No, I am saying that Wine is in no way related to Steam. If you want to run Windows games using Steam you will have to run Steam itself in Wine. You may be able to manually add a game that needs Wine to your Linux Steam client, but then you won't get automatic updates, Workshop and SteamCloud integration, ..., making that kind of excercise kind of pointless, unless that game is not available on Steam.
The only emulator that can be directly used by default from Steam is DosBox, which is used to ship many older games on Steam.

Steam and WINE are two different bits of software. I had not realised that some games running fron Steam under Linux usex WINE wrappers but that does not mean that running the Windows version of Steam using WINE will even work at all.

Just think about it.

I didn't say steam was related to wine or vice-versa. Who would ever conclude that anyway.


That's what i already said.

I'll let you think about it, because people are doing exactly that.

Yes, and it works flawlessly, doesn't it?
Just like your set-up -- no problems there...
Valve did not make Steam OS to run the WINE version of Steam, at least as far as I can make out. It might, perhaps, even defeat the object?

Steam for Linux runs very well in Wine after you do "winetricks steam", and so do many of the triple A games you can launch from it. Most games up to and including the Xbox 360 generation (DirectX 9) work.

Valve also supports that with documentation.

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/...am_under_Linux

Sorry, then, my mistake. I didn't realise Valve made Steam OS to run Steam for Windows under WINE. Apologies, the release of SteamOS was, obviously, to encourage the production of Windows games and the use of WINE and not native Linux games. It was an accident that Steam happened to run on Linux.

You've already been talking to Rinndalir too much. You're starting to adopt his habit of snidely moving the goal posts and changing the subject whenever it's strategically convenient. Just don't pick up his habit of intentionally withholding information even when called on it (which makes you wonder if his claims are true).

Speaking of the subject:

The only steam-for-Linux game I'm aware of that's actually running in Wine is System Shock 2. There may well be others (Codeweavers is a porting house, after all), and if Rinnaldir suspects that the Linux versions of those games are running in Wine, then he can google and/or inspect them himself.

The Steam-for-Linux client itself would not be using Wine. It was likely written using a widget toolkit that's been tweaked to look the same on each platform. Probably Qt.

I apologise to you and to Rinndalir for being a bit rude. If Valve support Steam using WINE on Steam OS then I admit I'm wrong. Otherwise I'll admit only to being a bit pedantic.

Well, it depends what you mean by support. Hosting a wiki IMHO counts as support.

YES it's true that Valve created SteamOS to encourage Linux-native games to be created, bought and played.

Some more impressions and observations on SteamOS. There is an option
to use the beta release of the steam client that runs on SteamOS. I
may try this next. So far the experience has been okay. The boot up
seems a little slow but not bad. But the shutdown is very quick, which
is nice.

A couple of confusing things that I had to research a little bit.

1) If you buy a game on mac/windows/linux and it is a Steamplay game then if the game runs on other platforms than you are allowed to run it there.
It is confusing because the icon for SteamOS is before the "Steamplay" and I thought they were the same.
Steamplay Example: You buy a game on Steam for Windows and later they port to SteamOS then you can run it on SteamOS and you don't have to buy a separate copy.

2) I can't find my wishlist. I can see it on the regular steam client but not on SteamOS steam client.


I still haven't researched how to login to the steam account. I did login to the desktop account to see what's running on the box.
Nothing too surprising to see. If you are familiar with debian jessie than it will be familiar to you.


The interface needs work but I need to try the beta steam client before I complain about it as they may have improvements only seen in beta right now.

Me too.

Another thing to note is that I am using only the keyboard and mouse. They have done a lot of work around game controllers and Valve have made their own controller but it's not released yet. I will get an xbox or playstation controller to see how they work.

I use an XBox360 controller for gaming (most PC games that support controllers are aimed at that controller by default) and it works just fine (as do my other controllers, a Speedlink Drift OZ steering wheel and a Logitech Extreme 3D Pro joystick). I am interested in the Steam controller also, looks like a fine design (also, Steam controller support will come with the 4.3 kernel).

I may wait for their controller, it does look good, I hope it uses wake-on-button-press.