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Old 11-03-2022, 07:02 AM   #1
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HP (renewed) Chromebooks for $49 - $65 [would like help picking one for my Aunt please)


I see Amazon & Walmart have HP Chromebooks from $50 to $65 (all renewed). I like HP.

All my Aunt uses her, way outdated, laptop for is facebook. I've narrowed it down to three of the 14" screen models.

Users, please take a look at these 3 and advise which one would be fastest/best for her to do facebook.

https://www.amazon.com/HP-Chromebook...%2C230&sr=8-15

or

:https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Chrome...Used/928091046

or

https://www.walmart.com/ip/HP-Chrome...ll&athena=true

Very much thanks in advance for your time & suggestion(s). Her current laptop is a year 2000 laptop with broken screen and touchpad that half works... I'm sure any of these 3 would be much much better!

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Old 11-03-2022, 09:21 AM   #2
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Chromebook 14 G4 Sep 2021
Sept 21 is when chromeos quits supporting your 1st link.
Oh 2nd and 3rd link is a g4 also. So best I post where I saw eol from. eol = end of life
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-l...-14-supported/

If you want something already done and supported in that price range
https://www.ebay.com/itm/195365970237

When I converted my Acer C710 to AntiX Linux from ChromeOS. I could do what your Aunt wishes to do on lesser hardware specs on a older chromebook.

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About Your Linux Laptop:

Each unit has been carefully set up so the ports work including the speakers and web cam. The top row of keys work as your function keys and can be mapped for other uses. Each Trackpad is set to touch settings (double tap for left, 2 finger tap for right click)

We include a printed "quick start" guide so you will have the most important tips-and-tricks handy
What the heck. Let her run and learn linux. If you can contact the seller and tell em you want Mint XFCE instead of Ubuntu XFCE.
They might oblige you. If not. Ubuntu XFCE is not so terrible. I don't recommend Kali as your Aunts 1st Linux experience.

Good Luck.

Edit: 14 incher will be more expensive.

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Old 11-03-2022, 09:28 AM   #3
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If what she wants to do is to "run Facebook," then Linux might well be a very good option for her to use as long as you can support it. She probably wouldn't care "which OS it is," as long as it reliably does the job, which of course it would. This would also effectively side-step "end of life" issues.
 
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After looking again at your 3 links and if you don't care about supported browsers and such.
I'd just pick the cheapest one of your links in case you wishing to try your hand at converting hers to Linux later.
 
Old 11-03-2022, 10:06 AM   #5
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[...] try your hand at converting hers to Linux later.
The success of that depends entirely on which model it is:

https://mrchromebox.tech/static/devices.html
 
Old 11-03-2022, 11:06 AM   #6
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G4 have the screw to change the bios so you can install the bios firmware easily in developer mode.

Most of my gear require a soldering a jumper. Which HP G4 does not require.

From your link

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HP Chromebook 14 G4 KIP ✅ ✅ screw
 
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Old 11-03-2022, 11:11 AM   #7
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Thanks for your replies. She has been using Linux, unknowlingly, on that old year 2000 laptop. She is in her 80s and won't be learning a lot of Linux. I've had Lubuntu on her laptop for years...

I didn't know the Chrome books had end of life time "issues."

So, you would recommend the Dell over all the HP models due to this end of life time thing....
?
 
Old 11-03-2022, 11:13 AM   #8
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If what she wants to do is to "run Facebook," then Linux might well be a very good option for her to use as long as you can support it. She probably wouldn't care "which OS it is," as long as it reliably does the job, which of course it would. This would also effectively side-step "end of life" issues.
Well I'm not following you exactly. Are you referring to ChromeOS when you speak of "Linux" here?
Maybe not as you speak of avoiding end of life issues.
She is using Lubuntu now, but her system is the year 2000 with a CRACKED screen.....

p.s. Can these Chromebooks be converted to lite versions of Linux - do people do that?
 
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The success of that depends entirely on which model it is:

https://mrchromebox.tech/static/devices.html
She is using Lubuntu linux now. Just need an upgrade due to cracked screen and her year 2000 HP laptop is still a slow old AMD processor....
 
Old 11-03-2022, 11:19 AM   #10
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After looking again at your 3 links and if you don't care about supported browsers and such.
I'd just pick the cheapest one of your links in case you wishing to try your hand at converting hers to Linux later.
When you say "convert" hers to LInux later, do you mean convert her purchased Chromebook to Linux later - ?
 
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OK, THANKS
 
Old 11-03-2022, 11:23 AM   #12
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[QUOTE=rokytnji;6390149]Sept 21 is when chromeos quits supporting your 1st link.
Oh 2nd and 3rd link is a g4 also. So best I post where I saw eol from. eol = end of life
https://www.xda-developers.com/how-l...-14-supported/

Thanks so much for the links. I guess these Chromebooks are like Android phones - since is also Google. I say thaT MEANING that you don't easily updaTE TO a more recent version of Android OS than what came on your phone. I'm not very fond of that idea. So these Chromebooks have these end of life support date - not fond of that either.

But I take it, that any of these Chromebooks, once end of life occurs, could be converted to a lite version of Linux (to just use facebook - ?)....

ThANK YOU ALL for your replies and continued replies and help/comments !
 
Old 11-04-2022, 09:29 AM   #13
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So, you would recommend the Dell over all the HP models due to this end of life time thing....
I google search any model I would consider on purchasing first to find EOL of ChromeOS on the chromebook in question. Then google search how to install Linux on it next by investigating how to get into developer mode 1st. Then see if it uses a screw or taking out the battery like some of the newer chromebooks do.

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Hardware write protection
The hardware write protection is an electrical circuit which prevents writing to the software protection special registers; it is normally enforced by the grounding of the !WP pin on the SOIC8 chip. Thus the hardware write protection only protects directly these special registers, but indirectly also the data in the firmware chip.

Early Chromebook models (2012-2013) used a jumper or switch to implement hardware write protection. Most models from 2014-2017 used a screw, and Kabylake/Apollolake (and newer) models from 2017 on use the battery sense line (so disconnecting the battery is necessary to disable the hardware write protect).
 
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"End of life" basically refers to Microsoft's willingness to continue supporting their [latest, of course ...] Windows® operating systems on the box. Since they at this point have consolidated to just one operating-system offering, they simply intend to force users to keep up with them. (Which, from their corporate point of view, does make a certain amount of sense ...)

However, Linux offers a very elegant alternative that works just as well for most (consumer ...) purposes.

If you and she are already running Linux, then you should easily be able to buy new hardware "on the cheap," install the most current Linux distro that runs there, and be off-and-running. She literally won't care. Nor should she. Because "it works."

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Old 11-04-2022, 02:31 PM   #15
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Well. I practice what I preach. Took some saved up raspberry Pi 4 funds and bought this instead.

Prefer Debian based to Ubuntu based. Not really caring about the pen testing tools Also. I know where this is.
 
  


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