From XP to Ubuntu to Lubuntu

ardvark71 · 03-12-2015, 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radioburningchrome

Installed chromium and minitube. Both not currently working. No sound as well. Fire Fox is being used currently.

Hi...

So sound works in Firefox?

Regards...

beachboy2 · 03-13-2015, 01:43 AM

radioburningchrome,

Zorin OS Lite or Peppermint OS Five? Try one or both.

ZOSL is based on Ubuntu, has Ubuntu support for 5 years and performs better on video than Lubuntu (3 years support).

Quote:

Arindam Sen's overall verdict on ZOSL in his Linuxed blog:

Zorin OS 9 Lite is undoubtedly one of the best lightweight LXDE distro I have used. It looks good with a typical Zorin theme, although it may not be as good looking as LXLE. But, on performance it eclipse any other LXDE distro I have used. Resource consumption is pretty minimal and video playback is simply great with Zorin even on very antiquated systems. Further, Zorin bakes in all the functionality of Ubuntu along with 5 years of support (till April 2019).

I must say, this is the best lightweight Linux experience I got in last 12 months or so of all the Linux distros I tried. Zorin OS 9 Lite definitely performs awesome on the limited spec machines and multi-tasking was not an issue.

In fact, Zorin OS 9 got the highest score among all XFCE/LXDE I evaluated in 2013-14. I safely recommend Zorin OS 9 Lite for all users looking for an attractive, highly functional and lightweight operating system. It is highly recommended for Linux novices who are apprehensive of trying out LXDE desktop environment.

In your line of work you may spot an opportunity to acquire an end of life laptop with at least 2GB of RAM, a better CPU and better video chip/card.

This would enable you to run a less lightweight distribution like Linux Mint MATE 17.1, which is again Ubuntu-based and has 5 years support.

radioburningchrome · 03-13-2015, 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jross

Unless they recently changed it, Zorin Lite is based on Lubuntu. And, given Zorin's whole claim to fame is to try and get the desktop to "look kike" windows, this would be a complete waste of time, as the Lite version looks just like Lubuntu with a "Z" for the menu button! And there is the whole support issue also.

To clarify, Zorin has less support than Lubuntu?

radioburningchrome · 03-13-2015, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jross

I also had to do something with an XP PC and I installed Xubuntu 14.04 as a dual boot.

As far as Youtube, what is the problem? I use Chrome browser which uses HTML5 by default now for Youtube and I don't have any problem with youtube.

Youtube will load, but the video does not play. The video will flash black to white once or twice and that is it.

radioburningchrome · 03-13-2015, 05:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardvark71

Hi...

So sound works in Firefox?

Regards...

ardvark71:

No sound at all. Do I need to reinstall sound drivers?

radioburningchrome · 03-13-2015, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachboy2

radioburningchrome,

Zorin OS Lite or Peppermint OS Five? Try one or both.

ZOSL is based on Ubuntu, has Ubuntu support for 5 years and performs better on video than Lubuntu (3 years support).

In your line of work you may spot an opportunity to acquire an end of life laptop with at least 2GB of RAM, a better CPU and better video chip/card.

This would enable you to run a less lightweight distribution like Linux Mint MATE 17.1, which is again Ubuntu-based and has 5 years support.

beachboy2:

Zorin OS might be the key to solve video issues?

In my current line of work, all computers/equipment is destroyed rather than "repurposed". Does not make sense to me, but then again I am only a contractor and not state employee.

beachboy2 · 03-13-2015, 06:53 AM

Quote:

video playback is simply great with Zorin even on very antiquated systems

Give Zorin Lite a try.

You have nothing to lose. It is well supported and follows the Ubuntu repositories.

As mentioned above, it may be Firefox that is causing your Flash problems.

Chrome browser may be better for Flash.

ardvark71 · 03-13-2015, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radioburningchrome

No sound at all. Do I need to reinstall sound drivers?

To avoid pulling you in two or more directions here, please feel free to try Zorin first if you'd like. There's also Puppy Linux (Precise 5.7.1 and Tahr 6.x are the most Ubuntu based versions.) Zorin or Puppy may solve your immediate issues with sound and video.

But if you'd like to see if there's a chance with Lubuntu, please open a terminal and copy and paste the following commands...

Code:

lspci -nnk

Code:

lsmod

I might need others later but these two should work for now. Likewise, copy and paste the readouts in a future post. Please omit nothing from the codes or the readouts.

