LinuxQuestions.org
Latest LQ Deal: Latest LQ Deals
Home Forums Tutorials Articles Register
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie
User Name
Password
Linux - Newbie This Linux forum is for members that are new to Linux.
Just starting out and have a question? If it is not in the man pages or the how-to's this is the place!

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 02-05-2016, 05:25 AM   #1
Higgsboson
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2014
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian 8 Cinnamon/Xfce/gnome classic Debian live usb
Posts: 508

Rep: Reputation: 50
Installing debian Jessie from dvd need help with the installer


I want to install debian 8.2.0 (Jessie) from a dvd onto my hard drive. I haven't done this before, so I have a few questions:

1. If I get a dvd from any retailer on ebay, how do I know it's legit? Is there a 'sha1sum' check I can do after installation to ensure I have the legit Jessie without any extra software (if you know what I mean)?

2. I've watched a youtube tutorial on how to install from disk (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBULhyh48cg). I have prepared my hdd with a partition for the OS to be installed. So on the 'debian installer boot menu' under the title 'partition disks' (2:44 on the vid), should I choose the option 'manual' (as opposed to 'guided-use entire disk/guided use entire disk and setup LVM/guided-use entire disk and setup encrypted LVM)? Or should I select 'guided-use entire disk?

3. If I want encrypted LVM, I believe I need a seperate /boot partition which I haven't created. However, can anyone please advise the importance of LVM and encrypted LVM and if most people use it?

4. On the 'software selection' page, what is 'print server' and 'SSH server'? I will want to use a printer, so do I need to select 'print server'?

5. I have GRUB already installed on my machine using 2 hdd. So on the 'install GRUB...' page I can safely select 'no'. Is that correct?
I presume though I may have to use the 'update grub' cmd after installation so the new install can be seen.

Thank you in advance.
 
Old 02-05-2016, 05:35 AM   #2
un1x
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2015
Posts: 645

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
install this >>> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ar-4175568295/
 
Old 02-05-2016, 05:42 AM   #3
Higgsboson
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2014
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian 8 Cinnamon/Xfce/gnome classic Debian live usb
Posts: 508

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by un1x View Post
Thanks for the advertisement. Good luck with that.
 
Old 02-05-2016, 07:03 AM   #4
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgsboson View Post
I want to install debian 8.2.0 (Jessie) from a dvd onto my hard drive. I haven't done this before, so I have a few questions:

1. If I get a dvd from any retailer on ebay, how do I know it's legit? Is there a 'sha1sum' check I can do after installation to ensure I have the legit Jessie without any extra software (if you know what I mean)?
if you can download it for free then why pay a ebay retailer -- if you're going to give money for it - I'd personally give the money directy to Debain to help support them, not some retailer that is trying to make money off of something he got for free, then turns around and makes a profit off it.

then just brun it to a USB Stick
 
Old 02-05-2016, 07:43 AM   #5
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgsboson View Post
Thanks for the advertisement. Good luck with that.
@un1x as well

I just downloaded that and fired it up in VBox.. neet -- debian base/openbox/tint2? or jwm? (live version startup) reguardless its setup rather nicely I must say... Bravo !

MOdded:

I just installed it on VBOx

upon first start-up: reminded me of #! (CrunchBang) but this has a twist, more wm/dt to choose from. it looks to be better done then the others that took over it #! forum and made there own version of #! then re-named it.

Looks like who ever did this one stripped out all of the non-nessasary software that just takes up space. (which, btw, can be installed on the users command, if they want it.)

benifits makes for a better ligher Distro in saving hard drive space for items that the uses wants to use it for.

this one:
iso = 462MB

straight Debian first DVD iso just to get it installed and running:
3.7GB

a nice difference

Last edited by BW-userx; 02-05-2016 at 08:26 AM.
 
Old 02-05-2016, 09:21 AM   #6
yancek
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Apr 2008
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu, PCLinux,
Posts: 10,547

Rep: Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498
Quote:
If I get a dvd from any retailer on ebay, how do I know it's legit?
You don't so download from the Debian site below which also has a number of links explaining installing whichever version you download.

https://www.debian.org/distrib/

Installing using the "manual" option will give you control and the ability to create/format partitions. The other options I believe will overwrite everything on the disk, if that's what you want.

An explanation of LVM at the link below. I doubt many people using a personal computer for home use will use LVM. Up to you.

As for installing Grub, you might indicate which other operating system you have which contains Grub and which Grub version is it. If you don't install Grub with Debian, you will have to update the Grub on the other OS to include the Debian after the install. Obviously, the Grub currently installed isn't going to be aware that you have installed another system until it checks the drive with the grub-mkconfig command.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 02-05-2016, 09:46 AM   #7
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by yancek View Post
As for installing Grub, you might indicate which other operating system you have which contains Grub and which Grub version is it. If you don't install Grub with Debian, you will have to update the Grub on the other OS to include the Debian after the install. Obviously, the Grub currently installed isn't going to be aware that you have installed another system until it checks the drive with the grub-mkconfig command.
It has been my experience, whenever I've gone dual boot, or tri-boot or more, and do not allow that last OS to install a boot loader I run into problems of not being able to boot into any OS. I then just started allowing it to install grub on MBR no matter what ( that is what I always use, MBR) then if I want, I or one can just reinstall grub with which ever distro that they want to have control the booting of all of the OS's installed on the system. just remeber to update it after re-installing it from a different OS on the system.
 
