? Linux gives you compilers, editors, libraries, and access to ALL the docs on how to use them; there is your solution.
 
Old 10-24-2021, 12:29 PM   #9
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I gave up on addons for

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I have often downloaded a 400mb file to find that at the last moment when the download is 99.9% or more finished there is an error and it has to be done again and often again before it is finally obtained. The error I saw once was "file not found".

Code:
wget -c <url goes here>
Solves that problem. But in terminal. Not browser.
 
Old 10-24-2021, 12:34 PM   #10
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Code:
harry@biker:~
$ apt-cache policy curl
curl:
  Installed: 7.64.0-4+deb10u2
  Candidate: 7.64.0-4+deb10u2
  Version table:
     7.74.0-1.2~bpo10+1 100
        100 http://deb.debian.org/debian buster-backports/main amd64 Packages
 *** 7.64.0-4+deb10u2 500
        500 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian buster/main amd64 Packages
        500 http://security.debian.org buster/updates/main amd64 Packages
        100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
Not hard to learn this either

https://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/curl-d...er-linux-unix/
 
Old 10-25-2021, 10:24 PM   #11
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Try to be polite please.
While TB0ne is often just as cantankerous as you, they always remain polite.

And I agree with their analysis of your question, and the questions asked, in all points (post #8).

BTW, FF has been able to resume partial downloads for quite some time now.

Last edited by ondoho; 10-25-2021 at 11:42 PM.
 
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Old 10-25-2021, 10:47 PM   #12
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I just paste the links into the command line and use wget.
 
  


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