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Old 01-07-2017, 09:39 PM   #16
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paxolin,

I know you have marked this as solved, but two things are worth noting:

1. I agree with wolsonjr regarding KeePass2 on Linux Mint. I had no problems whatsoever. It works a treat and I like the layout.

2. Much more importantly, if you really want to avoid your password manager being hacked, then you should use two factor authentication.

Your Master Password could be something memorable along the lines of "polo" "eskimo" "tripe" "interview" (or even half of this).

The additional Keyfile must be a text file or jpeg file (or similar) which is unique to you and is not in the general domain.

Put this Keyfile on a USB drive along with thousands of other files using the "where do I hide a tree" principle.

Make sure that this Keyfile is also stored in another location, just in case the USB drive is lost or stolen!

Post #3 on here may help:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ns-4175584593/
 
Old 01-07-2017, 11:46 PM   #17
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I'm a bit surprised at your problem. I use KeePass2 on Win7/10, Debian, Ubuntu, Mint, Fedora, and anything else I run. I use a master database on my main PC system which is shared/updated to any other system I use, so it's the same kdbx file used by all of them with no problem. I wonder if your initial install caused the problem. If you have the time and inclination, I would suggest removing each all of the KeePass installations (not the password kdbx file, just the program) and reinstalling it from the system repository again. A clean install should remove the Chinese. There are also many settings in KeePass2 which may have been corrupted. With a clean install, try opening your kdbx file and see if it is working as you wish. I suspect you will find differences between Windows and Linux versions such as D&D, which I don't use so can't comment, I do know of other minor differences. A copy of any kdbx file on one system should work fine on any other system. (as a side note, my KeePass2 versions are not all the same ver#, but no problem).

Speaking of Synaptic - I've yet to any software manager that comes close to it. It takes a little learning but isn't difficult at all, and the benefits, especially for someone new, are very useful. It has great search capability and provides a wealth of information when you're trying to find something you are not sure about and don't know quite what you want. It's really worth another look.
Thanks for your comment about being able to use KeePass2. I've just un-installed KeePassX on the basis of your suggestion, and re-installed KeePass2.

I've noticed now that a couple of times it has pasted the login ID correctly when I use the drag and drop method, other times it's still pasted as Chinese again. In fact I tried one login twice, without changing the screen, or anything - first time was Chinese, second time was English.
So I have no idea why KeePass2 is not consistent for me. I'd much rather use it than KeePassX, as I like the layout whereby I can see the notes for each entry on the bottom pane of the display.

Originally I used the Software Manager, this time I used the Synaptic Package Manager.
You mentioned "system repository", I have no idea about that? I'm still very new.
 
Old 01-07-2017, 11:56 PM   #18
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paxolin,

What are PPAs?
http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/...-do-i-use-them

PPA for KeePass2:
https://launchpad.net/~jtaylor/+archive/ubuntu/keepass

All you need to do to add the PPA (adds a new repository in your Software Sources) for KeePass2 is open Terminal and enter these 2 commands separately:

Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jtaylor/keepass
sudo apt-get update
This will install KeePass2 painlessly.

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Old 01-08-2017, 01:01 AM   #19
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paxolin,

What are PPAs?
http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/...-do-i-use-them

PPA for KeePass2:
https://launchpad.net/~jtaylor/+archive/ubuntu/keepass

All you need to do to add the PPA (adds a new repository in your Software Sources) for KeePass2 is open Terminal and enter these 2 commands separately:

Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jtaylor/keepass
sudo apt-get update
This will install KeePass2 painlessly.
I'm really sorry about this: You mentioned PPA, but I was asking about system repository, as this was what you mentioned earlier?
I understand absolutely nothing about Linux so far - well less than one percent - at a guess!
 
Old 01-08-2017, 01:14 AM   #20
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paxolin,

No problem, everybody is learning!

To understand more about repositories (= homes for packages), open Synaptic Package Manager > Settings > Repositories, you will see Official Repositories (i.e. from Linux Mint) and also PPAs (unofficial repositories like the keepass one from jtaylor).

To install KeePass2, just use these 2 commands in Terminal:

Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jtaylor/keepass
sudo apt-get update
Good luck.
 
Old 01-08-2017, 02:12 AM   #21
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No problem, everybody is learning!

To understand more about repositories (= homes for packages), open Synaptic Package Manager > Settings > Repositories, you will see Official Repositories (i.e. from Linux Mint) and also PPAs (unofficial repositories like the keepass one from jtaylor).

To install KeePass2, just use these 2 commands in Terminal:

Code:
sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jtaylor/keepass
sudo apt-get update
Good luck.
I think I've managed to get the KeePass2 program from the source you recommended. You can see in the attached image it has -ppa1 at the end, so I'm assuming that's my first (and only) ppa? When I look in the ppa, it has only the jtaylor items listed.