Regards...

joe_2000 · 03-15-2015, 07:05 AM

Have you checked that you actually have flash installed? Look e.g. here for instructions:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Re...dFormats/Flash

If that is not enough, there is also pipelight. (My sister in law had issues with online videos not working and what solved it for her was installing the pipelight plugin.)

This would also allow to use drm protected content from sites like netflix etc., so it's probably a bit over the top for what you want to achieve, but if all else fails it may be worth giving it a try.

Anyway, the commands needed to install it would be

Code:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pipelight/stable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install --install-recommends pipelight-multi
sudo pipelight-plugin --update
pipelight-plugin --enable silverlight   # only needed for drm as mentioned above
pipelight-plugin --enable flash
sudo pipelight-plugin --unlock shockwave  # not sure if needed, try if above is not enough
pipelight-plugin --enable shockwave # not sure if needed, try if above is not enough

joe_2000 · 03-15-2015, 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jross

Unless they recently changed it, Zorin Lite is based on Lubuntu. And, given Zorin's whole claim to fame is to try and get the desktop to "look kike" windows, this would be a complete waste of time, as the Lite version looks just like Lubuntu with a "Z" for the menu button! And there is the whole support issue also.

Everytime time I see someone bringing up Zorin and go to their website it strikes me as looking spammy and pitched in a tone that sounds way too salesman-ish for my taste... Have never tried myself and don't think I ever will. If they are using the same sources as Ubuntu there is no reason to go through a reinstall at this point. If you can make it work in Zorin, most likely you can also make it work in Lubuntu!

radioburningchrome · 03-17-2015, 07:16 AM

Thanks for the all the help, will try later today to see what happens.

Any many thanks to my ISP for problems with access since Saturday.....

radioburningchrome · 03-19-2015, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ardvark71

To avoid pulling you in two or more directions here, please feel free to try Zorin first if you'd like. There's also Puppy Linux (Precise 5.7.1 and Tahr 6.x are the most Ubuntu based versions.) Zorin or Puppy may solve your immediate issues with sound and video.

But if you'd like to see if there's a chance with Lubuntu, please open a terminal and copy and paste the following commands...

Code:

lspci -nnk

Code:

lsmod

I might need others later but these two should work for now. Likewise, copy and paste the readouts in a future post. Please omit nothing from the codes or the readouts.

Regards...

Pasted the two commands and received the following:

