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Old 04-18-2021, 08:21 AM   #1
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Question is Linux Bible from Negus the best book for starters who want to get into hacking?


I have been using windows WSL for a year now and want to switch to the Linux system. Before doing that, I wanted to get a solid foundations (avoid just googling around to get things solved - at least for this part now when things are so basic and the subject is so new to me).

The goal is to get into penetration testing and all the hacking stuff.

My strategy until now was to read entirely the book *Linux Bible from Negus*, but I started questioning myself if I would be losing time and therefore I should just get into the hacking books.

Any thoughts from any hacker/linux user that has already read that book?
 
Old 04-18-2021, 01:34 PM   #2
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Doesn't "zhe rulez" explicitly mention hacking...
 
Old 04-18-2021, 01:47 PM   #3
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I read the rules, but i don't know how the post is violating them. For clarity purposes, my post means *ethical hacking*. I'm totally against any type of hacking that isn't ethical and I would like to learn to be a bug hunter.
 
Old 04-18-2021, 11:08 PM   #4
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I don't know about that book, but this is a lot of online books you might want to peruse https://www.linuxtopia.org/ (for free)
 
Old 04-19-2021, 02:28 AM   #5
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The book is not quite up-to-date: the last edition was published in 2015. From its description on Amazon:
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This updated ninth edition covers the latest versions of Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 (RHEL 7), Fedora 21, and Ubuntu 14.04 LTS, and includes new information on cloud computing and development with guidance on Openstack and Cloudforms.
Looks like it's a rather general introduction to Linux, more geared towards getting you ready for RHCE and RHCSA certification exams. You can see its TOC and its Web Companion at Wiley.

The previous, eighth edition of the book on Amazon has the Look inside function, but bear in mind that the 9th edition shifted the focus a bit:
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In previous editions of the Linux Bible, we described many different Linux distributions. While this made the book’s coverage very wide, it did not make it very deep. For that reason, we decided to focus this edition primarily on Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux (which are very similar) and touch on Ubuntu (which gives you a flavor of how such things as software packaging and service management can be done on different Linux distributions).
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Linux Bible, 9th Edition uses Fedora 21 and Red Hat Enterprise Linux 7 for most of the demonstrations and exercises in the book. Using later versions of Fedora and Red Hat Enterprise Linux should work for most cases as well.

Using Ubuntu to follow along with the book will not work consistently. The most common differences relate to package names and packaging tools, as well as techniques for managing services. On occasion, configuration files have different names.
In short, it surely will provide the solid foundation you're seeking, but there are more specific and more up-to-date books about the subject. I don't see anything about this book to recommend it over the others. Actually, if it's your first foray into the Linux world, I'd rather recommend starting with a Debian-based distribution (perhaps, Ubuntu or Linux Mint).
 
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Old 04-19-2021, 05:20 AM   #6
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There is a tenth edition done in 2020 at this link (Amazon) It is useful and you will learn a good bit using it and following along. He recommends a Fedora install or RHEL but the exercises and practice will work on other mainstream Linux distributions.
 
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Old 04-19-2021, 08:51 AM   #7
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I have been using windows WSL for a year now and want to switch to the Linux system. Before doing that, I wanted to get a solid foundations (avoid just googling around to get things solved - at least for this part now when things are so basic and the subject is so new to me).

The goal is to get into penetration testing and all the hacking stuff.

My strategy until now was to read entirely the book *Linux Bible from Negus*, but I started questioning myself if I would be losing time and therefore I should just get into the hacking books. Any thoughts from any hacker/linux user that has already read that book?
I'd suggest you rethink your 'strategy'. You're only going to read a book on Linux?? If you truly want to get into network security/pentesting, you do realize that you need to know about network protocols/weaknesses, the same things for the routers/switches the computers plug in to, along with the various countermeasures that folks employ to make sure their networks are safe, right?? A single book on Linux won't tell you 'all the hacking stuff'. What are you going to do if you encounter a Windows box? Or a Mac? BSD?

