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Old 12-28-2014, 06:26 PM   #16
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Actually HDMI 1.0 supports 1080p and WUXGA (1920×1200) at 60 Hz, and higher versions support more, so it's not a problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
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Old 12-28-2014, 06:34 PM   #17
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I am trying to understand that? Size of the monitor should not make any difference, as the OP stated they were looking for three monitors with a specific resolution (so it wouldn't matter if one was a 23" and the other two were 29" or three different sizes, the resolutions would be the same, 16:10 aspect ratio).

Long, LONG ago, Matrox cards were about the only way to drive three monitors, without going to something more commercial (cad) oriented (more $$$$). Now, you need three DVI, VGA, or Display port connectors. HDMI has that 1080 limit that makes this not work.
You can get one video card that will drive all three, or use a couple of the same ones (crossfire/sli board), and drive them.
I was more shocked at first, by the portrait mode, and went off to educate myself about the number of monitors that can do that (swivel) now.
Looking at this page resolutions are not the same for the sizes of each monitor that's listed.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2426664,00.asp

If 2 monitors of 2 different sizes would share the same resolution please explain how that is possible.
 
Old 12-28-2014, 06:43 PM   #18
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Either the card drives the desired number of monitors and resolution (which is largely independent of GPU) or it doesn't.
I understand now, thanks johnsfine.

Catching the end of year sales like onebuck mentioned is a great way to save. Good luck.
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Old 12-29-2014, 01:16 AM   #19
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Actually HDMI 1.0 supports 1080p and WUXGA (1920×1200) at 60 Hz, and higher versions support more, so it's not a problem.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDMI
Good to know. The monitor's I have been looking at, go to 2560 by 1080 and everything I have seen has pointed me to Displayport or DVI for them. (I tend to use DVI just because it is on more of my stuff/older inexpensive monitors)

Ztcoracat, the link your shown, only shows one 16:10 aspect ratio monitor in the bunch. (if you go back and reread my post, I think your missing that/can't squeeze 16:10 out of 16:9). Monitors have multiple resolutions, and they can be capable of higher resolution then the OP asked for. Doesn't mean you have to set them to that. Due to my desktop limitations, dual monitors are the most I have done and that was more with my old Netbook more then anything (get tired of the small keyboard). Since it was Lubuntu, I just used the Monitor settings under the preference tab. Last time I looked at Xinerama was when I started dreaming about building a multi seat computer after the Linux Gazette article. (life expenses never justified the toy's)

I'd love to have the space for three monitors, but I think relistically I might be able to justify 1, 21:9 29" monitor. And now no debts that I can justify some toy's.
 
Old 12-29-2014, 07:17 AM   #20
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I have been running 3 different size monitors on 2 different video cards. I use a 27in Dell IPS at 2560x1440 as the main display, 24in Dell IPS at 1920x1200 in portrait, and a 23in Samsung at 1680x1050. I have run all 3 on a gigabyte gtx650ti for about a year and now on a gigabyte G1 gaming gtx970. So it is possible, I haven't had any problems at all. Everything works out of the box once I install the Nvidia Proprietary drivers. Also if it matters I run KDE on Slackware.
 
Old 12-29-2014, 10:15 AM   #21
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I find multi-monitor support very hard to dig out of the info shown for most video cards at NewEgg. But some of them seem to be clear. For example $180 for five monitor support with
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814129296
I have a question about this splitter cable that they use, does it clone monitors or are the displays independent ? Whenever I have used these in the past they clone monitors, but I only used VGA splitter cables and this is DVI.

I was expecting to buy a video card with 3 outputs, I mean that's what I would buy, but I guess it is cheaper to use such a cable.
 
Old 12-29-2014, 11:25 AM   #22
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I have used a splitter cable on the built-in graphics card on an old Dell Optiplex to obtain two different views under Windows so I can confirm that it can work in principal with a splitter cable.
I have seen them in the past also when looking into multi-monitor but as all I have are two monitors I've always had enough sockets -- more than enough when they had their own cards.

Edit: I hope you guys are happy for making me think about multi-munitors and graphics cards now! I'll blame you all if my bank ballance goes into the red

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Old 12-29-2014, 11:46 AM   #23
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I have a question about this splitter cable that they use, does it clone monitors or are the displays independent ?
That page at NewEgg seems to make clear that the result of that splitter is four independent DVI-D ports. The customer Q&A section includes plausible posts from "Tim K" indicating support for extending a desktop (not just cloning) to 5 monitors of 1920x1200. There is a contradictory post by "Jerome F", so I can't be 100% confident.

I'm still trying to decide how much extra cost would be justified by a resolution higher than 1920x1200. I really would prefer higher. On some other cards, using only half of however many DVI-D ports you have lets you support higher resolution than 1920x1200 on each of the ones you use. I can't tell whether that is true of this card. This card also has one mini display port connection that according to "Tim K" supports higher resolution independent of how the DVI-D ports are used (but it isn't clear what he might have actually tested).
 
Old 12-29-2014, 02:56 PM   #24
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Good to know. The monitor's I have been looking at, go to 2560 by 1080 and everything I have seen has pointed me to Displayport or DVI for them. (I tend to use DVI just because it is on more of my stuff/older inexpensive monitors)

Ztcoracat, the link your shown, only shows one 16:10 aspect ratio monitor in the bunch. (if you go back and reread my post, I think your missing that/can't squeeze 16:10 out of 16:9). Monitors have multiple resolutions, and they can be capable of higher resolution then the OP asked for. Doesn't mean you have to set them to that. Due to my desktop limitations, dual monitors are the most I have done and that was more with my old Netbook more then anything (get tired of the small keyboard). Since it was Lubuntu, I just used the Monitor settings under the preference tab. Last time I looked at Xinerama was when I started dreaming about building a multi seat computer after the Linux Gazette article. (life expenses never justified the toy's)

I'd love to have the space for three monitors, but I think relistically I might be able to justify 1, 21:9 29" monitor. And now no debts that I can justify some toy's.
Thanks, I was under the assumption that monitors were designed for only one resolution.
The setting or default that the manufacturer sets. (Factory setting)

Without seeing 3 monitors and a PC up and running it was hard for me to understand how it's possible.
I may consider another purchasing another monitor to see what you mean.
 
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Thanks, I was under the assumption that monitors were designed for only one resolution.
The setting or default that the manufacturer sets. (Factory setting)

Without seeing 3 monitors and a PC up and running it was hard for me to understand how it's possible.
I may consider another purchasing another monitor to see what you mean.
Why not start with pulling up your monitor settings and try changing the resolution on that one?
One of the reasons monitors have different settings is RGB verses other specs, and then devices (bluray player, won't have the range a PC will, and the player tends to automatically default to 1080 or 720)
 
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Why not start with pulling up your monitor settings and try changing the resolution on that one?
One of the reasons monitors have different settings is RGB verses other specs, and then devices (bluray player, won't have the range a PC will, and the player tends to automatically default to 1080 or 720)
Never changed the resolution before so I'll try changing it and see what happens.
 
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In my experience using anything but the native resolution will look bad. A monitor only has a fixed number of pixels and the manufacturers attempt to keep them fairly square -- using anything but native resolution means using more than one pixel to represent a pixel so, in my oponion, is a bad idea for anything but video where it's less obvious.
 
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In my experience using anything but the native resolution will look bad. A monitor only has a fixed number of pixels and the manufacturers attempt to keep them fairly square -- using anything but native resolution means using more than one pixel to represent a pixel so, in my oponion, is a bad idea for anything but video where it's less obvious.
Thanks for the details on resolution; 273.
 
  


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