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View Poll Results: Your opinion about HL2 to be ported to Linux
Don't play games. 7 7.69%
Play my games on Windows and wouldn't bother with Linux 5 5.49%
Sure, if we get all the features from Windows I would use it. 61 67.03%
Cedega works fine for me. 2 2.20%
Use Cedega, but would rather use a native version. 16 17.58%
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Old 04-07-2006, 11:00 AM   #31
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Much better options to vote . Yup, I'd vote for number 2

@Alien_Hominid
Thanks for the link and for keeping it cool. I know a few peoples who would hunt me down with a showel for what I said about HL2 .

I've not played Lost Coast. I liked Doom, but they took away one thing that I love to do with games: Open a door, throw a grenade and watch the enemies fly. If somebody survived, just spray them . Gheh. Problem is, every room in Doom 3 is empty. Enemies will follow silly scripts and respawn in a 2-2 or 1-1 fashion (usually with one behind you...). Quake 4 is better, but I found amusing that despite everybody complaning about the flash-light with Doom 3, they decided to include the flash light with the two weak weapons only... I wonder if game developers actually have time to play the games and listen to the public. Just like you, however, I love the atmosphere of Doom and Quake. Doom 3 had a nice feeling of being alone all the time. You are more scared when you are alone

Lately, however, I am enjoying more WWII-based shooters

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Old 04-07-2006, 11:23 AM   #32
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I've got a few computers so I just play games in Windows and do other stuff in Linux.
 
Old 04-07-2006, 01:28 PM   #33
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Much better options to vote . Yup, I'd vote for number 2
And yet you list Wintendo XP SP2 as a distro. That choice places you with the [3] crowd. Not so?

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Steam works fine with mozilla active X extension in wine. You can read it in wine hq in supported apps list. I think half life 2 is not working properly in Linux because it is not as modular as Id's software, so it is much more difficult to port it to other os'es. There might be a lot of code which needs to be rewritten for Half Life to work, especially in networking section due to the difference between Windows and Linux.
So where do you stand?
 
Old 04-08-2006, 01:25 AM   #34
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And yet you list Wintendo XP SP2 as a distro. That choice places you with the [3] crowd. Not so?
Difficult question. The thing is: I play my games on Windows. However, I do, would prefer to play them all in Linux. I don't mind tweaking my programs, Operating system, kernel, configurations and etc. When it comes down to games, I just want to pop in the disk and play it. Anything requiring more than that I consider waste of time. So, to say where I stand 100% would be:


I play my games in Windows, but would ratter prefer to play them natively in Linux. Cedega works fine for a few games but I still prefer gaming on Windows for it's simplicity and much higher compatibility.


I think the best way is to have an option to vote for "others - please explain"
 
Old 04-08-2006, 07:13 AM   #35
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Indeed I can. I'm as much entitled to dislike this game as you are to like it. I'm not saying either that it's not worthy playing again because I did not like it. I've posted a few reasons why I don't think this game is worth replaying(despite the fact that steam and Valve and HL disgusts me): Too linear, too predictable. No replay value whatsoever (as unlockables or different endings). Come on, even cheap games as the Fantastic Four had a lot of unlockables and things/places to explore. Unlockables ranged from great interviews with Stan Lee up to 2 unlockable levels. HL2 did not even had a multiplayer when it came out. Graphically speaking, I was ratter unimpressed with HL2 as well. The facial muscles for NPC were great. However, the body of every character had the exact same build, except for the "main" NPC as Alyx and Barney. The textures were cheap and stuttering is still a problem for most players. The only thing I could applaude was the water reflection, but that has been done before.

I also would have appreciated if you had been more descriptive telling me where I was wrong. Just saying that it's worthy playing because of the 1984 feeling didn't say much. I still don't understand what you mean. 1984? A lot of things happened in 1984:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1984

Still, my biggest problem with HL2 is Steam. Having to ask Valve to "authorize" me to play a game that I've paid retail price for is also a pain. When a company starts to hurt the paying costumers to protect their software at the cost of my privacy, something went wrong and they don't realize that. A few days before the official release of HL2 there were copies of the game flying the net as torrents and fully operational.