Putting "books about network security and pentesting" into Google pulls up a lot of good references. You need to know a LOT of different subjects and disciplines if you want to do this professionally.
 
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Old 04-19-2021, 11:21 AM   #8
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I'd suggest you rethink your 'strategy'. You're only going to read a book on Linux?? If you truly want to get into network security/pentesting, you do realize that you need to know about network protocols/weaknesses, the same things for the routers/switches the computers plug in to, along with the various countermeasures that folks employ to make sure their networks are safe, right?? A single book on Linux won't tell you 'all the hacking stuff'. What are you going to do if you encounter a Windows box? Or a Mac? BSD?

Putting "books about network security and pentesting" into Google pulls up a lot of good references. You need to know a LOT of different subjects and disciplines if you want to do this professionally.
Thanks a lot for your reply.

I'm aware that the subject involves a lot of different areas and I have to read a lot of different books (that's one of the reasons i'm attracted to it). Therefore, I'm not looking for one specific book that will teach me everything, but rather a good starting book (or bookS) that can give me a solid foundation on the subject and then from there I can start increasing my knowledge by googling and reading more specific books. But my first concern is to have a good foundation on the subject (nothing specific or advanced), and then as soon as I have it, I will understand where I should go from there.

I turned to the forum to make sure that the book or books I will be reading are giving me the best value for my money.
 
Old 04-19-2021, 07:14 PM   #9
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This Bible is my #2 choice, after: How Linux Works third edition (coming out in a week).

You won't be wasting your time: you'll avoid 'Kali is NOT for newbies' (scoldings). Also, thoroughly understand http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (and the forum 'stickies', especially about Kali)

Then you can gently start with some pentest books; Amazon ratings can help you decide which. Co-focus on network expertise. Take a look at a couple of network security certifications.

I also suggest virtualbox.org (and distrowatch.com); grab a quick and easy .vdi from OSboxes.org

Welcome to LQ. Best wishes (both on becoming a useful security expert, and avoiding scoldings ).
 
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Old 04-19-2021, 10:58 PM   #10
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If you want to learn "ethical" hacking play the various wargames that are available... IE.. hackerslab, try2hack, overthewire , hackthisbox and others..
 
Old 04-19-2021, 11:35 PM   #11
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I took that book out of the library (like other general books you can skip through a lot of it) most importantly got me started on forming my own opinions from the software it "gave."

Teachers and books tell tools what to think tho from there some evolve!

https://www.trees.com/gardening-and-...uaponics-books
https://aquaponicslab.org/partnerships/attachment/gpl/
 
Old 04-21-2021, 12:52 PM   #12
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This Bible is my #2 choice, after: How Linux Works third edition (coming out in a week).

You won't be wasting your time: you'll avoid 'Kali is NOT for newbies' (scoldings). Also, thoroughly understand http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html (and the forum 'stickies', especially about Kali)

Then you can gently start with some pentest books; Amazon ratings can help you decide which. Co-focus on network expertise. Take a look at a couple of network security certifications.

I also suggest virtualbox.org (and distrowatch.com); grab a quick and easy .vdi from OSboxes.org

Welcome to LQ. Best wishes (both on becoming a useful security expert, and avoiding scoldings ).
Thanks a lot for your answer. Almost the only one that gets straight to the point here. Really appreciate it.
 
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Old 04-21-2021, 08:38 PM   #13
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I have it (as alluded to in my post above) and love reading it. I read almost 85 pages the first day and had fun doing the quizzes and exercises. I would recommend it.
 
Old 04-25-2021, 11:44 AM   #14
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Being that it's open source, there's a lot of free documentation and books on the subject man? All puns aside we should put women equal.

How about( old but good:) http://coewww.rutgers.edu/www1/linux...ute/index.html

also fun(++;) http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/5768


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Old 04-26-2021, 12:40 AM   #15
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Never heard of the book. The best place to start is here - well I am little flattering. Just ask right questions and won't allow people to go off-topic.
 
  


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