lspci -nnk
00:00.0 Host bridge [0600]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [KM400/A] Chipset Host Bridge [1106:3205]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8118]
Kernel driver in use: agpgart-via
00:01.0 PCI bridge [0604]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237/VX700 PCI Bridge [1106:b198]
00:0a.0 Communication controller [0780]: LSI Corporation LT WinModem [11c1:044c] (rev 02)
Subsystem: LSI Corporation LT WinModem [11c1:044c]
00:0b.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394) [0c00]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6306/7/8 [Fire II(M)] IEEE 1394 OHCI Controller [1106:3044] (rev 80)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A8V/A8N/P4P800 series motherboard [1043:808a]
Kernel driver in use: firewire_ohci
00:0f.0 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller [1106:3149] (rev 80)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V Deluxe/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
Kernel driver in use: sata_via
00:0f.1 IDE interface [0101]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE [1106:0571] (rev 06)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
Kernel driver in use: pata_via
00:10.0 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:10.1 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:10.2 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:10.3 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller [1106:3038] (rev 81)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd
00:10.4 USB controller [0c03]: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 [1106:3104] (rev 86)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
Kernel driver in use: ehci-pci
00:11.0 ISA bridge [0601]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [KT600/K8T800/K8T890 South] [1106:3227]
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. A7V600/K8V-X/A8V Deluxe motherboard [1043:80ed]
00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 60)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:810a]
Kernel driver in use: snd_via82xx
00:11.6 Communication controller [0780]: VIA Technologies, Inc. AC'97 Modem Controller [1106:3068] (rev 80)
00:12.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] [1106:3065] (rev 78)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:80ff]
Kernel driver in use: via-rhine
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: VIA Technologies, Inc. KM400/KN400/P4M800 [S3 UniChrome] [1106:7205] (rev 01)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:8118]
lesczyszyn@lesczyszyn-DW230A-ABA-a500n:~$
lesczyszyn@lesczyszyn-DW230A-ABA-a500n:~$ lsmod
Module Size Used by
bnep 18829 2
rfcomm 58045 0
bluetooth 390981 10 bnep,rfcomm
6lowpan_iphc 18262 1 bluetooth
snd_wavefront 34046 0
snd_cs4236 29209 0
snd_opl3_lib 18651 2 snd_wavefront,snd_cs4236
snd_hwdep 13272 2 snd_wavefront,snd_opl3_lib
snd_wss_lib 29842 2 snd_wavefront,snd_cs4236
snd_via82xx 28593 1
snd_mpu401_uart 13865 3 snd_via82xx,snd_wavefront,snd_cs4236
snd_seq_midi 13324 0
snd_via82xx_modem 18310 0
snd_seq_midi_event 14475 1 snd_seq_midi
snd_ac97_codec 109944 2 snd_via82xx,snd_via82xx_modem
snd_rawmidi 25722 3 snd_wavefront,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
ac97_bus 12642 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_seq 56638 2 snd_seq_midi_event,snd_seq_midi
serio_raw 13210 0
snd_seq_device 14137 4 snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_opl3_lib,snd_seq_midi
snd_pcm 91280 5 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_wss_lib,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_cs4236
i2c_viapro 13107 0
snd_timer 28579 4 snd_wss_lib,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_opl3_lib
snd 66629 16 snd_via82xx,snd_ac97_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_wss_lib,snd_pcm,snd_seq,snd_rawmidi,snd_wavefront ,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_via82xx_modem,snd_seq_device,snd_cs4236,snd_opl3_lib
ns558 12598 0
soundcore 14604 1 snd
gameport 15189 2 snd_via82xx,ns558
shpchp 32136 0
mac_hid 13059 0
parport_pc 32021 1
ppdev 17391 0
lp 17395 0
parport 40795 3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
uas 22679 0
usb_storage 56694 1 uas
pata_acpi 12901 0
hid_generic 12503 0
usbhid 46993 0
hid 95989 2 hid_generic,usbhid
firewire_ohci 35392 0
firewire_core 61785 1 firewire_ohci
via_rhine 27874 0
mii 13654 1 via_rhine
crc_itu_t 12627 1 firewire_core
pata_via 13412 2
sata_via 13549 0
floppy 59740 0
lesczyszyn@lesczyszyn-DW230A-ABA-a500n:~$

radioburningchrome · 03-19-2015, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe_2000

Have you checked that you actually have flash installed? Look e.g. here for instructions:

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Re...dFormats/Flash

If that is not enough, there is also pipelight. (My sister in law had issues with online videos not working and what solved it for her was installing the pipelight plugin.)

This would also allow to use drm protected content from sites like netflix etc., so it's probably a bit over the top for what you want to achieve, but if all else fails it may be worth giving it a try.

Anyway, the commands needed to install it would be

Code:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:pipelight/stable
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get install --install-recommends pipelight-multi
sudo pipelight-plugin --update
pipelight-plugin --enable silverlight   # only needed for drm as mentioned above
pipelight-plugin --enable flash
sudo pipelight-plugin --unlock shockwave  # not sure if needed, try if above is not enough
pipelight-plugin --enable shockwave # not sure if needed, try if above is not enough

Pasted the code into the terminal .

joe_2000 · 03-19-2015, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radioburningchrome

Pasted the code into the terminal .

And does it help for running videos?

If it does not help, can you please post the output? And can you please enclose the output by code tags. (Click on the pound sign in the icon bar above the text form. It will create the code tags. Then paste the terminal output between the tags.)

joe_2000 · 03-19-2015, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by radioburningchrome

00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller [0401]: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller [1106:3059] (rev 60)
Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Device [1043:810a]
Kernel driver in use: snd_via82xx

Looks like a driver is in use. (Which does not necessarily mean it's working properly)

Before letting ardvark71 dig deeper into the driver issue, I'd like to throw this thought in: the vast majority of sound issues is zero volume. Can you positively rule out this root cause? Try and run

Code:

alsamixer

It should open a coonsole application that allows you to control sound volume. (If it says "command not found" run

Code:

sudo apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils

and try again.

Use cursor left and right to navigate between different volume controls. Use cursor up to increase volume. Try "m" to toggle mute.
Press F6 to select a sound card. Try all available options.
When you are positive that you have volume on you can exit the application with ESC.

Stupid as it may sound, you really should rule this one out before looking too much at drivers and logiles etc...