And best game of the year titles mean nothing. It's a known fact that a lot of websites give good reviews to game so the game publishers can put their names/sites on the retail box. Gamespot started that way and today is considered even a respected source of reviews for games.

Get a better game as Doom 3 or Quake 4. It uses a real API (OpenGL) and the company behind those state-of-art games respect the few Linux users out there releasing the source as GLP when the engine gets relatively old. There's also Bioware and Atari that release games for Linux once in a while...
well i have to go with mega man on this one because i played hl2 and i really disappointed that i had to download half the game. i pay 99 dollars for the dvd i expect the whole game. as graphics are concerned i thought they were good but the sounds and stuff were the same sounds as half life one so that was a rip off. as a game of the year well i would have to say that doom 3 had that hands down.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 08:06 AM   #36
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You really mean that? I thought I was the only one who disliked HL2. I also agree that Doom 3 deserved the GOTY title better. Doom 3 replay value is, however, as bad as HL2 and the multiplayer is not really interesting. Still I loved to caught by surprise by the enemies and Doom 3 was perhaps the first game ever that kept me _really_ concentrated on both the visuals and the sounds .

That "feeling" was one cool thing with HL1. You had enemies jumping at you from unexpected places. It was scary, it had good atmosphere ^_^. HL2 has horribly designed maps. Remember "Ravenholm" stage? It had unlimited(yeah, unlimited) number of enemies coming from nowhere. This was a cheap tricky to make the stage harder and worked fine with 007 - Goldeneye, a game from 1997. For a game as new as HL2 this is inexcusable. Call of Duty had a similar tricky in the last Russian maps too... This breaks all the immersion from within a game, IMHO. (Still, I loved COD)

Quake 4 multiplayer is really cool though. Brought back me good memories from Quake 3 days ^_^.

HL2 is the last game I will play from Valve if they keep their Steam powered crap. I would not have anything against Steam (which works fine, for the most part) if you only needed it for the multiplayer part. But paying retail price for a game where you get half of it, an orange card with your CD-key and has to download the other half is pretty damn wrong. Valve had actually a lot of problems with law suits because of Steam. Nowhere on the box stands that Steam was a requirement. They've changed the policies though (Since the GOTY edition, every Valve game states clearly on the Box that Steam is a requirement, including the new Half-Life and Counter-Strike antologhy).

The thing is, I can still play Diablo 1 if I want to. I paid for it and the game is mine. The same could not be said about HL2. If Valve ever goes bankrupt (which I hope they do), you no longer will be able to play the game. You are allowed to play the game as long as Valve allows you to (or wait until somebody cracks it, which is no easy task). This is ok with a Massive RPG. For single player boxed games that's a no no and no...

Anyway, I will not talk about HL, Valve or CS anymore here. I never liked and never had fun with any of those games and I hate the company with all my heart. I want to forget them, not to get mad at them again .

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Old 04-08-2006, 10:09 AM   #37
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Difficult question. The thing is: I play my games on Windows. However, I do, would prefer to play them all in Linux. I don't mind tweaking my programs, Operating system, kernel, configurations and etc. When it comes down to games, I just want to pop in the disk and play it. Anything requiring more than that I consider waste of time. So, to say where I stand 100% would be:


I play my games in Windows, but would ratter prefer to play them natively in Linux. Cedega works fine for a few games but I still prefer gaming on Windows for it's simplicity and much higher compatibility.


I think the best way is to have an option to vote for "others - please explain"
HL2 is officially supported by TG. So if you played the game on Windows you prefer Windows over Cedega no matter what. You clearly state that you prefer playing Linux native games.

That places you firmly with [4].

You can now go ahead and vote.
 
Old 04-08-2006, 10:55 AM   #38
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That's correct. I've missed that option I'm voting now ^_^.


EDIT:
Wait, no. The question is: Your opinion about HL2 to be ported to Linux

My answer is still, I don't care about HL2

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Old 04-09-2006, 09:28 AM   #39
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That's correct. I've missed that option I'm voting now ^_^.


EDIT:
Wait, no. The question is: Your opinion about HL2 to be ported to Linux

My answer is still, I don't care about HL2
You bought the game and played it on Windows. I think this vote is directed at those who haven't
yet bought the game or at least are willing to consider the question of porting in a generalized way.

You admit to be neither. You have a right to participate, but you seem to be doing it to teach bento a lesson of sorts. Has he/she offended you in any way?
 
Old 04-09-2006, 12:41 PM   #40
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Nope. I've never even read a post from bento before (I could be wrong, because my memory is just horrible). In fact when you asked if bento had offended me in some way, I had no idea who bento was until I've looked at the OP name

Anyway, I've decided to vote for "Sure, if we get all the features from Windows I would use it.". I will look from the community point of view. HL2 is popular and a lot of Linux gamers would like to play this natively (it won't ever happen though). So I'm putting all my anger aside and voting for that because the community would enjoy the game. I, for one, will continue to avoid Valve games

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Old 04-11-2006, 12:36 PM   #41
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I agree that there are many FPS that I favor over HL2, I even like many of there mods more that I like CS:S, like the SAS to UT2004. But games is an important factor if open-source os's want to gain more users. When it gets to EA, they are the game industries answer to MS and their games contains a lot of bugs... though EA publish a lot of games they doesn't make themself I would like to se on Linux... But still, HL2 is one of the biggest games out there at this moment, so it's an important game.


nfrum:

That is right. I see HL2 as one of the most important games (along with BF2) that doesn't have a native installation. What Mega Man X said is that he would like to play them natively on Linux so option [3] would be correct if he actually was playing HL2. The poll was more just for fun to see a generall aspect of how the percentage of the different options would be, though it is kind of unfair to put it on a Linux only forum in the game section...

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Old 04-11-2006, 01:48 PM   #42
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Admitedly id Software and Epic have been the thriving force behind Linux gaming for many people, as their titles are almost warratied to be blockbusters... And now, Raven too (Q4). And they have had native clients from a while back (UT99 & Q3A, now Q1, Q2, U1, et al.), I've always questioned the motivation behind these moves, but have been always grateful at the same time, because that means latest games on my favorite platform. Better hardware support (NVIDIA), plus latest games available on the platform (id Software, Epic & Raven) can only mean reason for a lot of users to switch or at least approach to and try the platform, which in the end may end up resulting in a broader base. However I rekon that even though these are great, there are still others to follow suit, like Ubisoft, EA, et al. to bring forth to the Linux platform a broader list of games available...

I wonder if the Play Station 3 with its touted Linux desktop would bend the arms of some companis towards providing more native PC versions of their games... To the Linux platform... That would be awesome!

And while Half-Life 2 is an indisputble important title for the whole industry, so are the games produced by id Softeware, Epic Games and Raven Software... if only Valve and the rest of the gang would follow these companies, there's almost warratied to be a much broader Linux userbase (though not quite, I'm affraid, there's the whole issue of DRM and media formats still pending). Games (applications) support is an important aspet to drive Linux into the Desktop, but so it happens to be common media formats... which have proven to be even trickier (a two edged blade, if you will).
 
Old 04-25-2006, 05:51 PM   #43
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Don't forget the founders of Valve were former Microsoft employees. Also you'd have to rewrite very big parts of the Source engine to make it work on Linux. It's just not worth it. I think they should consider OpenGL if they were about to write a new engine, but I doubt they'd use that. What you can hope for though is better DirectX support in Wine (but you should really just dualboot if you want to run it, like me).
 
  


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