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Old 05-31-2002, 03:44 PM   #16
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Chooco, or whatever you wanna be called as u like to call people....anyways two seconds of typing in google gave me a huge list of mirrors for the RedHat distribution. http://www.redhat.com/download/mirror.html best bet .edu sites. I dun see how this shall hurt them.... who cares if you cant use their name as long as people can tell what it is at tuxcd's they still yield enough info *7.3* version and a list of the software to let the buyer know what they are looking at...oh well I am sticking with 7.2 i reinstalled it last night now i am without automake and autoconf i reinstalled those now i need aclocal
 
Old 05-31-2002, 05:36 PM   #17
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klenex guy, most people don't see redhat as the big guy. nobody says "i'm installing redhat" they say "i'm installing Linux"
well i can understand i guess.

on a side note, have any of you guys actually been able to DOWNLOAD 7.3???? i checked there yesterday and there is only 1 download location and it's slow as crap at about 3kb/s
That's weird, because I found a mirror here

I am sure you would find many others if you could be bothered to search Google for redhat.com mirrors...
 
Old 06-01-2002, 04:08 AM   #18
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I wasn't able to find mirrors html with clicking on RedHat site, but went to google and got the link there (it was at redhat domain)
 
Old 06-01-2002, 04:18 AM   #19
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Yeah, it seems RH wouldn't want you to use other people's mirrors to d/l their iso. But others do exist.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 09:08 AM   #20
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on a side note, have any of you guys actually been able to DOWNLOAD 7.3???? i checked there yesterday and there is only 1 download location and it's slow as crap at about 3kb/s
One of my friends had, from ftp.sunet.se . But it took him three times to get cd 2 (bad checksums).
 
Old 06-01-2002, 10:04 AM   #21
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Actually I think RH and everybody else should change the way this open source deal is handled. Charge for the downloads and be done with it!! I think they could do that.
I don't want to start a flamewar but I get slightly tired of people complaining about downloads.
That stuff is for free - get it?? Free!
Nobody will set up servers and pay for the bandwidth so everybody who has a internetconnection can download a distro at the same time.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 11:58 AM   #22
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as soon as they set up charging, it will become illegal to download and share it with others. Most of the mirrors are on non profit servers anyway, so why charging than?
 
Old 06-01-2002, 12:16 PM   #23
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No it won't - as far as I understand the licensing you can charge for the cost of distributing the distrc. Servers and big pipes cost money.
Most of that non-profit mirrors are universities - so the taxpayer pays for it. Nothing is for free - somebody always gets a bill.
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:23 PM   #24
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u r right. but you won't pay any less tax if redhat won't be mirrord by universities
 
Old 06-01-2002, 01:34 PM   #25
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I don't pay taxes - if you don't make anything you don't have to. To make up for that I bought Suse 7.3 - anybody needs it??
Got my postcount up to 200 now - have to go party
 
Old 06-01-2002, 02:06 PM   #26
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I still think it should be free. I'm pretty sure that RedHat is making good money regardless of free downloads
 
Old 06-01-2002, 05:39 PM   #27
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as soon as they set up charging, it will become illegal to download and share it with others. Most of the mirrors are on non profit servers anyway, so why charging than?
It cannot become illegal to download and share. Because of GPL. All GPLed programs can be freely copied (one can sell it, but the person that bought can copy it and give it to other people). Only this not gpled part of a distro can be a problem.
 
Old 06-02-2002, 02:18 PM   #28
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either way I'm up for keep it free. If linux wants to win masses it should be pushed to market for free, and not like Sun StarOffice. They got one version for free for people to start getting excited, and the very next version is payable. You need to build your trust and reputation with customers, not just throw a hook.
 
Old 06-02-2002, 03:21 PM   #29
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I would love to see distros charging for downloads. Hey - all you people got boxes and internetconnections you pay for.
What is wrong with paying for the OS?
If they would charge - doesn't need to be 200.- US$ per pop - development would progress much faster.
I don"t work for free. Why all the developers do what they are doing is beyound me. It is a nice thing they put out all that great software and put the effort into it but I wouldn't.
And I am sure 90 percent of the guys right here on this forum wouldn't either - too concerned about free downloads.
Just being honest - sorry
 
Old 06-02-2002, 11:04 PM   #30
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Err...Cheap Linux.net still has Red Hat CDs. They just have a disclaimer. Simple as that. I don't find this bad; its just enforcing a name.

United Linux, well, is not a good thing for Linux. They are following SuSE's business model, which I believe is stupid. These companies are alienating the people who DEVELOPED their products by charging for the CDs and not offering them free.
 
  


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