ello, just installed suse 9.2, and video wackiness has commenced. just trying to get everthing set up, haven't even touched X yet..

anyway, i just tried to install ATI's new driver, and got this for an error

# rpm -Uh --force fglrx64_6_8_0-8.10.19-1.x86_64.rpm
########################################### [100%]
########################################### [100%]
make.sh: line 46: gcc: command not found
make.sh: line 52: [: !=: unary operator expected
/sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/X11R6/lib64/FGL.renamed.libGL.so.1.2 is too small, not checked.


so .. yea. no idea what that means.

output of lspci..

0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Host Bridge (rev a4)
0000:00:01.0 ISA bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 LPC Bridge (rev f6)
0000:00:01.1 SMBus: nVidia Corporation nForce3 SMBus (rev a4)
0000:00:02.0 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 USB 1.1 (rev a5)
0000:00:02.1 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 USB 1.1 (rev a5)
0000:00:02.2 USB Controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 USB 2.0 (rev a2)
0000:00:05.0 Ethernet controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Ethernet (rev a5)
0000:00:06.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation nForce3 Audio (reva2)
0000:00:08.0 IDE interface: nVidia Corporation nForce3 IDE (rev a5)
0000:00:0a.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 PCI Bridge (rev a2)
0000:00:0b.0 PCI bridge: nVidia Corporation nForce3 AGP Bridge (rev a4)
0000:00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
0000:00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
0000:00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
0000:00:18.3 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro]
0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon R350 [Radeon 9800 Pro] (Secondary)
0000:02:05.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems (former Lucent Microelectronics) LT WinModem (rev 02)
0000:02:09.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB43AB22/A IEEE-1394a-2000 Controller (PHY/Link)

so there that is.. no idea why it puts my 9800 as secondary.. i set primary boot to agp in me bios :T what's more confusing is that my onboard video isn't radeon, it's some random intel i810 something or other @_@

and me kernel

2.6.8-24.11-default


any help would be much appreciated, i haven't played WoW since friday *shakes*

hmmz, i just tried to compile enlightenment, and discovered something that error message had me thinking about; i don't have gcc for some reason, or locate.sh lol. i could've sworn i selected "all" when installing last night, is it possible when you use the "eval" version as opposed to pay suse you don't get .. everything you would normally? i thought that was just help desk n support type things. if that's the case how would i get new packages? rpm is kind of new to me.. doesn't make a whole lot of sense, i'm used to portage :T

sounds like you grabbed the suse 9.2 personal edition...it doesn't come with the gcc stuff, you'll need to download that and install it...

edit*

oops, my mistake, suse has an eval version of pro...
open YAST and choose install/remove software, and search for gcc...it might be on the dvd. i know for some reason suse 9.0 didn't automatically install gimp, even though i chose full install.
if it's not there, you can probably find it at someplace like

http://www.rpmseek.com

you'll just need to download the rpms, and install those either using YAST or in terminal as root using the command:

# rpm -ivh <packagename>.rpm

hi,

this definitely looks like a case of the development tools not being installed... i've just installed the new download edition of 9.2 pro on a machine, and by default, gcc etc isn't installed - annoying.

and while you're installing gcc, you'll also want to install the kernel source package...

have fun installing the ATI driver (not!) - horrible thing, nVidia much better (/rant over ;-)

are the compiling tools and the kernel source included with the download? or are they separate that you have to hunt down?

hi,

they should be included... i installed 9.2 pro from a magazine cover disk, and the necessary files were on the disk. what version of the distro are you using?

if you're using 'pro', it should just be a case of firing up YaST and installing from your disk set.

i think i'm waiting for the same magazine you scored your dvd from...but it's not in stores yet, near me anyways.
i was starting to doubt whether or not i wanted to bother, but if they're on the dvd, then i'm up for it

aha, ok - well, it's worth the wait! it isn't quite the 'full' pro version (some commercial apps missing), but it isn't bad at all - some software is conspicuous by its absence in contrast to a proper 'purchased' copy (i used to use 8.2 & 9.0 pro), but overall it's a very fair deal.

you'll certainly want to do some googling for extra software repositories - here's one to get you going:

http://packman.links2linux.org/

k yea, i didn't properly install everything when i put the system in last night. that's taken care of now, have gcc n what not. haven't changed the kernel yet though

but i just tried to put the driver in again, and i'm still getting this error

/sbin/ldconfig: File /usr/X11R6/lib64/FGL.renamed.libGL.so.1.2 is too small, not checked.

hmm, i just installed Xfree86 due to ati's driver needing it.. but i'm still getting that same error as above..

also, when i try and compile enlightenment i'm getting this error

WARNING: Enlightenment needs a system with libesd.so (esound)
0.2.17 or higher to use sound support.
Enlightenment can use EsounD (ESD) to be installed to compile.
Sound will be disabled in this binary. If you ever want sound
You will need to get and install EsounD then recompile Enlightenment.
configure: WARNING: Warning: no EsounD detected.
checking for imlib_create_image in -lImlib2... no
configure: error: Fatal Error: no Imlib2 detected.

but you can see i have it in there ...

linux:/home/jim/Documents/enlightenment-0.16.7.1 # ls
. config COPYING INSTALL mkinstalldirs
.. config.guess depcomp install-sh NEWS
ABOUT-NLS config.h.in dox intl po
acinclude.m4 config.log eesh Makefile.am README
aclocal.m4 config.rpath epp Makefile.in sample-scripts
AUTHORS config.sub e.spec man scripts
ChangeLog configure FAQ misc src
COMPLIANCE configure.in imlib2-1.2.0 missing themes


where should i put it? i really don't like kde -_-

*sigh* talkin to myself here apparently.. but when i do glxinfo now i'm getting

linux:~ # glxinfo
Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
Xlib: No protocol specified

