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Old 03-16-2018, 10:14 PM   #1
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Rescue data and settings from what was sda and is now sdb


About 10 months ago I setup a Dell Precision R5400 as a Linux Mint 18.0 64 Bit only computer.
I was very happy with the system until 2 weeks ago when the second of 2 Hard drives (/dev/sdb) started indicating coming failure.
When I pulled said drive out I found that some how the GRUB boot loader had been installed on /dev/sdb and only part of GRUB was installed on /dev/sda.
Therefore my system would not boot without both drives in place.
Not wishing to wait until the dieing drive 'did' I started trying to fix GRUB on the good drive.
Everything I tryed either did not work at all, or in one case worked partly so that I wound up not able to boot up at all, even with both drives back in the machine.
After that I removed both drives, installed a new drive, installed Mint from the same DVD again.
When that was up and running I put the former /dev/sda in the machine as /dev/sdb.
Now said drive is recognized by the new copy of the OS but will not allow me to do anything but look at the folders.
I would like to rescue the Pictures, Videos, and saved passwords from my browsers.
My trade has always been as a mechanic and my computer is a tool, I'm not a real techi.
Are there any non command line ways to allow me to use the stuff on the old drive?
If not, how would I go about making things on that drive usable?
 
Old 03-16-2018, 11:03 PM   #2
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Pics and videos is easy - maybe even f/f, but there are others as well. What about your email account(s) ?. Or do you only use web-based mail clients ?.
Personally I would try to resuscitate the old (good) drive as it has all the data in place. But we need to know what you did when you tried to fix grub.

Try this to see if the old system is still good. Open a terminal and run the following command (you'll neeed to enter your password). See if the second (old) system shows up in the boot menu, and if so try to boot it. Just to see if it's ok. Then we should be able to fix grub.
Code:
sudo update-grub
 
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Old 03-17-2018, 02:29 AM   #3
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RE: Rescue data and settings from what was sda and is now sdb

This is what it brought up. Thanks for the reply and in advance for any help given!

michael@michael-Precision-WorkStation-R5400 ~ $ sudo update-grub
[sudo] password for michael:
Generating grub configuration file ...
Warning: Setting GRUB_TIMEOUT to a non-zero value when GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT is set is no longer supported.
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-4.4.0-21-generic
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-4.4.0-21-generic
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.elf
Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
done
michael@michael-Precision-WorkStation-R5400 ~ $
 
Old 03-17-2018, 02:56 AM   #4
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^ that looks ok.
now this output:
Code:
sudo fdisk -l
and can you mount the partitions manually?
sth like
Code:
mkdir mnt; sudo mount /dev/sdbX mnt
?
and after doing that succesfully:
Code:
cd mnt; ls -al
 
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:03 AM   #5
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Not so ok for me as I was hoping the old system would be found and we could dual-boot into the old system. I guess maybe /boot was on the drive thrown away.
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Originally Posted by headturner View Post
Now said drive is recognized by the new copy of the OS but will not allow me to do anything but look at the folders.
This indicates the (old) system was found ok, but I don't understand the comment. What else do you want to do ?.
Let's see this as well (from a terminal)
Code:
df -hT
 
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:40 AM   #6
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the results of df -hT

michael@michael-Precision-WorkStation-R5400 ~ $ df -hT
Filesystem Type Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev devtmpfs 16G 0 16G 0% /dev
tmpfs tmpfs 3.2G 18M 3.2G 1% /run
/dev/sda1 ext4 886G 7.0G 834G 1% /
tmpfs tmpfs 16G 118M 16G 1% /dev/shm
tmpfs tmpfs 5.0M 4.0K 5.0M 1% /run/lock
tmpfs tmpfs 16G 0 16G 0% /sys/fs/cgroup
cgmfs tmpfs 100K 0 100K 0% /run/cgmanager/fs
tmpfs tmpfs 3.2G 32K 3.2G 1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdb3 xfs 1.4T 37M 1.4T 1% /media/michael/485bfd93-4368-4863-8ed4-ad6c64f5b646
/dev/sdb2 btrfs 41G 3.5G 35G 10% /media/michael/148c0eb9-e311-4904-bf25-842de0343b6a
/dev/sdb1 ext4 379M 38M 317M 11% /media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735
/dev/sdc1 fuseblk 466G 57G 410G 13% /media/michael/9C1852D11852A9D2
michael@michael-Precision-WorkStation-R5400 ~ $
 
Old 03-17-2018, 03:47 AM   #7
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If you've been a member that long, you should know to use [code] tags for readability.
Code:
Filesystem     Type      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
udev           devtmpfs   16G     0   16G   0% /dev
tmpfs          tmpfs     3.2G   18M  3.2G   1% /run
/dev/sda1      ext4      886G  7.0G  834G   1% /
tmpfs          tmpfs      16G  118M   16G   1% /dev/shm
tmpfs          tmpfs     5.0M  4.0K  5.0M   1% /run/lock
tmpfs          tmpfs      16G     0   16G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
cgmfs          tmpfs     100K     0  100K   0% /run/cgmanager/fs
tmpfs          tmpfs     3.2G   32K  3.2G   1% /run/user/1000
/dev/sdb3      xfs       1.4T   37M  1.4T   1% /media/michael/485bfd93-4368-4863-8ed4-ad6c64f5b646
/dev/sdb2      btrfs      41G  3.5G   35G  10% /media/michael/148c0eb9-e311-4904-bf25-842de0343b6a
/dev/sdb1      ext4      379M   38M  317M  11% /media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735
/dev/sdc1      fuseblk   466G   57G  410G  13% /media/michael/9C1852D11852A9D2
 
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:55 AM   #8
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What does this return ?.
Code:
ls -R /media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735
 
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Old 03-17-2018, 03:58 AM   #9
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that also works.
assuming the drive in question is sdb (or is it sdc?):
Quote:
Originally Posted by ondoho View Post
and can you mount the partitions manually?
sth like
Code:
mkdir mnt; sudo mount /dev/sdbX mnt
?
and after doing that succesfully:
Code:
cd mnt; ls -al
it would be sdb1, sdb2 and sdb3.
 
