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View Poll Results: Which OS do/did you favor the most?
Amiga Workbench OS (Any Version) 6 20.00%
Apple Mac OS (Any Version) 1 3.33%
LINUX (Any Distro) 18 60.00%
BSD (Any Distro) 0 0%
UNIX (Any Distro) 0 0%
MS Dos (Any Version) 0 0%
IBM PC Dos 0 0%
IBM OS2 2 6.67%
MS Windows (Any Version) 1 3.33%
Other 2 6.67%
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Old 04-10-2003, 01:45 PM   #1
Paul Parr
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Amiga OS and Linux Merger


Anyone remember The Amiga WorkBench OS?

Linux reminds me so much of that, except it never was Open Source either, but it has through repeated miracle after miracle survived over 20 years. Its still around today believe it or not at http://www.amiga.de/ How did it survive, the USER community would not let it die, even when it switched ownership about 10 times.
Anyone remember the names of all the companies who owned amiga since Commodore?

I read some rumors from articles about 3 years old that hinted on trying to get the Amiga OS to go Open Source. This was long before Mac OS X was introduced with the BSD Unix Core called Darwin.

Would the Amiga going open source mean a merger of Unix/LInux with the Amiga code, and would it be worthy competition for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS?
Is the Amiga over, or could there be resurgeance in the future?

I remember all the years of heated debate over which was better Amiga or Windows, just like the continued debate now over Linux and Windows.

How much of Linux was borrowed from the Amiga Workbench?

I think if the Amiga Community and the Linux community bonded through a new product like "Aminux", or "Liniga", they could give Windows a real run for its money.

Although I think the BeOS was/is based on Amiga and unix/Linux isn't it?
 
Old 04-10-2003, 03:55 PM   #2
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>>Would the Amiga going open source mean a merger of Unix/LInux with the Amiga code.
..um, no, why would it?

>>How much of Linux was borrowed from the Amiga Workbench?
about 0.00% of it.
 
Old 04-10-2003, 04:11 PM   #3
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Still love that old Amiga OS. It is the first machine i owned. I learned C on it.....

Jaap
 
Old 04-10-2003, 04:27 PM   #4
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Re: Amiga OS and Linux Merger

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I read some rumors from articles about 3 years old that hinted on trying to get the Amiga OS to go Open Source. This was long before Mac OS X was introduced with the BSD Unix Core called Darwin.
3 years in the IT industry is like 200 years in Earth time..

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Would the Amiga going open source mean a merger of Unix/LInux with the Amiga code, and would it be worthy competition for Linux, Windows, and Mac OS?
Is the Amiga over, or could there be resurgeance in the future?
I think you would need to ask Amiga this question. But it probably runs on a 0.001% of computers worldwide most likely now. I think it still might have a chance you think ?

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I remember all the years of heated debate over which was better Amiga or Windows, just like the continued debate now over Linux and Windows.
Linux is better, there is no debate on that..

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How much of Linux was borrowed from the Amiga Workbench?
None, it wasn't open source like you mentioned before and Linux was written from scratch.

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I think if the Amiga Community and the Linux community bonded through a new product like "Aminux", or "Liniga", they could give Windows a real run for its money.
Why when Linux is pretty much doing that on its own and Amiga is pretty much extinct.

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Although I think the BeOS was/is based on Amiga and unix/Linux isn't it?
Nope, why would it be. Unix was pretty much the first Unix OS, hence its name.. Unix. Linux is its own code, written from scratch but is just a Unix clone or variant of it.
 
Old 04-10-2003, 05:01 PM   #5
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Ahh but did you know Unix was originally written to be a platform for computer games???? (just thought I'd mention that - no real particular reason other than Nosalgia).

Does anybody remember those superb Amiga games Zool and the Chaos Engine??
 
Old 04-10-2003, 05:35 PM   #6
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Ahh but did you know Unix was originally written to be a platform for computer games????
That's not quite accurate :)

The guys tried to port their game from the
GECOS to a PDP-7 and didn't like the
way it handled files and graphics :) ... the
reason for that move was the "chunkieness"
of the game on the big machine, and
the fact that a game cost about 75$ of
CPU time ;) which was a lot back in 69 ...

See The Evolution of the Unix Time-sharing System
for more detail ... :D



Cheers,
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Old 04-10-2003, 05:38 PM   #7
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Ahh but did you know Unix was originally written to be a platform for computer games????
That's not quite accurate.... that's utterly totally completely wrong. try reading up a little about bell labs / multics etc....
 
Old 04-10-2003, 05:55 PM   #8
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*sigh*

And I'm still waiting for any operating system
to double the functionality of OS/s'2 WPS and
SOM/DSOM ... best Corba-implementation I
ever saw! :)

And the sweetest, smoothest multi-tasking.

Cheers,
Tink

Proud former member of TeamOS/2 &
IBM certified OS/2 engineer
 
Old 04-11-2003, 06:41 PM   #9
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Ohh well never mind I have been informed incorrectly (Best tell my Lecturer before he sets our final Exams)

Unix was originally however an "O/S learning platform" though, or again am I off the ball.

To be hones t havent looked too much into it

My understanding was Unix Created for Games/Learning about O/S mechanics then somebody realised hey this O/S is pretty good for Server work and budda bip budda bop budda bap, here we are today.
 
Old 04-16-2003, 12:22 PM   #10
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Re: Re: Amiga OS and Linux Merger

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Originally posted by trickykid

>I remember all the years of heated debate over which
>was better Amiga or Windows, just like the continued
>debate now over Linux and Windows

Linux is better, there is no debate on that..
Quite so, but the debate about the Amiga being better continued even after five or more years of zero OS development for Amiga verses the launch of Win95 and 98 in the Windows camp.

Linux is better than Windows because there is a constant development effort being pushed into helping it keep up, but Amiga was so far ahead of it's time that it was still competitive in some respects for many years, depsite everything that MS threw into Windows.

The Amiga had a fantastic OS and fantastic hardware. It is amazingly powerful and expandable, and phenominally user-friendly, which is one of the reasons why there are still people using them today.

(btw - I still have my Amy on my desk, and I still fire her up ever now and then, because there are still a few things I can do with a 10 year old 60mhz Amiga that I can't do so easily with my 1.2Ghz PC. )
 
Old 04-16-2003, 12:43 PM   #11
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Originally posted by dai
Ohh well never mind I have been informed incorrectly (Best tell my Lecturer before he sets our final Exams)

Unix was originally however an "O/S learning platform" though, or again am I off the ball.

To be hones t havent looked too much into it

My understanding was Unix Created for Games/Learning about O/S mechanics then somebody realised hey this O/S is pretty good for Server work and budda bip budda bop budda bap, here we are today.
That's why before making comments you not totally sure about or haven't looked into, you should go read about first, so your information is accurate. And your off the ball of Unix being a OS for "Learning Platform" orginially as well..

Can I suggest you reading up about Unix at www.bell-labs.com as from the history page they have about Unix, it states this:

"Like another legendary creature whose name also ends in 'x,' UNIX rose from the ashes of a multi-organizational effort in the early 1960s to develop a dependable timesharing operating system."
 
  


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