Error: unable to open display (null)

cool huh?

please try ATI driver fglrx-3.14-6.1.i586.rpm
that works for me (using SuSE 9.1)
but first u must install :
+make
+gcc
+kernel-source

Getting the ATI fglrx drivers can be a real pain to someone new to linux, that said it is not too hard, and most people should be able to do it, with a little help. So, here's a step-by-step tutorial on getting X up and running with ATI's drivers. All commands should be executed at the command line (without X running, to be safe) and text in brackets ( [ ] ) should be replaced with text appropriate to your system. I assume that by reading this tutorial, you are running Linux on your computer, with some sort of X system installed, have a ATI video card, and have a monitor (duh).

1) Update XFree86 drivers

# rpm -Uhv fglrx*.rpm


2) Update kernel module

* prepare kernel module build

- install the following packages with YaST:
+ kernel-source
+ make
+ gcc
- use YaST Online Update (YOU) and - if available - select the
kernel patch to make sure that the kernel sources match the
current running kernel
- configure the kernel sources
# cd /usr/src/linux
# rm -f .config
# make cloneconfig
# make prepare-all (only for kernel-source >= 2.6.5-7.75)
- remove kernel module sources
# rm -rf /usr/src/kernel-modules/fglrx

* install kernel module source

# rpm -Uhv km_fglrx*.rpm

* compile kernel module sources

# cd /usr/src/kernel-modules/fglrx
# KERNEL_SOURCE=/usr/src/linux make modules
# KERNEL_SOURCE=/usr/src/linux make install
# depmod -a


3) Configure X11

# sax2 -r -m 0=fglrx -b /usr/X11R6/lib/sax/profile/firegl


4) Enable 3D support

* edit /etc/X11/XF86Config with your favorite editor

- add

Load "dri"

to Section "Module"


5) Enable TV-out support

* edit /etc/X11/XF86Config with your favorite editor

- add

Option "NoTV" "no"
Option "TVStandard" "PAL-D"

to Section "Device"

NOTE: PAL-D is only one example of several TV Standards. The
following are available for configuration:

NTSC-M
NTSC-N
NTSC-JPN
PAL-B
PAL-D
PAL-G
PAL-H
PAL-I
PAL-K
PAL-L
PAL-N
PAL-M
PAL-SCART
PAL-CN
PAL-K1


5) Known Issues

- driver only supports 24bit color depth
- enabling of 3D support through SaX2 does not work
- driver cannot be used on AMD64 architecture
- kernel agp support for SiS 648 chipsets seems to be broken. Use

Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "yes"

(instead of Option "UseInternalAGPGART" "no") in Section "Device" of
/etc/X11/XF86Config to use the builtin agp support of the "fglrx"
kernel module. Remove "06" from COLDPLUG_PCI_CLASSES_WHITELIST in
/etc/sysconfig/hotplug. Reboot your machine. In some cases Xserver
needs to be started twice before internal agp support works.


I succes with this method........

thank you very much for your post, i'm going to try it out later today... but are you SURE about this?

- driver cannot be used on AMD64 architecture ???????? i could've swore it was supported :'(

k a few questions ..

first of all, with the ATI drivers.. it says you must be in 24 bit color for them to work. my problem is until the drivers are in my systems running off it's onboard video.. which suses install (hotplug i assume) insists is a radeon 350r or something like that, when in fact it's an intel i810 chip. and that chip won't do 24 bit color, so how is that gonna sort itself out?

also with the driver.. it says for x86_64 systems, if using x11r6 .. you must also have xfree86 in there.. but there's drivers for both. so do i install both drivers??

installing things is my third question. in trying to fix this last night.. i dl'd xfree.. and got it in there.. but it flogged my system, x wont start now (re-installing suse as i type this) so my question is, when i dl a new .src ... where do i put them? i've just been putting everything in /home/user/Documents but i don't think that's right. like when i tried to put enlightenment in (see above post) it keeps saying that imlib2 isn't present, but it IS. i don't know where to put things, i tried moving it to /root/lib but it still wasn't see'n it. how am i supposed to know where to put things?

and during install.. how come when it's doing it's hardware check, before the gui install screens.. it clearly says "input device: logitech wheelmouse" but when i get to the gui, it's saying intellimouse 3button emulation" and my ACTUAL mouse isn't in the list when i try to change it. on the same front.. when i first noticed it was listing my card as a radeon 350r .. i went into display and tried to change it. i hit "add new device" and pulled down the list.. and just about every single ati card you could think of was there... except mine! it jumped from radeon 9700... to radeon x800. but it KNOWS i have a 9800pro! it says so during system boot!!!

*pant*

also sound doesn't work *sigh* i dunno if alsa didn't go in right.. or it's not see'n my card (onboard ac realtek '97 audio i believe) or what.. but i got no sound.


this is all so frustrating because it's been a week now since i started this, and i REALLY want to have a functioning system.. i WANT to use linux.. but i NEED to play warcraft!!! this would be so much better if i could just learn at my own pace, from inside a functioning system, as opposed to building it.. while i'm still almost totally ignorant about the workings of it.. and every problem i sort out uncovers 4 more.

/rant

sorry. please help T_T