#!++ PLUS
I found this thing on Distroloss as "waiting"
What a tidy Openbox-Debian somewhat similar to Bunsen and #!++ but put together even better.
Here's what all I run here
#!++ 2021--Bullseye
Bunsen
Mabox
Sparky Openbox rolling
Antix rox/ice
MX21
Bento (an Openboxed Antix19)

These are all on ssd's with various partitions.

If Lilidog gets proper exposure it will outrun all of those in popularity.

Years and years ago I ran Saline along side Vector on GIANT 6 and 10 or so gig spinners and a 233 Celery so I've been at this a lil while.

The last time I was impressed as much was with Xandros "professional" and Stormix-Debian...way back when.

Stuff it on a usb(live) and have a ride.

DISCLAMER: Sadly, I wan't involved with this one. I hope to be soon
If you aren't impressed you never will be .
My first boot on my main machine is #!++ ,self tweaked(heavily).
This critter is super similar right out of the gate

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/files/

I partly witnessed as sleekmason developed this, and they did a really good job.
But please remember that this is a one-developer distro.
They worked on it for a few months between end of 2020 and beginning of 2021, and the code hasn't changed since then.
Although it looks like they constantly rebuild the .ISOs and the documentation and answer help requests.

Personally, I have learned to build my own from scratch instead of always looking for the perfect minimal/lightweight distro, but I have some respect for this one.

Man, the screenshots are really pretty. I helped a little with the theming

I suppose I need to correct this. Sadly.

1. Lilidog has been under CONSTANT development since its beginning, Logging over 650 commits on github not counting the initial 250 or so that were lost due to my own hiccup. https://github.com/sleekmason/Lilidog

2. Lilidog started as an lxde build, (which uses openbox) and has developed from that base. It is not based on anyone else's distro except Debian.

3. Here are the list of updates since it's inclusion on Sourceforge. Please note that they have been WEEKLY for MONTHS, with a complete listing of what was accomplished. https://sourceforge.net/p/lilidog/di...ad/89d02e41c9/

4. No, you most certainly did NOT help me with the theming. Literally everything from the GTK themes, which were EDITED BY HAND btw, and the Openbox themes, wallpapers, and other settings, including the icons used in the panel, were all created by ME, with Zero help from anyone else. Period. Please explain what you are talking about.

The next update (after the last 8 days ago), will include:

Bullseye Point release 11.3
Added different sound options to Dunst notifications - enable through toggles.
Added 'Sharpen image with copy' dialog to Thunar right-click actions
Improved Random Background changer with more options - enable through toggles.
Changed 'selection' in the Lilidog-slate Geany theme for better visibility.

This will come out shortly after the next point release on the 26th.

I do not appreciate your disparagement of my work, the suggestion that one person wouldn't/couldn't do as well as some rambling team of people, or your attempt to insinuate yourself into Lilidog's development.
Since you build your own, why not share what you have done instead?

Good day, sleekmason

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So first of all sorry, my statement that you haven't worked on this since the beginning of 2021 is clearly wrong and I am now not sure where it came from - in my weak defence I can only say that I'm not familiar with sourceforge because that's where I looked.

Apart from that I think you're way overreacting, at no point was I disparaging your project, quite the opposite if you re-read my 1st and last sentence.

I guess I wanted to reply to OP's sentence "If Lilidog gets proper exposure it will outrun all of those in popularity", which I find way too grand considering he's comparing to long-running succesful projects like AntiX. Sorry if you see that as personal criticism, that wasn't my intention.
But I do stand by the paradigm that a distro needs ~ 10 years "in the field" before I consider it. And these are always developed by a team, not a single person. Again, not dissing your work, but what if you do get the exposure, and the work gets too much? Or you get sick, or have twins and are way too busy elsewhere?
No, I'm a firm believer in teamwork as an integral part of FOSS, and there's plenty of cases proving me right, both in the positive and in the negative.
Which is one reason why i do NOT spin and publish my own "distro".
I contribute in other ways, though.

Again, not to dis your work in any way! I admire the resilience required to be able to put something like that out.

About your point 4.: I very much remember the conversations on bunsenlabs forums where you asked for help with various things, and received it. That does not mean I'm insinuating myself into your project!

No. Just. No. Maybe you can convince others with your bull, but I see right through you.

19,000 comments. You obviously have no business commenting on anyone's work, given you don't understand the basics of checking a github page, or Sourceforge before spouting off.

What you did is character assassination. Both for me and Lilidog. What If I hadn't checked here and people believed the LIES you wrote. Your bullshit about making a mistake doesn't really fly with someone who is supposed to be a 'guru', now does it.

I'm pretty angry about this with good reason. I think the moderators should certainly look at what else you have been posting. Is this how you HELP people?

