[SOLVED] Update on Debian-Bookworm and Why Did Bookworm Remove Some Packages?

kevinbenko · 07-08-2022, 11:16 AM

OK, everything is fine using Debian-Bookworm (Testing), for now, I have NOT even thought about installing packages from Debian-Sid.

BUT:

I was looking for one of my favorite GUI packages ksysguard, and I discovered it has apparently been deprecated in/for Bookworm.

WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY? WHY?

yeah, I used an infinite loop to run "sensors" every 5 seconds, but it is not the same as ksysguard.

Does anyone tell me of a similar GUI application that can give me graphical representation that gave me the same functionality on ksysguard?

Thank you for your time, and have a great day!

boughtonp · 07-08-2022, 11:48 AM

The reason for Debian package removal is always available via the Debian tracker: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/INSERT_PACKAGE_HERE

So for ksysguard one would go to https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/ksysguard and read through the news to see [2021-11-02]ksysguard REMOVED from testing (Debian testing watch) which further points to a bug #998217 "RM: ksysguard/4:5.21.5-2" where the removal was requested for the following reason:

Quote:

Originally Posted by https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=998217

ksysguard is not updated to 5.23, but might be in the future.
For now it blocks plasma 5.23 transition to testing.
Please remove ksysguard from testing. In case there is a new
release compatible with Plasma 5.23, it will be again uploaded.

i.e. ksysguard was removed from KDE Plasma - by KDE, not by Debian - and thus Debian needed to remove it to allow upgrading Plasma to 5.23

It would be nice if it was similarly easy to discover what KDE have replaced it with, but checking changelogs and release announcements didn't appear to mention its removal.

After a bit of searching, I found a blog article referencing "Plasma System Monitor", which appears to be the replacement. (Probably looking through Plasma menus would have revealed that.)

Timothy Miller · 07-08-2022, 09:17 PM

Yes, plasma-systemmonitor replaces ksysguard. No distribution supporting plasma 5.23 or newer has Ksysguard since as boughtonp points out, it wasn't updated, as the KDE developers abandoned it for plasma-systemmonitor, which includes all the information that ksysguard gave you, but then a significant amount more as well.

Debian6to11 · 07-09-2022, 12:46 AM

ksysguard is about the same as gnome-system-monitor.
You can try installing the later but,
1. It might not be compatible as well.
2. You might pull some packages from the gnome environment that you may not like.

kevinbenko · 07-09-2022, 09:00 AM

boughtonp and Debian6to11

Thank you!

Calling this [solved]

To everyone who responded have a fantastic day!