I installed that version (v2.34) but in the about page attached, you can see there's a file not installed. No idea if that's important?

Running this version and I still have some issues. I think only once so far with Chinese characters, but I cannot now drag and drop login ID & passwords into the right fields. The only way I can do it is right-click in KeePass to copy login or password, then use ctrl-V to paste into the field.

On the up-side - at least I have the notes pane at the bottom of the display now!
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Old 01-08-2017, 02:27 AM   #22
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paxolin,

My Synaptic screenshots are attached.

If a package is installed, it will have a green box next to it.

Are you sure that you have actually installed the keepass package?

Did you run both commands, including:

Code:
sudo apt-get update
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Old 01-08-2017, 03:22 AM   #23
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My Synaptic screenshots are attached.

If a package is installed, it will have a green box next to it.

Are you sure that you have actually installed the keepass package?

Did you run both commands, including:

Code:
sudo apt-get update
Yes, I ran both commands - only yesterday it was explained to me how to copy & paste into terminal.
I've now just managed to display & edit the same screenshots as you have, see the two attached images, although I see it says Ubuntu, but I have Mint - it that the problem?
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Old 01-08-2017, 04:50 AM   #24
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paxolin,

That is perfect!

Linux Mint 18 is based on Ubuntu 16.04, so that is why you get the reference to Ubuntu.

Are you still getting Chinese characters being displayed?

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Old 01-08-2017, 05:39 AM   #25
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That is perfect!

Linux Mint 18 is based on Ubuntu 16.04, so that is why you get the reference to Ubuntu.

Are you still getting Chinese characters being displayed?
Oh right, so if I see something for Ubuntu, I can install and run it on Mint then?

The Chinese characters: Yes, about 25% of the time. I've just tested about twenty sites. If the login fails, I paste the password again and it will usually work. Obviously I can see the Login ID if it turns Chinese. Since rebooting, I can now drag & drop at the moment, which is good.

Again, if I see the Login turns Chinese, if I delete it from the login field and try again, it's sometimes Chinese a second time. However, if I scroll "up" one entry in KeePass and then "down" again, back to the original entry, it seems to drag & drop correctly then.

I have one outlook email account. Trying to use KeePass with that is the devils own work! I have the same problem with it in Windows too. Can't seem to drag & drop credentials into the MS fields. Always have to copy & paste them.
 
Old 01-08-2017, 06:42 AM   #26
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paxolin,

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if I see something for Ubuntu, I can install and run it on Mint then?
Yes.

Copy & Paste is one of the most useful techniques available, either using a mouse and right clicking highlighted text or using a keyboard (Copy is Ctrl + C and Paste is Ctrl + V).

Are you using Google Chrome or Firefox?

I have never come across the Chinese characters at website login.

In your browser:

View > Text Encoding > Make sure Auto-Detect is set to OFF.

Normally you will see either Unicode or Western.

Other members can probably advise a permanent solution if the above does not work.

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Old 01-08-2017, 07:01 AM   #27
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Yes.

Copy & Paste is one of the most useful techniques available, either using a mouse and right clicking highlighted text or using a keyboard (Copy is Ctrl + C and Paste is Ctrl + V).

Are you using Google Chrome or Firefox?

I have never come across the Chinese characters at website login.

In your browser:

View > Text Encoding > Make sure Auto-Detect is set to OFF.

Normally you will see either Unicode or Western.

Other members can probably advise a permanent solution if the above does not work.
I use Firefox - in Windows & Mint. Not sure where the text encoding is located in Firefox though?
In Windows I have EN-GB, EN-US & Thai as languages on the page.
In Mint however, I see it's only EN-GB & EN, I haven't bothered to install Thai (which is an alphabet-based language, as opposed to Chinese being character-based). But it's definitely Chinese that gets pasted (not Japanese or Korean).

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Old 01-08-2017, 08:17 AM   #28
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paxolin,

Quote:
Not sure where the text encoding is located in Firefox though?
At the top of the open web page in Firefox, click on the View tab and follow the instructions I gave you previously.
 
Old 01-08-2017, 08:56 AM   #29
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At the top of the open web page in Firefox, click on the View tab and follow the instructions I gave you previously.
I'm missing something here. I just can't see a "view" tab at the top?
If I right-click in the page, I can see "view page info", which tells me text encoding is windows-1252, but I can see nothing else?
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Old 01-08-2017, 09:09 AM   #30
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paxolin,

How on earth do you manage without having Firefox's Menu Bar (File, Edit, View etc) on permanent display?

Press the Alt key once and then click on the View tab > Toolbars > click on Menu Bar.

The Menu Bar is then permanently displayed.

Click on View > Text Encoding > Make sure Auto-Detect is set to OFF.

Normally you will see either Unicode or Western.
 
  


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