And No! You said you helped with the theming. More LIES. Who are you on Bunsenlabs? You don't know anything about my relationship with any distro I frequent, and simply looking to see where I got my start gives you no right to comment about anything I've built. Who do you think you are?? Your weak excuses for your behavior are just that.

As far as I am concerned, you should be kicked off this forum for that alone. Moderators? Do you allow people to pull this?

10 years eh? And yet you haven't even been on here for ten years. This is a joke. I'm done here.

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^ I know who you are now, and I am deeply disappointed with your actions. You have no excuse.

You know full well to check github, and certainly know about Sourceforge. That, and with over 19,000 comments, you certainly knew exactly what you were doing when you attempted to discredit me. For shame.

That you would personally try to undercut my work and say the things you did is just sad. Very very sad.

Let's have the off-topic disagreement discussion not continue here.

The thread is not a question but a complimentary discussion about a distro, and that is on-topic. I'd rather not have to close the thread.

Let's bear in mind that while it is fine to have discussions about technical topics members are very much aware that LQ has several rules about:

• Not derailing the thread conversation.
• Posting on-topic.
• Being respectful when disagreeing.

Let's avoid posts which "could" be interpreted in multiple manners as well and try to be very clear as you post.

If there's a desire to discuss further, the user to user PM system is available, I am available for PMs, as is Jeremy.

Some suggestions for Lilidog.

Enable the ‘Quick filter’ function in Synaptic package manager, apt-xapian-index.

Add option to set auto login.

Add shade button to window decorations.

Add option to include the backport repo.

All windows open on the primary monitor. On other similar distros, the window opens on the monitor it was last used on.

And also a question. Lilidog uses gnome-screenshot in stead of xfce4-screenshooter. Curious why that choice.

What sets the keybinds. (okay two questions)

xfce4-keyboard-shortcuts lists xfce4-screenshotter as the target for PrtSc. Anyway, add the -i flag to gnome-screenshot triggered by PrtSc to get the dialog giving users more options.

As a general overall observation, things seem more complicated (sophisticated ?) than they might need to be. Probably because they're over my head. Example tint2 and fbpanel? Sometimes devs can't resist over-tinkering with things.

I remember when you were offering users to build LD from your repo. And I said, "Drop an ISO, and I'll be all over it." LD has come a long way and it's a massive achievement. You can be proud of all you've accomplished. LD is a pleasure to use; lots of hand holding for those who need it, and great options for power users.

8bit

I absolutely love feedback! Thank you so much!

Those all look like good ideas to me, and should hopefully be easy to implement. I don't see why everything you mentioned shouldn't be in the build after this next one if I am able.

As far as Bullseye backports go, we are already good! Look in menu -> Utilities -> Extras for the 'backports installer' Which, just adds the backports and updates, but also gives an option to add the Debian Fast Track repos as well. These in turn will allow you to install Virtualbox directly. See the installer end for the line to do just that.

Heh, The screenshot choice Was simply the best I could see at the time and stuck with it. It certainly looks like some adjustments here would help. Confusing options won't help anybody.

FBpanel is indeed a remnant of when I started first building Lilidog. I had created a "Monster" version of the panel using both tint2 and FBpanel. I always thought FBpanel was pretty neat with the way it showed the active windows in the panel. This, as part of a build that allowed to toggle between four window managers on the fly. It was a beast of a build Anyway, yeah, the fbpanel toggle option needs to go too.

Another thought I had as well is about removing Wbar. (Toggles menu). It does not currently serve any purpose. I had originally thought to use it with some sort of welcome dialog, but wound up implementing Yad for that. So, I left it as an easy way for folks to put icons on their desktop without using Pcmanfm or Rox. The question then is whether or not it is truly useful or just another distracting menu entry?

On anything that seems complicated or just plain strange, please let me know. Some difficulties in this area may be due to the number of options I provide in different ways to accomplish the same goals, and others I'm sure are because as I add items of interest, I don't really think about the sheer quantity of options, and how that can be overwhelming. It can for me anyway. A thought I can offer is that everything should be foolproof to the extent of working within the confines of the same program.

What this means is that you don't have to worry about the 'Wallpaper changer" interfering with the ability to set random wallpapers, or to flip through them using either the keybind super + b, or the 'Quick Flip' feature of the Random background dialog, or by right-clicking and setting the wallpapers through Thunar, and vice versa. Nothing should ever conflict . . in theory. Lol. You should be able to use any item before, after, or during the use of any other. Anyway, if something is a bother, let me know and I will see if there is another way to make it happen . . . better!

Last, thank you for your kind words. It has been about the most fun ever coming up with new options and ideas. Being able to share the end result is a humbling, wonderful thing. I am so glad that others find Lilidog useful. Look for the improvements you mentioned in the release after this next, which should be out in just the next few days. I will update here as well as soon as the images are available.

