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Old 01-25-2016, 07:46 PM   #1
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Need nVidia 210 driver for Ubuntu 14.04 - where how to find? Install?


I searched similar threads but way over my head and not helpful.

I updated OS Ubuntu 12.04 to 64bit and CPU to q8400. does it matter if OS is 64bit? I am running VMs on this box.

I did this:
http://www.howopensource.com/2012/10...-04-using-ppa/

and nvidia card remains dead.

This card was running fine on this same C2D DG33FB Ubuntu 12.04 32bit outputting 720P on HDMI a few weeks ago.

I can't remember how I got correct driver before (couple years ago). Thanx
 
Old 01-26-2016, 12:15 AM   #2
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Hi...

Did you try installing the Nvidia driver from "Additional Drivers" first? If so, what was the result? Also, please open a terminal and post the entire results from this command...

Code:
lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A 12
Lastly, when you said the card "remains dead," do you mean there's no video output whatsoever?

Regards...
 
Old 01-26-2016, 01:12 PM   #3
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clockdoc, please undo all that ppa stuff you did.

then we need a little info about your hardware and drivers.
could it be you have hybrid graphics?
please post the output of
Code:
lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d'
if you have indeed 2 cards in ther, chances are you need a hybrid graphics setup like bumblebee.

compare the output you get with points 2. and 3. of this archwiki article (2. Determine...):
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/NVIDIA#Installing

do not install anything yet, just ascertain which version number you need (nvidia-304xx, nvidia-340xx, nvidia...).


then, go to additional drivers again and see if you can find a suitable match for the information you gained.
 
Old 01-26-2016, 05:00 PM   #4
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Correction - this system is now 14.04 64

I did go to settings>software&updates>additional drivers and got "no additional drivers available" and "no proprietary drivers are in use"

Yes - nVidia 210 card as zero output.

Other than the intel integrated video, I only have the one Zotac Geforce fanless "silent" 210.

Synaptic repositories give me dozens of what appear to be vid driver choices with no clear instructions.

Undo the other stuff? I can just switch to a cloned drive and start over. I can have that done by tomorrow. Here is the command line analysis you asked for below. Please give me you opinions on how to do this and if i can just overwrite or replace what's going on here, or just start clean tomorrow.

What baffles me is how easy it was to install this card and get it running on 12.04 two years ago. Can't remember how I did it. May have been pure luck.

To reiterate - My error - This OS is 14.04x64 LTS.
----------------------------------

adam@adam-desktop:~$ lspci -nnk | grep VGA -A 12

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller [8086:29c2] (rev 02)

Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:5044]

Kernel driver in use: i915

00:03.0 Communication controller [0780]: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express MEI Controller [8086:29c4] (rev 02)

Subsystem: Intel Corporation Desktop Board DP35DP [8086:5044]

Kernel driver in use: mei_me

00:19.0 Ethernet controller [0200]: Intel Corporation 82566DC-2 Gigabit Network Connection [8086:294c] (rev 02)

Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device [8086:0001]

Kernel driver in use: e1000e

00:1a.0 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #4 [8086:2937] (rev 02)

Subsystem: Intel Corporation Desktop Board DP35DP [8086:5044]

Kernel driver in use: uhci_hcd

00:1a.1 USB controller [0c03]: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) USB UHCI Controller #5 [8086:2938] (rev 02)

adam@adam-desktop:~$
-----------------------------------

adam@adam-desktop:~$ lspci -k | grep -iEA5 'vga|3d'

00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)

Subsystem: Intel Corporation Device 5044

Kernel driver in use: i915

00:03.0 Communication controller: Intel Corporation 82G33/G31/P35/P31 Express MEI Controller (rev 02)

Subsystem: Intel Corporation Desktop Board DP35DP

Kernel driver in use: mei_me

adam@adam-desktop:~$

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Old 01-26-2016, 05:25 PM   #5
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Using your hints and going here to nVidia driver search:
http://www.nvidia.com/download/drive...px/95165/en-us
http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx

I obtained this:
340.96
Release Date: 2015.11.16
Operating System: Linux 64-bit
Language: English (US)
File Size: 66.59 MB

Excellent - thanks - Now to install, I await your advisory
 
Old 01-27-2016, 11:13 AM   #6
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your lspci output does not even show any nvidia card.
you are running purely on the intel (onboard?) graphics.

until you get your operating system to recognize the card, there's nothing to do.

go into bios and see if it is recognized there. maybe you have to switch to the nvidia card manually.
if not, take the card out, softly clean the contacts, see if everything looks ok, reinsert it.

ps:
not a hybrid graphics setup, since you say that you yourself instlled the 2nd card.

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Old 01-27-2016, 11:50 AM   #7
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Depending on the age of the machine, you may have to disable the onboard graphics in the BIOS before the second card will be recognized...
 
