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Old 01-08-2007, 06:09 PM   #1
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Smile Cedega VS Wine


Was wondering if I could get some advice from you guys? I've been thinking of getting Cedega, but I haven't made up my mind yet. The games I play are WoW, Diablo II and WC3 Exp.

I have been running Wine in the current Slackware 11 OS for about the last 2 months. I had very little trouble installing and running it. It was fairly easy to tweak the performance of the most common games I play.

Wine has never crashed on my computer.

All in all you could say I am very satisfied with Wine...

But I've never tried Cedega. I could blow 15 USD on it, no big deal for me.

What would be a big deal, however, is if I paid the 15 USD and then the performance was WORSE than Wine. There are a lot of ppl dissing Cedega in favor of Wine on the Cedega forums, how many of these are just ppl with very little experience using Linux I'm not sure.

But for those of you who have tried both Cedega and Wine successfully, could you give me some idea as to the differences? Is Cedega generally better FPS and sound?

Do you think Cedega is worth it? Thanks for reading and I look forward to your responses.
 
Old 01-08-2007, 06:44 PM   #2
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On my Slackware 11 machine, Cedega just blows away WINE while running games. World of Warcraft was playable under WINE, sure, but when I ran it under Cedega I actually got higher FPS then I did under XP.

It has definitely worked much better on my machine then just plain WINE, but of course each person is going to have slightly different results.

By the way, unless something has changed, you can get Cedega from their CVS for free. It is the same software as the version they sell on the site, it just isn't compiled and packaged up. Doing a Google for "Cedega CVS" should give you all the information you need to get it going.

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Old 01-08-2007, 07:38 PM   #3
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Thanks for the tip, im going to give that a try!
 
Old 01-09-2007, 05:13 AM   #4
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Holy crap, installing Cedega from CVS is incredibly complicated.

Compiling Wine was a snap. It literally took me about an hour to get it up and running.

But if I pay the 15 bucks then they claim it will be extremely simple to install...
 
Old 01-09-2007, 06:45 AM   #5
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*Update*

I decided I would go and spend the $15.

Here is what I've found so far.

First, the packages available for Slackware on the transgaming website did not work for me (failed to install). AND there is no simple source package ready to be compiled (unlike Wine). I had to download a much older Cedega package, then use the auto updater to bring the version to current. Not a big deal but you would think they would have a workable package.

Second, the graphics performance of Cedega is noticably slower than that of Wine (current). However, the sound seems a little better.

I'm going to see if I can somehow bring the graphics performance up in cedega. I'll keep you updated. But so far I have to say Wine pwns Cedega...
 
Old 01-09-2007, 02:35 PM   #6
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may depend on the distro, but here using mandriva, I LOVE cedega. then again, I never tried WINE. it was to me complicated in getting to work. Cedega was a piece of cake and the games run smooth.
 
Old 01-09-2007, 08:52 PM   #7
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Okay, here is another update.

I was able to get Cedega running almost as fast as Wine in terms of FPS, but it was still a bit slower. However, since using Cedega I have had several crashes, which are no big deal if you're running on a seperate x-server...

However I have never crashed (like ever) using Wine.

BTW, the games I tested are WoW, WC3:TFT and Diablo II.

So basically WINE was at least as good FPS as Cedega, though slightly lower sound quality, but at the same time WINE seems much more stable.
 
Old 01-10-2007, 12:37 AM   #8
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Well, if compiling Cedega from CVS was easy, there wouldn't be any reason to sell it.

Strange you are having such problems though. Are you sure that Cedega is using hardware acceleration properly? What sort of video hardware do you have, and what drivers are you running?

I assume you are letting Cegeda use the appropriate per-game settings from their database?
 
Old 01-10-2007, 10:04 PM   #9
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Don't they make it hard so that people will buy it from them? I might not remember correctly, but doesn't it use WINE code, and therefore have to be GPL itself.

It seems unethical to me, and I wouldn't support them on those grounds alone. Wine seems better to me in that respect.
 
Old 01-11-2007, 06:24 PM   #10
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well,i think that wine is just as good as cedega. maybe better, because its free.
the major thing cedega needs is to make a boxed version so people can go out to the store and buy it
 
Old 01-18-2007, 04:43 AM   #11
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On linux-gamers.net there is a howto and a script for installing cedega cvs. I find it very easy and most importantly it works well. Here is the link - http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/...WTO+INDEX+Wine

Does someone compared cedega cvs vs winex?

P.S. The script on the site can install both.
 
Old 01-21-2007, 07:49 AM   #12
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The games you tested are some of the few that are very well supported in wine. Cedega has much more supported games.
I had great trouble with the cvs version, not with installing it, but with getting it to work. I tried it 3 years back, and I got it to run GTA3 and Vice City (more or less), but the last time I tried I didn't even get it to start anything up.

I wouldn't pay for cedega for the known reasons. Also, I'm happy that these projects exist, but in the long run I don't think it's a good idea to have very good emulation. The developers should start making more native linux games. If you want to encourage them, get the linux versions of Quake (1-4), Doom(1-3), Neverwinter Nights...
I'd rather see that coming.
 
Old 01-21-2007, 12:30 PM   #13
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on Debian Etch, Cedega will not install. it constantly asks for xlibs, but xlibs has been replaced with 2 other packages just in name, but the files are still installed. yes Cedega refuses to install as a result.

the folks over at TG are also refusing to refund money paid even though their software is not compatible with my distro so TG and Cedega can go to hell for all i care.

it has ran in the past so so for the few windows only games that i have played with it in the past, but i refuse to change distros just for 1 bloody bit of stupid software that refuses to see that xlibs is installed yet constantly states it is not.

so screw TG until they pull their collective head out of their butts. go with Crossover Office, or Wine.
 
Old 01-22-2007, 10:23 PM   #14
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I agree with you oskar. I would like to see more native games. That might happen now that Microsoft is introducing their tax to develop games for Vista. I am having a difficult time getting Wine installed and I'm not sure if I want to bother with Cedega.
 
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