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Lenovo Laptop > Unable to access BIOS / install Linux properly >
Hi there Guys.
I was really hoping that you could help me with an issue I've been dealing with.
Background:
I'm trying to help a friend with their old laptop.
It was originally running Windows 8, then Windows 10.
They REALLY want to play an old Windows XP game (Zoo Tycoon 2).
My intention was to:
1. Wipe the HDD
2. Install Linux (Ubuntu 22.04 LTS)
3. Intall WINE
4. Install the game.
However, there are some complications with this -
The Laptop's keyboard and trackpad are unresponsive / don't work.
Although plugging in an external keyboard and mouse works well.
Issue:
I cannot access the BIOS / EUFI on the laptop.
I cannot access secure boot.
Troubleshooting / Steps already taken:
1. I have rebooted the laptop (at least 15+ times) trying various different ways
to access the BIOS (Using the F2 / F12 keys) and using the dedicated
novo key (located near the power button).
N.B. I cannot press Fn+F2 as I'm using an external keyboard.
Each time I get to the BIOS selection screen - Chosing any option
(BIOS / Boot selection / etc, etc). will make the laptop boot into the main OS
(Windows 10).
It seems nothing will let me access / enter the BIOS.
2. Removed the HDD from the laptop and connected it to my HDD reader on my own PC.
3. Booted into a live version of Ubuntu 22.04, then using Kparted
deleted the main Windows C: drive and the data drive
However I decided to leave the Windows recovery partitions, EFI, and some other
extra Windows partions still there (in case I need to restore Windows).
4. I then installed Ubuntu 22.04 to the laptopns HDD
Using seperate / (300 GB) and /home (500 GB) partions.
5. Putting the HDD back into the Laptop, it failed to boot into Linux.
But still seeing the Windows recovery partions, attempts to restore the Windows 8
OS back onto the HDD.
6. Tried numerous settings / advanced settings from a basic recovery screen
and it still will not allow be to access the BIOS.
Questions:
1. How can I access the BIOS / EUFI ?
2. If I can get into the BIOS, do I need to disable secure boot, to allow me
to install other OS's ?
3. Do I need to re-install Windows 8, to allow me to disable secure boot ?
4. Is there any other way to access and disable secure boot via Linux / Live CD / USB ?
5. Is there anything else that I need to do, or be aware of. In order to fix
this and get Linux installed correctly ?
This is why I don't like laptops, especially modern laptops. Desktop you can just open up and tear out the offending part.
Based on your post, it's not clear if the keyboard works at all when it finished booting?
To at least try to answer some of those:
1. Usually, F2 or Del key. Only once, when the vendor logo first shows up. Careful not to hold the key down, because it can then fail to register.
2. Probably. Depends on what other OS, some work with secure boot on, some don't.
3. No. It's obsolete OS, unsupported by the vendor.
4. There might be a way to flash another firmware image to it, but not if you can't access the firmware to make it boot from CD/USB.
5. I know some tech repair guys, they're legally required to log serial numbers though. But I guess if it's really a broken BIOS you could open it up and look for CMOS reset pins.
Download the manual and put into Documents for reading later.
I am dealing with IBM T530 to get running right. Fixed charging issue. Next is reboot. These new bios settings are a head ache figuring out. My reboot problem is not operating system caused. Laptop shuts down. Reboots. Gets stuck on intel logo. No input taken from F12 or Esc keys. Tried F2 even. Never reach grub screen. Just that intel logo screen and a hard shutdown. Boots OK if shutdown is picked.
Fixed charging issue. Next is reboot. These new bios settings are a head ache figuring out. My reboot problem is not operating system caused. Laptop shuts down. Reboots. Gets stuck on intel logo. No input taken from F12 or Esc keys. Tried F2 even. Never reach grub screen. Just that intel logo screen and a hard shutdown. Boots OK if shutdown is picked.
Giving up for tonight.
That sounds rather like what my Lenovo used to do with the old hard drive. Normal boot and shutdown worked, reboot didn't. It always froze, either at the logo stage like yours or while loading the kernel. No other untoward symptoms. Then, quite by accident, I discovered that the drive was about to fail (thank you, AntiX installer!) and managed to change it to a new ssd. Now it reboots without problems.
So, I have managed to get Linux installed onto this Laptop
I had to use brute force and ignorance (not usually recommended) in these matters.
However I was fed up with secure boot making things much more difficult than
necessary.
In the end, I plugged the laptop's HDD, into my main PC via an external HD reader.
I deleted all the partitions on the laptop's HDD (even the hidden partitions and
the Windows recovery partitions), as these were preventing me from doing anything
useful by continually trying to boot into the Windows recovery process.
I then re-installed the HDD into the laptop, managed to boot from my Ventoy USB
stick, and did a fresh install of Linux.
I still cannot get access to the BIOS / EUFI.
I think secure boot is hampering my efforts.
I've then been able to download and install some Linux apps and Lutris, as this appears
to have the best chance of installing the game (Zoo Tycoon 2).
Interesting, reddit also has this on installing Zoo Tycoon 2 on windows 11 which would most likely work on windows 10.
Did you ever try to google to verify the BIOS key for the laptop? My Lenovo laptop was F2 to get into BIOS. F12 would bring up a boot menu, useful after you have a USB plugged in.
I did try the dedicated novo BIOS physical key (multiple) times
each with the same result = The Blue BIOS dialogue box pops up, however
any selection you make is ignored, BIOS is never loaded and the OS begins to boot.
However I do have fantastic news !
I finally managed to get Zoo Tycoon 2 installed with the help of the Play On Linux app.
I followed the instructions (carefully, as there is 1 point you have to un-check
then "Once installed, run game" box). However the helper install scripts from POL
did a fantastic job, and I was able to get the game installed on my friends laptop.
She's over the moon and playing the game happily now !
Thanks to everyone for their help and advice, in solving these issues.
Its VERY much appreciated !
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