HLDS on old pentium 3

Mevdor · 09-11-2022, 02:03 PM

hi noob here - I want to put HLDS on a pentium 3 450mhz with 384 ram. I was advised to get an up-to-date linux distro that wil work with those specs. I tried Q4OS and antix linux but they wudnt install right. can anyone suggest what I might do from here?

wpeckham · 09-11-2022, 03:00 PM

In what way or with what issues did they not install right?
With a Pentium-3 you will most likely need a 32-bit distribution has all packages compiled to the i686 (or even i386) standard. You MIGHT get an old Debian image for that, but the only ones I know that really support it are anti-X and alpine. Even with those, make sure you get the image that supports old 32-bit.

I do not know EVERYTHING, so there may be some others, but these days the pickings are slim. Many distributions have gone so far as to ONLY support X86_64 (and possibly ARM-64) and have dropped support for those older processors.

For reference

Quote:

HLDS may refer to:

Half-Life Dedicated Server, a computer programming framework
Hitachi-LG Data Storage, a joint venture between Hitachi and the LG group
Hoek van Holland Strand railway station, in the Netherlands

I assumed you meant Half-Life Dedicated Server. Is that correct?
If so, two things strike me: 1. You would need (I believe) STEAM, and I am not sure it will run on that device. 2. If it does, I would not expect to be happy with the performance.

If someone has experience with this and I am totally off base, please correct me.

Mevdor · 09-11-2022, 03:19 PM

hi wpeckham - yep its Half-life dedicated server I shud hav said that. thanx for your reply.
u dont need steam - my aim is just to hav it as a lan server for half life for like 8 players.
here's some info on it

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/wiki/HLDSUpdateTool

https://developer.valvesoftware.com/...dicated_Server

michaelk · 09-11-2022, 04:08 PM

Antix would be my first choice and should work what did not work?

Mevdor · 09-16-2022, 07:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelk

Antix would be my first choice and should work what did not work?

hey michael - antiX-21_386-base installed fine, but when I booted it up, after all the files loaded the monitor goes to sleep

michaelk · 09-16-2022, 09:40 PM

What is the model of video card?

rokytnji · 09-17-2022, 09:26 AM

screen blanking options terminal command in antiX 21 is

Code:

xset q

Good luck.

Code:

inxi -zv8

gives out system specs in posts.

Mevdor · 09-17-2022, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michaelk

What is the model of video card?

hi michael - the BIOS only says 4MB sgram. From experience when i had windows 98 on it it said it was ATI that's all I remember

Mevdor · 09-17-2022, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokytnji

screen blanking options terminal command in antiX 21 is

Code:

xset q

Good luck.

Code:

inxi -zv8

gives out system specs in posts.

hey rokytnji - where do I put that - when it finishes loading files the screen goes blank so I cant see the terminal. I presume u mean at the initial options?

rokytnji · 09-17-2022, 04:52 PM

Quote:

the screen goes blank so I cant see the terminal.

Being low spec means probably some extra time to load might be the cause.

Moving the cursor brings my screen up when it blanks out.

Those are terminal commands I gave you. The xset command gives out options on time before screen blanking.

Code:

$ xset -q
Keyboard Control:
  auto repeat:  on    key click percent:  0    LED mask:  00000000
  XKB indicators:
    00: Caps Lock:   off    01: Num Lock:    off    02: Scroll Lock: off
    03: Compose:     off    04: Kana:        off    05: Sleep:       off
    06: Suspend:     off    07: Mute:        off    08: Misc:        off
    09: Mail:        off    10: Charging:    off    11: Shift Lock:  off
    12: Group 2:     off    13: Mouse Keys:  off
  auto repeat delay:  660    repeat rate:  25
  auto repeating keys:  00ffffffdffffbbf
                        fadfffefffedffff
                        9fffffffffffffff
                        fff7ffffffffffff
  bell percent:  50    bell pitch:  400    bell duration:  100
Pointer Control:
  acceleration:  2/1    threshold:  4
Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  600    cycle:  600
Colors:
  default colormap:  0x20    BlackPixel:  0x0    WhitePixel:  0xffffff
Font Path:
  /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,built-ins
DPMS (Energy Star):
  Standby: 600    Suspend: 600    Off: 600
  DPMS is Enabled
  Monitor is On

pay attention to

Code:

Screen Saver:
  prefer blanking:  yes    allow exposures:  yes
  timeout:  600    cycle:  600

Back when I 1st started learning this stuff. I LEARNED how to use midnight commander in cli boot up. Make a text file and save it.
Edit text files and save them in cli boot.
It was good thing to learn when I was in your situation. I AM ON MY MOTORCYCLE SHOP DESKTOP wifi COMPUTER presently. Caps lock turn on accidentally because that key sits right above shift key.

Code:

$ inxi -G
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430] driver: nvidia v: 390.154
  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: nvidia
    unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,nouveau,vesa gpu: nvidia
    resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  OpenGL: renderer: GeForce GT 430/PCIe/SSE2 v: 4.6.0 NVIDIA 390.154

wpeckham · 09-17-2022, 04:54 PM

Once it boots can you open an alternate terminal? ALT-F3 for example should open TTY3in text/terminal mode and allow you to log in on that terminal to use command line commands for troubleshooting and investigation. ALT-F1 on my system would send you back to the GUI, but it may be ALT-F6 on yours. It ccan be different for different configurations used in different versions or distributions.

rokytnji · 09-17-2022, 04:57 PM

Just in case

https://www.slitaz.org/en/get/flavors.php

Edit. unable to release cdrom means you run live off the cd without pulling out the disk. Like on Puppy which loads into ram stick.

Mevdor · 09-28-2022, 02:19 AM

thank u all for your help! I put antix 21 cli version for i386 on the pc. then I put HLDS on it from this page https://files.steamlessproject.nl/category.php?id=16 and it works great! gud use for an old machine