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some people have reported issues in saving a file bigger than 4 gig on xp and even 7
IF they use internet explorer and save it to there "Desktop" -- bad idea saving things to the desktop
even if they are using NTFS
but as above if it is a fat32 then the max file size is 4 gig ( minus one bit )
also XP was NEVER !!! able to burn a ISO "image"
you MUST use a third party program to do it
There is a good FREE program called
"CDBurnnerXP " -- yes it sounds fishy BUT it is a real program https://cdburnerxp.se/en/home
it will burn a dvd , it is a cygwin build of Linux code so it will run on Windows
Wow! That's lots of info, a lot of it for after I get past the iso download problem, some for now.
Hi Shadow_7,
I've also seen mention of a 900MB iso size. That and your numbers for CD iso sizes are well under the 2GB level so it's possible I don't have a download size limit problem.
Hi roy_lt_69,
When I started on this I checked my drive properties and had lots of room left so I think my troubles aren't due to a full disc.
Hi onebuck,
Yes I've been using the MD5 checksum but, since the downloads have all been incomplete, naturally I haven't had any matches.
Your suggestion of the wget approach may be the way to go.
I checked out the Ultimate Guide and see its a great source.
My impression has been that Torrent is great, but just for things that have a lot of users downloading at the same time, that it's then somewhat faster for the individual user and a lot easier on the source. Are there enough people trying for any particular distro at a time to make torrent worthwhile?
I am aware I'll need to get some utility software to burn the iso to a CD (or, apparently also possible, mount it on a USB stick. I'm taking this one step at a time, though.
now placing the iso on a dvd or making a usb thumb drive is a different story
now if this old xp computer has only 512 meg of ram ( or 256 meg ) the mint xfce might not work well
but seeing as we do not know if this is a xp computer from 2001 or 2008 ????????
or if it had win98 on it and was upgraded to xp ( a pIII cpu with 128 meg )
If the torrent doesn't work, then I think that getting a really small distro like Puppy (<200MB), then using it to boot into Linux in order to download Mint is something you might want to consider.
Of course you would need to save the Mint iso to your hard disk or write to USB or DVD before exiting/rebooting Puppy.
This way you eliminate Windows altogether, with all it bugs, malware, spyware, etc.
It is a more round about way of doing things.
Who knows you may even like Puppy Linux.
If you do I would recommend the "Precise" version.
IMO torrents are easier, quite often faster to d/l, and safer than a direct d/l.
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Originally Posted by Gene Falck
I understand that the iso file can be smaller than the OS installed but I really don't know what I should expect the size of either one to be. I did find a mention of the later Vista version having a download limit of 2GB (I wouldn't think XP would be bigger) so if the iso file is more than 2GB, I guess I'll have to do something else.
Not vista exactly, but IE 6.
Quote:
SYMPTOMS
When you attempt to download a file from the Internet by using Hypertext Transfer Protocol (HTTP) in Microsoft Internet Explorer, you may find that the download does not complete. As a result, you cannot download the file.
CAUSE
This behavior can occur if you try to download a file that is larger than 2 gigabytes (GB) in Internet Explorer 6 or is larger than 4 GB in Internet Explorer 7.
IMO torrents are easier, quite often faster to d/l, and safer than a direct d/l.
But torrents won't be any faster than your internet connection allows. Some .edu sites direct http downloads don't limit the bandwidth, and plenty of mirrors don't. So I don't see how one would be faster than the other, except in outlying circumstances where the http download is limited.
How is a torrent safer than a direct http download now?
I've seen huge differences in speed between direct d/ls and torrenting the same .iso. That could be in part due to my location- australia has tiny pipes going to the rest of the world. But even for 'local' direct d/ls I tend to get a bit more speed from torrent than from direct d/ls (though if its local, its not a huge difference, something like 2MB/sec for the direct vs 2.2/2.3MB/sec for the torrent).
As far as 'safer', um, I probably should have used a different word. 'Less wastage' maybe? Nothing more fustrating than getting 75% of a 1GB+ .iso then having the conenction fail. Made worse by the small (by world standards) data limits here. At least with torrent, you havent wasted your bandwidth.
Torrents will auto continue, so you avoid fails and starting over from zero. It allows you to down throttle the download so you can do other things while it downloads.
For some torrents when there's a number of peers and they're local to you (perhaps same ISP and region) you can get some blistering speeds that you will never get from far far away. Not so much for torrents of linux isos as number of peers isn't that large that often. New release and first week, you would probably see a difference. Six months in and you're probably the only peer. As long as you don't throttle it, it should be about the same speed in torrent as it would be in http. Using ftp might be a little faster with fewer or smaller headers.
I seem to recall a registry hack for IE back in the day that upped the default timeout (default is like one minute). I changed that to ten minutes and my moms browsing experience was much improved on slow dialup. Until I got her to convert to linux. Windows kept forgetting that it had a wireless device if the signal got below a certain strength. And of course moms like to bury thier computers which attenuates most wireless signals.
You are able to resume downloads from http like this:
Code:
wget -c url_that_failed
You mention one of the reasons I don't bother using bittorrent. As time goes on there are fewer seeders, to the point where there is no benefit using it.
Here is a basic comparison of bittorent and http. Also available is FTP. http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/bittorrent-vs-http.html The person makes a good comparison, but makes the typical mistake of saying that http downloads are unable to be resumed.
It's been slow plodding through things. I'm still trying to get a download manager to work but persistence paid off and, on the fourth try (and the third mirror site), I got the .iso for 32bit Mint (with Mate) to finish and pass the MD5 test.
I used UNetbootin to put the distro on a USB drive and rebooted. Mint seems to have come up. The question is, is there any thing to do to be sure everything is OK? I
don't see any internet access at this point, for example.
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