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Old 03-10-2004, 12:20 AM   #1
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How do you install games


How do I install PC games on Mandrake LInux 9.2?

I am thinking of going back to windows.. I can not do anything on linux, its like everything is a problem, more problems then windows and its slow. almost 90% of all software around wonr run with it. Now I know why its free.

BUt yea, how do I install games? Like UT, and Counter Strike?
 
Old 03-10-2004, 02:14 AM   #2
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have you enabled DMA?
it is NOT enabled by default

from a terminal as root
hdparm -d /dev/hda
if it reads as off

hdparm -d1 /dev/hda

there's more options for this command, there's LOADS of posts here explaining how to do this

UT installs ok, you need the install script from lokigames (you'll need to hunt for it, but it is there)
quake3 installs ok
UT2003 can be installed too
there's loads of posts on that too
 
Old 03-10-2004, 02:59 AM   #3
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all the games you mentioned run great on linux...

you can search http://www.google.com/linux to get more info about games or anything linux-related...

some games (for example, UT2003) come with a linux installer out-of-the-box...

there's also wine, which you can use to run windows software on linux:

http://www.winehq.org/




with all due respect... is it really necessary for you to put linux down like that when you ask a question???

THIS IS A PLACE TO SHARE KNOWLEDGE, not to vent frustration...


perhaps an analogy might be in good order:

it's like you were driving a very flashy ford mustang with automatic transmission all your life and then one day you get to try an f-22 raptor and while you're sittin' there on the runway getting ready for takeoff you complain to the air force that the raptor doesn't have a motorized cupholder like your mustang, the seat feels way too different, and the whole stick-controlled concept sucks because you like using a steering-wheel...


it's not weird that you have tons of problems at first, as you are a non-technical windows user who's just taking his first steps with linux, a totally different, very technical system...


- if you _really_ wanna enjoy all the benefits of RUNNING linux, then you need to have the will and desire to learn something new and think outside of the microsoft box...

- if you just wanna USE linux and don't really care to know anything about running it, then it would be a good idea to get a friend with technical linux knowledge to install and configure everything and to keep the root password away from you...

- if you wanna stick to windows, then by all means stick to windows... linux isn't for everyone, and it might not be for you...


THE LINUX COMMUNITY IN GENERAL, AND THE LINUX QUESTIONS DOT ORG COMMUNITY IN PARTICULAR, WILL ALWAYS BE HERE FOR YOU TO HELP YOU WITH YOUR LINUX ADVENTURE IN ANY WAY POSSIBLE...

=)
 
Old 03-10-2004, 03:03 AM   #4
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if you want step by step help with dma just ask
i'm more than happy to oblige
 
Old 03-10-2004, 04:09 AM   #5
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@ Win32sux

hahaha, im sorry for putting Linux down,...but as you said, I am just taking my first steps on to a new OS, I know that I will be able to adapt to Linux easily, as I am not computer illiturate..im just not use to the ways of Linux..And I said I was thinking of going back to Windows, I would never do that.

SOrry for putting Linux down.

@ salparadise
I did what u said to do in Konsole, and it said it was off, so I turned it on...what does it do..and what does 'DMA' stand for?

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Old 03-11-2004, 08:07 AM   #6
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DMA is Direct Memory Access. It allows devices to contact the memory directly rather than go through a request through the system.
 
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Old 03-11-2004, 08:28 AM   #7
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as in UDMA 33/66/100 the numbers are speeds

the command i use is as follows

hdparm -d1 -c1 -k1 /dev/hdx (x = different drives)

-d1 turns dma on - this greatly increases the speed at which data moves around the system
-c1 turns 16bit i/o support into 32 bit
-k1 says keep all settings even when a drive reset is ordered

there are other hdparm options - see "man hdparm" for details
edit the /etc/rc.local file by opening a terminal, su'ing to root and typing
gedit /etc/rc.local
because rc.local is a system file you can only edit it as root
you don't have to use gedit, you can use kate or kedit or whatever text editor you like

scroll to the end of the file and add

hdparm -d1 and so on
repeat for each drive present
on my system this is
hda =hard drive
hdc =dvd drive
hdd =writer
once you have saved and exited, the next time you boot up DMA and so on is enabled saving you the hassle of doing it from the command line each time
 
Old 03-11-2004, 02:33 PM   #8
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heres a place where you can get the cvs version of winex, a neat little thing that runs windows games on linux (not guarenteed, though...).
http://transgaming.org
 
Old 03-11-2004, 04:33 PM   #9
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you can play windows games on linux!