Old 01-27-2016, 05:33 PM   #8
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Thanks for heads up, I'll check the BIOS. I kind of expected the OS to detect SOMETHING! If it was used for HDMI output from this card with previous 12.04, would BIOS setting change? I can always test the card on a Windows system if necessary. If I get this detection sorted out should I match the driver version to same in synaptic repositories and install?


Hey I love this old Intel DG33FB C2D "classic". I've tarted it up with Quad core, 8GB RAM and am running fresh install XP-Pro in V-box. I have several other more "moderne" win7 & Win8/10 systems, a Brix HTPC in coffee table, but realistically the fastest $1-$2K i7 overclocked PCs only have advantage in hi intensity rendering, transactional systems, hi-end gaming etc. I used this box with 12.04 for Netflix 720P for a couple of years prior to this reincarnation with a 4400 CPU and only 3GB RAM. It takes surprisingly little power and processing muscle to perform 90% of tasks in small business, home entertainment use. I love Marketing goaded tech envy because I buy used second & third hand systems from early adopters. Thanks for all your help on this. I'll be watching EXPANSE Putlocker on a low end "used" Brix with slightly faster 2core processor 4GB SODIMM DDR3 - nearly equal to this C2D.
 
Old 01-28-2016, 02:02 PM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by clockdoc View Post
Thanks for heads up, I'll check the BIOS. I kind of expected the OS to detect SOMETHING! If it was used for HDMI output from this card with previous 12.04, would BIOS setting change? I can always test the card on a Windows system if necessary. If I get this detection sorted out should I match the driver version to same in synaptic repositories and install?
you will check the bios?
why didn't you do it already?
if it doesn't show up in lspci, this (most probably, like 99% *) has nothing to do with the operating system. maybe the card just died? happens, esp. with a fanless geforce 210.

(*) you can still check "dmesg" output if you can find it there. i think
Code:
dmesg | grep -iA5 nv
shoud suffice, but maybe you have to sift through ALL of it.
 
Old 01-29-2016, 04:59 PM   #10
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I'll pull some other know good cards and switch them around and also test an identical spare DG33FB and put the pasive card in that. Thanks for suggestions.
 
Old 01-31-2016, 02:29 PM   #11
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As a post script I'll explain the state the project.

C2D DG33FB running Ubuntu 14.04 will not detect a populated live known good proven working nvidia PCIex16 card. BIOS video set to auto & PCIE PEG. Security setting "expansion card text" set to ENABLE so card can talk to BIOS.

PEG still reads zero (0)
PEG = PCI EXP Graphics Link Mode

Installed generic linux drivers for each card and still not detected. tried on 3 cards Zotac 210, Asus 210 amd AMD R7. Cards are then returned or swapped to other Win systems and continue to function normally.


Search internet for ways means to force Linux to detect PCIe. No Joy. Don't bother scolding me for using low-end video cards.

I have Intel BIOS update ISO will try flashing BIOS.
I will flash BIOS from Itel ISO
old DPP3510j.86A.0413
new DPP3510j.86A.0517

Strongly suspect it is a LINUX problem OR (less likely), dead PCIex16 slot??

I've got spare DG33FB, 3GB RAM and an E8400 CPU. But right now all my drives are in use. I have the spare cloned drive for Ubuntu w/ Vbox. So I'll test with that. It will boot on the DG33FB C2D and tell me if it is a bad PCIe slot or BIOS. If that comes up negative I'll get some more HDDs - wait - I've got a 2.5" 160GB drive around here somewhere.....


To bad I'm not getting paid for this - ha ha. But just think of this. the C2D series of intel system boards are probably the most ubiquitous commonplace standardized set of 2nd class surplus systems widely used for Linux in general and Ubuntu conversions in particular. I would have expected all the driver problems to have long ago been solved on these old Intel boxes.


Funny thing is - I switched out the 2 nVidia 210s. I stuck the Asus passive fanless card out of the Intel C2D Ubu box into my ten year old Dell MSI XP Home system to test in case it was dead. A 15 year old WinOS detected the new card, and even though it was the same model 210 nVidia card as the Zotac fan type I removed, it automatically downloaded and installed a new set of drivers WITHOUT ME TOUCHING THE KEYBOARD OR MOUSE. It never so much as Blinked during this process, then finally gave a big wiggle on screen, sighed and a pop-up said - "Reboot me I have a new video driver". And that's why I luv my ExPee.


Yeah I have Win7/8/10 and other Linux systems as well. But XP hasn't really been improved upon in any meaningful way other than invisible security details which could have been worked out with updates. Win7 file system was wrecked wif idiotic lie-berries. Win8/8.1 GUI is a disaster. Win10 telemetry is spyware. Linux Ubunk-too can't find video cards. Makes me laff.


Thanks guys - It has been a great help boncing off your ideas. I don't have these problems often enough to get good at it. I'll have to pursue this further by other means.
 
  


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