Slackware/Gentoo/Debian - they all sound nice...but what would YOU recommend?

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 12:50 PM

*2 hours later*
Currently it's 1050AM here. GMT-8 is the timezone.

What happen?

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 12:52 PM

Slack does have a tool for networking, go to a console and as root type:
netconfig

This will run you through a sort of wizard.

Glad you got it up and working

Cool

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 12:55 PM

To get your USB mouse working, you can try multiple things...

Basically you are going to have to modprobe some usb support for the mouse, and that will be determined from the output of lspci -vv hopefully. Then you will have to edit your XF86Config file as shown above, and from there it should work.

Cool

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 12:58 PM

A fellow board member, jetblackz, has setup a page to help people configure slackware a bit easier, there's alot of info here:
http://jetblackz.freeservers.com/Con...ackware81.html

Cool

Faeroon · 01-13-2003, 01:13 PM

Ok, lets get going

MC - what happend? Got like 10 telephon calls from a whole bunch of people, all wanting different stuff... those phone calls ONLY come if you have basically NO time but what the... no it's running and I'm going to:

1.) configure my mouse
2.) set up inet con
3.) set the startup to id:4
4.) set up soundcard

Does anyone have experience with fluxbox? I like the old blackbox style (got a windows skin that looked like a blackbox) and would like to try that

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 01:25 PM

We all do. I run flux, and am currently on it

Flux is straight forward in the install, basically get the tarball and:
tar xvzf tarball.tar.gz
cd tarball
./configure
make
make install

And then open up your .xinitrc in your home directory (if it exists, if not, make one) and put this line at the bottom:
exec fluxbox

Then:
startx

Other option, get a slackware pack. .tgz and:
installpkg slackpack.tgz

Replacing tarball and slackpack with the actual packages of course

Here's a link to the slackpack:
http://www.demerol.org/files/pkgs/fluxbox-0.1.14-2.tgz

Cool

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 01:26 PM

Also, don't forget to post up your output from lspci -vv We'll need that for both your soundcard, and for usbmouse.

As far as your internet goes, what ethernet card do you have?

Cool

Faeroon · 01-13-2003, 01:45 PM

Whoops - forgot to push the logfile of lspci to my windows partition :-/
btw: lspci -vv /usr/lspci-log <== did not work?
I tried it with lspci -vv | less and somehow I could save a logfile?!? I hope to find it , going back to linux in 2mins and get the file.

Update on the other stuff:

I did pico /etc/inittab , after that I did
pico /etc/rc.d/rc.modules , changed the id stuff
and after that I saw that many modules (for example
the usb ohci / hid stuff , and other things that I activated)

Unfortunately I'm still not able to boot into Linux with
LILO directly - I'm just getting a black screen and nothing's happening

So I have to use the bootdisc to get down to the shell,
but can someone tell me if all the changes I made to inittab
or rc.modules are loaded while booting with the disc?

OK, I'll be back with the log in 5mins

For my ethernetcard: I'm using a cheap network card with the Realtek 8139 Chip (8139too.s worked fine on RH and under SW the network card was found without problems)
I've tested netconfig , configured my card, but how do I set up
the internet connection with pppoe?

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 01:49 PM

Its:
lspci -vv > file

Notice the greater than sign.

Cool

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 01:51 PM

To see if your modules are getting loaded, use:
lsmod

They should be though, unless your kernel doesn't have support for them.

What'd you change in inittab, shouldn't be much there for you to change other than the runlevel.

Cool

Faeroon · 01-13-2003, 01:59 PM

Yep, my text got mixed up *G*
In inittab I've changed the runlevel and
in rc. modules I've uncommented some of the modules
f.ex. /sbin/ohci or something like that, for USB support,
thought that it might help (seemed that it didn't *G*)

But first - here's the complete log:

Code:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]: Unknown device 0648 (rev 02)
	Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8086
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort+ >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32
	Region 0: Memory at e0000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=128M]
	Capabilities: [c0] AGP version 2.0
		Status: RQ=31 SBA+ 64bit- FW+ Rate=x1,x2,x4
		Command: RQ=0 SBA- AGP- 64bit- FW- Rate=<none>

00:01.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5591/5592 AGP (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 0
	Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0
	Memory behind bridge: df000000-dfffffff
	Prefetchable memory behind bridge: ef700000-febfffff
	BridgeCtl: Parity- SERR- NoISA- VGA+ MAbort- >Reset- FastB2B-

00:02.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]: Unknown device 0963 (rev 04)
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle+ MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 0

00:02.5 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (prog-if 8a [Master SecP PriP])
	Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8087
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 128
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: I/O ports at <ignored>
	Region 1: I/O ports at <ignored>
	Region 2: I/O ports at <ignored>
	Region 3: I/O ports at <ignored>
	Region 4: I/O ports at b400 [size=16]

00:03.0 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 7001 (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8087
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 9
	Region 0: Memory at de000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

00:03.1 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 7001 (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8087
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
	Interrupt: pin B routed to IRQ 9
	Region 0: Memory at dd800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

00:03.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 7001 (rev 0f) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
	Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8087
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap- 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
	Interrupt: pin C routed to IRQ 9
	Region 0: Memory at dd000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