It's quite easy to play windows games on linux. All you need is-

WineX- cost $5 a month for the subscription (they must through in any diretx stuff needed to play)
A video card that supports 3D. Just go into your display settings and figure out if you do or not. Most likley you do if you have a newer computer (I have a rage 128 pro, and I need to know where to get the linux driver! If you know, tell me! just look for my AAO post!).

You can also get the free version of Wine, by going to winehq.com. Make sure you download the RPM, not the sourcecode. If you have the windows disk, try to get the real dlls in there, mabye the stuff will run better, or goto www.dll-files.com.

Try using Redhat Linux after you get used to linux it's self. I started out with Mandrake, then moved over to rehat, and I love it!, even though Mandrake linux is almost as good. Mabye the two should join together to form one linux distrobution

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Old 03-11-2004, 05:38 PM   #10
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*OFF TOPIC*
has anyone looked at kernel 2.6.4? im thinking of doing an upgrade, to experiment with the new stability and speed, etc., but i just want to know anyone else has gotten along.
 
Old 03-11-2004, 06:08 PM   #11
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*note: happy mandrake users, don't hurt me...

i have noticed your several threads regarding your problems, /home/kyle; and ya, it defnitely seems more than it is worth... most people usually don't have That many problems

i think i can attribute your problems to mandrake itself and you should perhaps try a new distro; suse or slackware come directly to mind (redhat may not be a bad idea either)

as for things not working on linux... umm, that is becasue the software isn't built for linux... you don't put in "vice city" into an apple computer and expect it to work

you don't necessarily have to "learn" anything in linux, just get accustomed to the way linux systems handle business; yes you may have to edit a few files here and there, and most of the time this is a one-time-thing (excpet when you get into wine, you will notice that you will often have to do a Lot of tinkering to get programs you want running)

going back to the topic, the games you mentioned work Very well under linux; go ahead and download wine from www.winehq.com; compile it by doing
cd wine-20040309
./tools/wineinstall

it will automatically setup wine for you (but it does take about an hour to compile)

this wine is free and runs plenty of games for me, including simcity4, baldur's gate, warcraft3 and red alert

start by compiling wine and then doing wine notepad; if notepad runs, then you are good to start tinkering with wine (with our help if you need it, of course)

here is a link to getting counterstrike running:
http://frankscorner.org/modules.php?...tid=110&page=1
(it is for halflife, but will work nonetheless)

here is a link to get UT (i assume the first one) running Natively in linux (and through wine if you would like that)
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...eal+tournament
i wrote this one, so i should be able to help you with problems

*btw: make sure you have gfx drivers installed; also, i tend to find that slowness is often caused by the way the operating sytem is built and have found mandrake to be an extremely slow OS
 
Old 03-12-2004, 10:58 AM   #12
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SORRY i HAVENT COME BACK AND POSTED HERE, I was busy trying to get my sound workin...which I still havent succesfully done .

I got counter strike running on Wine (Im not going to pay 5 bucks a month unless I HAVE TO)
I just cant type anything, so..I cant type the cd-key =/.
 
Old 03-12-2004, 11:05 AM   #13
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edit your ~/.wine/config file

find the option DXGrab (under x11drv i believe) and set it to Y; make sure the line is uncommented (make sure it does NoT have a ";" before it)
 
Old 03-12-2004, 11:43 AM   #14
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I edited my ~/.wine/config file... set DXGrab to Y, and it has no ";" befor it...but still. no typing, so I typed it and just copy and pasted it in . BUt I got some error, im sure its no biggie, said somthing about drivers, im sure its probably my graphics card drives, I have not installed them yet.
 
  


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