Old 02-05-2016, 01:03 PM   #8
ardvark71
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Feb 2015
Location: USA
Distribution: Lubuntu 14.04, 22.04, Windows 8.1 and 10
Posts: 6,282
Blog Entries: 4

Rep: Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842Reputation: 842
Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgsboson View Post
3. If I want encrypted LVM, I believe I need a seperate /boot partition which I haven't created. However, can anyone please advise the importance of LVM and encrypted LVM and if most people use it?
Hi...

I don't have any experience with this feature since I've never used it. However, I found some articles that might be of help in making your decision...

http://linuxbsdos.com/2008/09/24/the...olume-manager/

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questi...ct-performance

http://www.standalone-sysadmin.com/b...-lvm-in-linux/

https://wiki.debian.org/LVM

As to the number of people who use LVM, I really couldn't tell you. Perhaps someone on the forum has the actual statistics.

Regards...
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 02-05-2016, 01:13 PM   #9
273
LQ Addict
 
Registered: Dec 2011
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian Sid AMD64, Raspbian Wheezy, various VMs
Posts: 7,680

Rep: Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373Reputation: 2373
I would ask why you want to install from DVD.
What are tour resources (and USB sticks, for examle?) And what are your goals(minimal system, fancy desktop, picture frame)?
 
Old 02-05-2016, 01:30 PM   #10
yancek
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Apr 2008
Distribution: Slackware, Ubuntu, PCLinux,
Posts: 10,547

Rep: Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498Reputation: 2498
Quote:
It has been my experience, whenever I've gone dual boot, or tri-boot or more, and do not allow that last OS to install a boot loader I run into problems of not being able to boot into any OS.
It's a matter of choice. I have a primary system which I use and it's bootloader and always install other systems bootloader to it's root partition. Never had any problems but it is probably easier to install to the MBR (if using MBR) with the last system especially for someone new. Of course doing this and having the installation fail creates it's own problems.
 
Old 02-05-2016, 07:14 PM   #11
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by yancek View Post
It's a matter of choice. I have a primary system which I use and it's bootloader and always install other systems bootloader to it's root partition. Never had any problems but it is probably easier to install to the MBR (if using MBR) with the last system especially for someone new. Of course doing this and having the installation fail creates it's own problems.
I've never ventured into such details on where to put the boot loader - MBR is always given as a main choise so I just play'd it safe and pick that, then figured out how to make that work for me.

Last edited by BW-userx; 02-05-2016 at 07:16 PM.
 
Old 02-05-2016, 07:37 PM   #12
Higgsboson
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2014
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian 8 Cinnamon/Xfce/gnome classic Debian live usb
Posts: 508

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by BW-userx View Post
if you can download it for free then why pay a ebay retailer -- if you're going to give money for it - I'd personally give the money directy to Debain to help support them, not some retailer that is trying to make money off of something he got for free, then turns around and makes a profit off it.

then just brun it to a USB Stick
I don't think you can burn anything onto USB.
I think I have to download a .iso file and then burn it onto a dvd. I then use the dvd to make a fresh install.
Since my dvd rw fails to actually write (burn), then I'll have to buy a new dvd rw. The cost of a Jessie 8.2 dvd however is much cheaper (in my situation).
 
Old 02-05-2016, 07:49 PM   #13
un1x
Member
 
Registered: Oct 2015
Posts: 645

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
:newbie :
 
Old 02-05-2016, 07:57 PM   #14
BW-userx
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Sep 2013
Location: Somewhere in my head.
Distribution: Slackware (15 current), Slack15, Ubuntu studio, MX Linux, FreeBSD 13.1, WIn10
Posts: 10,342

Rep: Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242Reputation: 2242
Quote:
Originally Posted by un1x View Post
~~~
I second that emotion
 
Old 02-05-2016, 07:57 PM   #15
Higgsboson
Member
 
Registered: Dec 2014
Location: UK
Distribution: Debian 8 Cinnamon/Xfce/gnome classic Debian live usb
Posts: 508

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 50
Quote:
Originally Posted by yancek View Post
You don't so download from the Debian site below which also has a number of links explaining installing whichever version you download.

https://www.debian.org/distrib/
If I download a .iso from the repos, then I suspect I'll have to burn to disk. There is no way round that is there? I only ask because after getting some empty dvd disks, I found my dvd player doesn't write properly.

Quote:
Installing using the "manual" option will give you control and the ability to create/format partitions. The other options I believe will overwrite everything on the disk, if that's what you want.
My hdd is already formatted and partitioned with 2 OSs on it.
If I use the 'manual' option, will I be able to target the install to a specific partition?


Quote:
As for installing Grub, you might indicate which other operating system you have which contains Grub and which Grub version is it. If you don't install Grub with Debian, you will have to update the Grub on the other OS to include the Debian after the install. Obviously, the Grub currently installed isn't going to be aware that you have installed another system until it checks the drive with the grub-mkconfig command.
I can't remember if I have grub installed on all my debian OSs (4) or if it is in one OS which holds it in the MBR. Sorry if that doesn't make sense.
Is there a cmd which will tell me where grub is and how it starts?
Since I already have grub, I'm going to de-select grub on the fresh install. After installation, I'll boot my old debian OS and run grub-update. After that, grub should be able to see the fresh install. Is that correct?
 
  


Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[SOLVED] How to provide non-free firmware files to the Debian Jessie Installer. luvr Debian 39 01-20-2022 04:16 AM
LXer: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 Screenshot Tour LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 04-21-2015 10:29 PM
LXer: Debian Installer Jessie RC 3 LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 04-21-2015 01:50 PM
LXer: Trying Out The Debian 8.0 Jessie Installer Alpha 1 LXer Syndicated Linux News 0 03-21-2014 02:20 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Newbie

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:25 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration