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Old 04-24-2020, 07:18 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by paxolin View Post
Thanks greencedar.

If you look at the report below I saved before I rebooted, you can see the last line about en_GB.utf8
I noticed that popped up perhaps 20 times while the upgrade was running.

Although I live in Thailand I wanted the things like the date and measurements to appear UK style - like DD-MM-YY.
In the past I got some help to change it to locale UK, but it seems there's something missing, even though the dates, etc appear as I wanted.
To me that seems OK. I don't know if it causes other problem with the missing English GB setup?

I can change the keyboard from US to Thai, and UK if I need to for the £ sign.
A Thai keyboard has Thai and US English on it, it's the only option.

Warning: No support for locale: en_GB.utf8[/CODE]
paxolin,

I now have time, and can check my reference material, so I can check into the 'en_GB.utfh8' and why it was repeatedly (you mentioned about 20 times), and the 'Warning' message up. This repetition is not normal and I am not sure if it has a bearing on your Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS being slow. So, we will check your supported languages and try to ascertain if it is causing a slowness or if it is not a big problem.

Can you give us the codes for:

1.
Code:
 ~$ locale
2.
Code:
~$ locale -a
Also, concerning the slowness and the usage of the Thai language. While tying Thai does the computer seem slow? Any noticeable problems with using the Thai language?

greencedar

Last edited by greencedar; 04-24-2020 at 07:19 PM. Reason: addded the '8' in utfh
 
Old 04-24-2020, 10:48 PM   #32
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This should be the result you ask for:

Code:
~ $ locale
LANG=en_GB.UTF-8
LANGUAGE=
LC_CTYPE="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_NUMERIC=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TIME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_COLLATE="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_MONETARY=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MESSAGES="en_GB.UTF-8"
LC_PAPER=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_NAME=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ADDRESS=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_TELEPHONE=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_MEASUREMENT=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_GB.UTF-8
LC_ALL=

Code:
 ~ $ locale -a
C
C.UTF-8
en_AG
en_AG.utf8
en_AU.utf8
en_BW.utf8
en_CA.utf8
en_DK.utf8
en_GB.utf8
en_HK.utf8
en_IE.utf8
en_IN
en_IN.utf8
en_NG
en_NG.utf8
en_NZ.utf8
en_PH.utf8
en_SG.utf8
en_US.utf8
en_ZA.utf8
en_ZM
en_ZM.utf8
en_ZW.utf8
lo_LA.utf8
POSIX
th_TH.utf8
Typing in Thai or English doesn't changed anything regarding the performance.


As an aside, since doing the upgrade, it's caused other problems with Thunderbird.
In the taskbar (? bottom right corner of the screen with the date in it) a couple of years back Thunderbird used to have a little icon telling me how many new emails I had unread.

Then it disappeared and I found they didn't use it any more. I eventually found there was an Addon called Firetray, which did the same thing - great.
Now since the upgrade a day or so back, it's disappeared. I checked the Addons and saw a message saying Firetray was incompatible with Thunderbird 68.7.0.

Also when I had unread emails the Thunderbird icon along the bottom of the screen used to changed to red. That no longer happens either.
Now the only way I know if I have unread emails is to constantly go to Thunderbird and check.
(I normally have the sound muted, so I don't hear the 'new email' notification - although that only works for the very first one).
 
Old 04-25-2020, 07:58 AM   #33
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paxolin,

From what I can see, the slowness in your Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS is not caused by your language settings.Here is the link for your Thai settings (including Thai monetary information).

https://linux.thai.net/~thep/th-locale/

Your current Thunderbird version, Thunderbird 68.7.0, is the latest version and I do not think you have a problem with you version of Thunderbird. Here is the link for that information: https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/thunderbird/releases/ : 68.7.0

Here is the link to add Firetray to Thunderbird: https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US...ddon/firetray/. If you are unable to install the Firetray app, and it it is a problem showing on your Windows 7 OS, than it indicates a problem with your Windows 7 OS.

I am of the opinion that the small details mentioned above are not the cause of the slowness of your Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia OS.

Apart from what I previously mentioned, it still appears to me that your Windows 7 OS has a problem that is causing the slowness problem. If I think of something else for us to check I will let you know. There is a distinct possibility that the slowness may, or may not, happen if you can install the Linux Mint 19.3. I am not sure of my assessment at this time. I will study the matter. It is still my hope that we, anyone else who wants to add their recommendation, may help you out.

Greencedar
 
Old 04-25-2020, 09:44 AM   #34
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Hello greencedar.

I really do appreciate your ongoing help with this. However I am even more confused than I was. As I said I'm a user but not too technical.