New Release now available!

Both the regular amd64 and the the i386 images are uploaded and available Here: https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/
The minimal image is currently uploading, and should be available soon.

Here is what is new:

Bullseye Point release 11.3 - Many security fixes and updates.
Added different sound options to Dunst notifications - Enable through toggles.
Added 'Sharpen image with copy' dialog to Thunar right-click actions when right-clicking on an image.
Improved Random Background changer with more options - enable through toggles, and look for the tray icom in the panel.
Changed 'selection' in the Lilidog-Slate Geany theme for better visibility.
Adjusted tint2 tray to 'ascending' from 'descending' icon placement, and adjusted the transparency thereof.

Please let me know if you have any issues.

New releases now available. https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/

Whats new:

Added switch to use Auto Login. Look in "Toggles" for the menu selection.
Added an installer for the Discord AppImage.
Change Monitor layout for better window settings.
Added shade button to the Openbox window frames.
Added xfce4-screenshooter to replace gnome-screenshot.
removed the option for FB panel from the menu. Config still available in github.
added xapian index for the Synaptic Package Manager quick search feature. (Only tested in vm)
Changed Lilidog to use a numbering scheme of year/month (Lilidog-22.04-amd64)
Added some necessary and/or recommended packages.
updated build conky to April 1st.

New release Lilidog-22.05-amd64 now available. https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/

Created Jgmenu options dialog for different icon themes, on/off, and font size for the default font.
Created Battery toggle for the Tint2 panel. Located in the tint2 panel settings and Toggles menu.
Created battery icon auto remover for desktops. Toggle option still available.
Changed out all Geany themes to a better code base, allowing for better color control and easier file editing.
Created 4 new installers for different browsers. Firefox, Chromium, Midori, and Lynx.
Created 4 new icon theme installers for Breeze, Faenza, Paper, and Numix.
Created Three new GTK Themes. Dark-Earth, Dark-Drow, and Dragon.
Created Three new OpenBox themes to match the new GTK themes.
Created three new Geany themes to match the new GTK themes.
Created three new terminal themes to match the GTK themes.
Reworked Lilidog-slate (main theme) for better button and tab colors, transitions, and other small fixes.
Adjusted all main themes to work with notify.d (xfce4 notifications), for different desktop environments.
Created options for sound, Conky, and jgmenu for the Quick theme changer dialogs.
Renamed Lilidog-Dark to "denim".
Corrected Dmenu-apps "writer" path from abiword to libreoffice, and added some addiional options. Alt + F3 to test.
Reworked all Geany themes into a better base format with additional code colors.
Changed out several icons in the menu to better reflect the programs associated.
Changed scrollbar visuals for every theme to better adapt for those who want to disable overlay scrollbars.
Changed Dunst notification settings to better reflect the overall Lilidog theme.
Added an options configuration file for the random background changer located in ~/.config.
Changed notifications in several scripts to use the color green.
Changed line height in jgmenu to shrink the size a bit. (closer to Openbox default).
Changed several minor theme elements in all themes for better visability.
Created new installer splash screen to lose the gradient. (Gradients have issues on some screens).
Created new boot splash to better reflect the color scheme.
Changed out Lightdm wallpaper to Tribare. (problems with logo off the edge on some screens).
Fixed the emergency default theme settings For the "back to default" button.
Created one new wallpaper (Darkslate), and updated two more for better color adaption.
Removed battery indicator from Conky-shortcuts and Conky-full. (Code commented).
Removed fbpanel configuration from menu.
Added Geany to Quick Grab menu for the amd64 full version and the i386 version.
Added adwaita theme set for alternative use.
Added arrow key actions to all yad scripts for selection use.
Changed transition time for button presses in Pragha to match opther system buttons.
Corrected tab colors for alternative terminals, other programs.
Switched Openbox window placement to "monitor with the mouse".
Switched the Openbox primary monitor setting to the "active" monitor.
Changed iso image date and conky build date to May 01 2022.
Removed redundant lines from openbox autostart.
Added ath9 frmware to the installer.
Added Debian documentation.

New release of Lilidog:

https://sourceforge.net/projects/lil...iles/Releases/

Thanks for the heads up! I will download it and check it out!

New release Lilidog-amd64-22.6.20 https://sourceforge.net/projects/lilidog/

Created two new themes. Oceanic and Crimson.
Created Openbox themes, Geany themes, and xfce4-terminal themes to match Oceanic and Crimson.
Changed the primary theme to Oceanic.
Created a yad/popup dialog for the "Extras" installers located in the Utilities menu.
Several small fixes.
Added Mousepad back in, but not as the primary editor.