[SOLVED] Advice on Bare Metal Install BIOS settings

BW-userx · 10-31-2019, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 6th_sense

Hey BW-userx:

My laptop's specs are here:

http://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/...ifications.pdf

Not sure if that is a good thing... I guess you might understand it better than I do.

- 6th -

its the same 3 , 1 ssd and 2 PCIe NVMe sticks.

Code:

 M.2 2280 SSD / SATA 6.0Gb/s•  
 M.2 2280 SSD / PCIe NVMe, PCIe 3.0 x 4•  
 M.2 2242 SSD / PCIe NVMe, PCIe 3.0 x

beachboy2 · 10-31-2019, 10:31 AM

BW-userx,

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Originally Posted by BW-userx

you might be surprised at how easy it is to add and remove components for a laptop now days.

I am afraid that I have to disagree with you on this point. I have dismantled numerous laptops, both older and more recent models.

The older models generally had individual, easily accessible compartments for the removal/addition of memory modules, hard drives/SSDs, wifi cards etc. It took just a few seconds with a single screwdriver to do a component swap.

Generally speaking the more recent models have no such features (principally because laptops are cheaper to manufacture without them) and it is necessary to split the laptop to gain access to these basic components. Naturally this takes much longer and unless you are careful, fragile components can be accidentally damaged.

Here is an HP 250 G5 which is typical of the modern laptop design:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEn6RIb_5E

If you enjoy dismantling laptops, I can recommend this iFixit 64 bit kit:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/iFixit-64-B...ct_top?ie=UTF8

It even includes the driver bit to remove the Macbook pentalobe "anti-tamper" screws (very useful).

You cannot believe it, but somebody asked this question on Amazon:

Quote:

I notice this is a 64-bit set, will these work on 32-bit hardware?

Doh!

BW-userx · 10-31-2019, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by beachboy2

BW-userx,

I am afraid that I have to disagree with you on this point. I have dismantled numerous laptops, both older and more recent models.

The older models generally had individual, easily accessible compartments for the removal/addition of memory modules, hard drives/SSDs, wifi cards etc. It took just a few seconds with a single screwdriver to do a component swap.

Generally speaking the more recent models have no such features (principally because laptops are cheaper to manufacture without them) and it is necessary to split the laptop to gain access to these basic components. Naturally this takes much longer and unless you are careful, fragile components can be accidentally damaged.

Here is an HP 250 G5 which is typical of the modern laptop design:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xEn6RIb_5E

If you enjoy dismantling laptops, I can recommend this iFixit 64 bit kit:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/iFixit-64-B...ct_top?ie=UTF8

It even includes the driver bit to remove the Macbook pentalobe "anti-tamper" screws (very useful).

You cannot believe it, but somebody asked this question on Amazon:

Doh!

I have to disagree with you. today's laptops are a hell of a lot easier to dismantle and replace swap out hdds, ram, wifi cards then in the 90's even.

Opening up that ThinkPad
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6x0nxtEBpUY

I got lucky and got the last of the hp elitebook with the quick release back, no screws. just get the back off and a few screws or one screw is all one needs to remove ssd wifi card, RAM no screw driver needed to remove or put a stick in or pop it out.

some yeah you have to undo the keyboard and pop it out, to add RAM, but even that is easier . you do not have to go to school and pay $300+ for a certificate that says you know what you're doing to work on the laptop to do basic upgrades to it. Desktops too for that matter.

YOU TUBE videos prove that.

rnturn · 10-31-2019, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by 6th_sense

Problem I still face:

The problem I still face is video - the machine has an Nvidia Quadro P520 chipset and since it is relatively new, documentation on how to get the kernel driver compiled for this card is relatively hard to come by. Working on it - one gruelling step at a time though.

Sites I have on Nvidia Video Card Documentation:

A driver download site (found through google - but, I'm not sure about the process of using it/them)
https://www.nvidia.com/Download/driv...x/148435/en-us

Documentation on the Nvidia driver install itself seems to be somewhat sparse:
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA

and here for Fedora:
https://www.if-not-true-then-false.c...-nvidia-guide/

I don't, for instance know whether I'll need a compile of sources or not...

My primary system has an nVidia card in it. On occasion, when the patch process loads a new kernel, rebooting after the patching will fail to launch Xorg. I issue Ctrl-Alt-F1 to drop to a virtual console and rerun the driver rebuild using the process that the openSUSE team named "Install nVidia the hard way", which, despite its name, really isn't that hard. You make sure that the C development and kernel sources/header package(s) have been installed and then follow a couple of steps to disable "nouveau" from loading. My guess is that these steps are the reason why openSUSE calls it "the hard way" even though any Linux user with some experience with the CLI should find them easy---and I've only needed to do this once. Then:

Code:

# cd /opt/app/src/nvidia_drivers/<driver-version>/   # my driver location
# bash ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-<driver-file>.run
Accept the license
Use the default replies to the questions
# shutdown -r now

If there were no compile time errors, Xorg should launch without any problem. I'm guessing that Fedora has a similar process for dealing with the nVidia driver.

It may be possible to use a distribution's package manager to grab driver updates that are compatible with the updated kernel. In my experience, that only works if you have a fairly recent video card. I use the "hard way" because I have an older card. (It's good enough to play the occasional round of Xonotic, though.)

The biggest hassle is navigating nVidia's driver page(s) to track down the latest/greatest driver that supports your card. Luckily, because my card is considered "legacy", I don't have to go through that process too often.

HTH...

6th_sense · 11-05-2019, 12:56 PM

Hi guys,

Everything is Working Now:

I managed to get everything up and working.... I had transferred the files from my old laptop - which caused a hiccup in the settings for kde plasma. It would just hang, once I had logged in.

Solution:

I solved that issue by renaming the home directory and creating a new home directory and then transferring all the files over to the new directory, and skipping the dot files.

The set up of the nvidia card worked just as mentioned - and I had no compile time errors. So, it went very well. My co-worker mentioned that I needed to zap the settings for KDE, in order to get going - he mentioned logging in through gnome first and doing that and then restarting KDE. I guess the previous paragraph describes what I ended up doing to correct that issue.

Thank You:

A lot, if not all of the advice I got here, turned out to be useful - and I owe everyone who helped with suggestions a debt of gratitude.

-6th-