You have included a link for Thai language settings, but I don't understand why?
The error message that appeared was to do with English GB. Do I need to install Thai? Isn't it installed? Typing in Thai works fine, is there something else that it does?


Since I told you I had Thunderbird 68.7.0, now it tells me I have 75.0.
I just tried to install Firetray-0.6.1-sm+tb+fx-linux.xpi, it told me I couldn't install it as it was corrupt.
The original Firetray (Firetray-0.6.1.xpi) in the Addons that said it was incompatible has now disappeared completely.


I notice you said, "If you are unable to install the Firetray app, and it it is a problem showing on your Windows 7 OS, than it indicates a problem with your Windows 7 OS."
You said, "and it it is a problem showing on your Windows 7 OS". I don't know why you say that "showing on your Windows 7". How can it be showing on my Windows when I don't even run it?
I have never installed Firetray on Windows. On the couple of times a year I do run Windows (for an hour perhaps) I don't run anything else apart from Coreldraw.

Sorry to keep burdening you with this.
 
Old 04-25-2020, 01:42 PM   #35
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paxolin View Post
Hello greencedar.

I really do appreciate your ongoing help with this. However I am even more confused than I was. As I said I'm a user but not too technical.

You have included a link for Thai language settings, but I don't understand why?
The error message that appeared was to do with English GB. Do I need to install Thai? Isn't it installed? Typing in Thai works fine, is there something else that it does?


Since I told you I had Thunderbird 68.7.0, now it tells me I have 75.0.
I just tried to install Firetray-0.6.1-sm+tb+fx-linux.xpi, it told me I couldn't install it as it was corrupt.
The original Firetray (Firetray-0.6.1.xpi) in the Addons that said it was incompatible has now disappeared completely.


I notice you said, "If you are unable to install the Firetray app, and it it is a problem showing on your Windows 7 OS, than it indicates a problem with your Windows 7 OS."
You said, "and it it is a problem showing on your Windows 7 OS". I don't know why you say that "showing on your Windows 7". How can it be showing on my Windows when I don't even run it?
I have never installed Firetray on Windows. On the couple of times a year I do run Windows (for an hour perhaps) I don't run anything else apart from Coreldraw.

Sorry to keep burdening you with this.
paxolin,

I appreciate your thanks and thoughts. I will try and give you an answer to your post.

1. In order to become a user with Gparted you need to become technical or you will, or can, have huge problems . If a person knows how, in a technical sense, in using Gparted it is a very helpful tool and can be a great benefit. One of the problems is that your trying to use dual boot in an old Windows 7 that, in my sight, has internal issues. I want you to read the linked article on dual booting Windows and Linus OS's.https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/risks-...ating-systems/

Quote:
Number 5 in the article states. Viruses Remain a Risk

Linux is famously virus-proof (even if this isn’t quite the truth). Although Linux-based operating systems are pretty robust, they remain largely untroubled by viruses and other malware thanks to the relatively small userbase. The many Linux operating systems collectively command only a fraction of the operating system market. Clearly, scammers target Windows computers because it’s more efficient for them to get results. However, many websites are attacked or even taken offline due to viruses and malware, and most web servers run on Linux. If you’re running a dual boot computer, therefore, the likelihood of malware affecting the Linux environment increases.
Quote:
Number 6 in the article states: From time to time, some hardware issues can occur when dual booting. These are typically linked to Windows device drivers, however, and are becoming increasingly rare. Perhaps the most common hardware issue when dual booting comes in the shape of built-in wireless network cards. These switchable devices can end up being disabled in Windows, and therefore unable to initialize in Linux. Why? Aren’t these operating systems completely independent of each other? Well yes, but the wireless card is hardware, and can be controlled via the system BIOS. In some ways, the disabled Wi-Fi card recalls the issues with a locked partition discussed in #3, above.

2. I included the link to the Thai settings purely for your information (as I did for the other links), in order for you to learn more about the Linux Mint OS's.

3.I cannot resolve the issue with the Thunderbird Firetray add on.

4. You will notice that I never mentioned that 'running' Microsoft Windows will cause you problems. Just having Microsoft once or twice a year will cause you problems with all of the updates and viruses. With the huge space requirements for Windows, the huge amount of updates in Windows, driver bugs, and virus in an older, and unsupported, version of Windows will cause you problems.

It is our hope to help you as Linux Mint 18.3 Sylvia and Linux Mint 19.3 Tricia are fine OS's and we are willing to take the time to help resolve this situation, or give you directions to take, in order to make your Linux computing beneficial to you.

greencedar
 
  


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