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Old 03-17-2018, 04:13 AM   #10
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Greetings: syg00 As I apparently do not know how to use "(code) tags" if you would share that with me, then I can post the latest results that seem rather large and likely hard to read if not posted properly

Michael
 
Old 03-17-2018, 04:36 AM   #11
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Easiest is to click on "Advanced" then the "#" button - it will generate the tags; just copy your data between the tags. You're right, that listing may be a mess; in deference to @ondoho, maybe try this instead, it should be a more compact listing.
Code:
find /media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735
 
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Old 03-17-2018, 04:53 AM   #12
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Quote:
michael@michael-Precision-WorkStation-R5400 ~ $ sudo fdisk -l
[sudo] password for michael:
Disk /dev/ram0: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram1: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram2: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram3: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram4: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram5: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram6: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram7: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram8: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram9: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram10: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram11: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram12: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram13: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram14: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/ram15: 64 MiB, 67108864 bytes, 131072 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 4096 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 4096 bytes / 4096 bytes


Disk /dev/sda: 931.5 GiB, 1000204886016 bytes, 1953525168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0xde4cab10

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sda1 * 2048 1886420991 1886418944 899.5G 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 1886423038 1953523711 67100674 32G 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 1886423040 1953523711 67100672 32G 82 Linux swap / Solaris


Disk /dev/sdb: 1.4 TiB, 1500301910016 bytes, 2930277168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x0006de91

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdb1 * 2048 819199 817152 399M 83 Linux
/dev/sdb2 819200 84711423 83892224 40G 83 Linux
/dev/sdb3 84711424 2930010111 2845298688 1.3T 83 Linux




Disk /dev/sdc: 465.8 GiB, 500107862016 bytes, 976773168 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos
Disk identifier: 0x00085710

Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
/dev/sdc1 * 2048 976771071 976769024 465.8G 7 HPFS/NTFS/exFAT
michael@michael-Precision-WorkStation-R5400 ~ $
/dev/sdc is a laptop drive thyat I was looking at via usb
 
Old 03-17-2018, 05:01 AM   #13
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Quote:
find /media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735
comes back even bigger.
[QUOTE]michael@michael-Precision-WorkStation-R5400 ~ $ find /media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/boot.readme
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/initrd
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/do_purge_kernels
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/vmlinux-3.16.6-2-desktop.gz
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/lost+found
find: ‘/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/lost+found’: Permission denied
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/sysctl.conf-3.16.6-2-desktop
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/device.map.old
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/fonts
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/fonts/unicode.pf2
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/backgrounds
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/aout.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/cbmemc.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/gfxterm.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/gettext.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/gfxmenu.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/plan9.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/zfs.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/nativedisk.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/gcry_whirlpool.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/zfscrypt.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/halt.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/cbtable.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/priority_queue.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/linux.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/bsd.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/loadenv.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/gcry_arcfour.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/parttool.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/cpio_be.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/hfspluscomp.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/iorw.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/hfsplus.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/uhci.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/video_colors.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/exfctest.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/luks.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/div_test.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/crc64.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/normal.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/xnu.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/raid5rec.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/hello.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/boot.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/xzio.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/memdisk.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/elf.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/tga.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/minix2.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/lsapm.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/squash4.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/functional_test.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/gcry_crc.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/part_msdos.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/vbe.mod
/media/michael/806dfa0b-410b-4d6c-8a91-d942ec190735/grub2/i386-pc/datehook.mod
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When I pulled said drive out I found that some how the GRUB boot loader had been installed on /dev/sdb and only part of GRUB was installed on /dev/sda.
Therefore my system would not boot without both drives in place.
The default install of Grub Legacy (which you are using) is to install Grub code to the MBR of what is seen as the primary drive (sda) by the installer. It doesn't matter which drive you are installing the OS to, this will be the case. You would see this if you were using a manual install option (referred to as Something Else in Mint) but if you used one of the auto-install options that would not show. In the case where you installed your system to /dev/sdb, the Grub code would be in the MBR of sda and the simplest solution would be to install Grub to the MBR of sdb: sudo grub-install /dev/sdb and then set /dev/sdb to first boot priority in the BIOS.

You indicate that sdb was going bad, what's on it? Is that the original Mint OS?

In post #6, your df output shows a Linux system on sda1, is that the new Mint? You also show three partitions on sdb each with a different filesystem, is that the old drive which was going bad? As pointed out above, if you are able to mount those partitions and view them, you should not have any problem copying data FROM those partitions if mounted correctly unless there is a corrupted filesystem.

Identify which drive is which, the 931GB drive is the new Mint??
The 1.4GB is the old going bad drive??
 
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