i did not see an official forum just a newsletter site as such. yes the latter. now watch me here something from one of them.

ok the first - the 2nd link does not work. the first pulled up the site.


p.s. i never could get the partitioning thing down and one time i lost everything on my wife's laptop trying to get it working so i run dedicated machines. told you i was not too swift with linux.

In that case I agree with the advice to try pure Debian - that will give you a better view of how it looks and runs without the Mint addons. Either way, running a live media version would be the best bet.

https://www.debian.org/CD/live/

If you're worried about the atmosphere on the Mint forums, read this thread that was just posted there yesterday:

https://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtop...f=251&t=287878

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thanks - saw the thread last night i guess it was or early this am. i also saw that there is a non free live dvd that has codecs on them too. was going to try one but then again --- maybe will download the gnome or xfce - but not a fan of xfce and definitely not into kde - and the mate stuff etc never liked it. never tried cinnamon. but may do it - thanks everyone. :-)

Dive on in, and let us know how it goes.

hazel - the 2nd finally pulled up but i saw a few posts and comments n the first that were nasty. can't find them again but i read a lot of different stuff over the last 2 days. i am sorry. i also saw quoted threads from the first too. so go figure. sorry to be so fuzzy.

downloading gnome and xfce -will have to pick up some dvd's to write the iso's to and try them. Thanks again everyone.

Pros and cons of using Debian. This is my two cents; others may disagree.

Pros:
1) Very good tempered as long as you stay clear of the Unstable branch.
2) Debian is a typical mainstream Linux, unlike Ubuntu and Mint, which are very newbie-oriented, or Bodhi, which prides itself on being different (enlightenment, etc).
3) If you use Bodhi, you are already familiar with the Debian package management system.

Cons:
1) Debian uses systemd, so the boot process is completely opaque
2) It tends to fragment its packages, with components being separately packaged. Many distro families separate runtime libraries from their headers, but Debian goes further than that. This makes updating more complex.

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thanks Hazel. i am not and never was a distro-hopper as such. and sometimes i wonder why i do have an interest on other stuff at times; but maybe it is because i want to learn in some small way and also just to see other linux systems. at my age kind of keeps my mind going too. heh heh. i have only used a few of them an even one of the more used or famous ones i just never liked and at the beginning could not get to work properly. even recently i went back to try another distro and after a month it was a no-go. been with bodhi since 3 and i really like the moksha/enlightenment look and feel compared to other desktops/and distros that seem like windows as far as looks go.hope this makes sense.

stable is good but older apps as such might not be that good but i am not doing what i used to on my laptops so this might not be that bad of a situation. but could be a little like going back all of a sudden which could be a bit weird.

thank you.

well ran Debian 9.7? is it in live mode a bit yesterday evening- xfce did not impress me - but the gnome was rather nice. got wireless working. i like E/moksha so much and feels so natural to me - started with old gnome - never liked kde - but the new gnome is different - as in bionic beaver but if needed i could do it. also the debian - even in live mode ran so much faster than other live mode ones it probably would run nicely installed. also the little i tried not 1 issue as such. thought i'd post that.

If you don't like xfce, try lxde. It's quite fast.

Just as a point of information there is no official Debian forum. There is just one forum which is slightly less bad than the other one.

See:

http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=80901
https://ubuntuforums.org/showthread....6#post12214166

i know i found out with some one giving me a wiseguy remark and telling me maybe debian was not for me, etc. basically - we do not want you and go someplace else. That is why i was surprised. you would think people would like to help or would like to see someone else interested in debian. pure hubris. as little as i know i still am an advocate for linux and opensource stuff and in whatever tiny way i try to help even for basic stuff due to my basic level.... but hey - maybe that is their weird mental trip. just seems that forums seem to bring out the negative in a lot of people and the main reason i stay away. If i knew the answers I would not ask. If i knew the answers i would not need a forum as such. If i knew i could stay away and not be bothered or offer to help because i DID know so much. go figure. just rummy-dummies.

sorry to open a can of worms folks. Not intended.

The point is that on the Debian forums they like you to have done a little research beforehand. This is not altogether unreasonable since Debian is not a beginner's distro, it's an intermediate distro. I didn't see your posts there, but it's good to go there with what you wanted to achieve, what you tried, what didn't work and what error messages you got.

Having said that, the standard of advice on the Debian forums of late has plummeted. It used to be good even up to a couple of years ago but most of the old hands left after Debian moved to systemd and Wheezy went EOL. You'll get mediocre advice there, so it's probably better to come over to LQ.

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