00:03.3 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS]: Unknown device 7002 (prog-if 20 [EHCI])
	Subsystem: Asustek Computer, Inc.: Unknown device 8087
	Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32 (20000ns max), cache line size 08
	Interrupt: pin D routed to IRQ 9
	Region 0: Memory at dc800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0+,D1-,D2-,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 08)
	Subsystem: Creative Labs CT4832 SBLive! Value
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32 (500ns min, 5000ns max)
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 5
	Region 0: I/O ports at 9400 [size=32]
	Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:09.1 Input device controller: Creative Labs SB Live! MIDI/Game Port (rev 08)
	Subsystem: Creative Labs Gameport Joystick
	Control: I/O+ Mem- BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32
	Region 0: I/O ports at 9000 [size=8]
	Capabilities: [dc] Power Management version 1
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C (rev 10)
	Subsystem: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RT8139
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz- UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 32 (8000ns min, 16000ns max)
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: I/O ports at 8800 [size=256]
	Region 1: Memory at db800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]
	Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1+ D2+ AuxCurrent=375mA PME(D0-,D1+,D2+,D3hot+,D3cold+)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV25 [GeForce4 Ti4200] (rev a3) (prog-if 00 [VGA])
	Subsystem: Micro-star International Co Ltd: Unknown device 8863
	Control: I/O+ Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr- Stepping- SERR- FastB2B-
	Status: Cap+ 66Mhz+ UDF- FastB2B+ ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort- <TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR-
	Latency: 64 (1250ns min, 250ns max)
	Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 11
	Region 0: Memory at df000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16M]
	Region 1: Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]
	Region 2: Memory at ef800000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=512K]
	Expansion ROM at ef7e0000 [disabled] [size=128K]
	Capabilities: [60] Power Management version 2
		Flags: PMEClk- DSI- D1- D2- AuxCurrent=0mA PME(D0-,D1-,D2-,D3hot-,D3cold-)
		Status: D0 PME-Enable- DSel=0 DScale=0 PME-
	Capabilities: [44] AGP version 2.0
		Status: RQ=31 SBA+ 64bit- FW+ Rate=x1,x2,x4
		Command: RQ=0 SBA- AGP- 64bit- FW- Rate=<none>

Any idea why I can't boot right into slackware and have to use the bootdisc?

I've tried lsmod ohci and ehci (because something like that was in the lspci log) but it just said "can't locate module"

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 02:09 PM

So you have usb 2.0? It's probably going to be ohci for now, I doubt ehci is built into a kernel (ehci is usb 2.0).

I wouldn't go in and uncomment things in rc.modules just yet, you want to successfully modprobe them first, make sure they work, and then to make it stick on each reboot, go into rc.modules and uncomment them.

As for why you cannot boot directly into slack, I have no idea. Is your drive setup funny? Did you install LILO to the MBR, if at all? Check out /etc/lilo.conf and post it here.

If it looks correct, try running:
/sbin/lilo -v
to get it installed again, hopefully if there are errors, you will at least see why it's not working (post them as well).

You might need to rebuild a kernel at this point, it might save you the headache of constant reinstalls, and you'll know what's in it that way. What board is that btw, I see asus up there, but not sure which board.

Also, which CPU?

Cool

Faeroon · 01-13-2003, 02:24 PM

My board is the ASUS P4S8X and I'm running a 2.4Ghz P4.

i've installed LILO to the MBR... hope this isn't bad..
Gonna check out the conf and come back with it.

After that I hope you find time to explain me how to compile kernel with the usb support that I need (or any other usefull things you might think of

)

MasterC · 01-13-2003, 02:39 PM

Compiling a kernel is not nearly what some make it out to be, at least on slack it isn't. I did my first couple by trial and error. You build one, try it out, if it doesn't work, you go back to the old one, and try another.

I can tell you to include filesystem support directly into the kernel (assuming you decided to go with ext3, you'll want ext2 in there as well).

Also, you will probably want to go module on your soundcard (emu10k1), and the soundcore as well.

First things first though, go get the newest kernel from www.kernel.org Here's a direct link to 2.4.20:
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kern...-2.4.20.tar.gz

Grab it, I put mine in /usr/src and then untar it:
tar xvzf /usr/src/linux-2.4.20.tar.gz
Then cd into the directory:
cd linux-2.4.20
and if you are in X we will use make xconfig:
make xconfig
Now this will bring up the kernel builder. You will want to spend some time here, read each help file that seems to pertain to you.

Tell us everything you can about the rest of your hardware, such as CD burners, any RAID controllers, usb devices, firewire, and so on.

The main reason you will want to read all the help files is to see which one pertains to your hardware to enable it or not. There are loads of kernel threads around here describing how to build one, but the main part of it is including things for your hardware. Some might say to module EVERYTHING, I tend to disagree with that, I like things that are always going to be on my system to be built into the kernel. Like CD burner support.

I think you might want to get network up before doing this though, it will get rather frustrating going back and forth to ask questions about a kernel config. I wish I knew something about PPoE or whatever it's called, but I use DHCP to connect to my ISP. However, I've asked a guru to take a look at this and they might have some suggestions, if not I will look around some tutorials and how to's to see if I can get you rolling on it.

Cool

Faeroon · 01-13-2003, 02:53 PM

Ok, just a quick run through my main hardware:

CPU : 2.4Ghz P4
MB: ASUS P4S8X
Ram: 1Gb Samsung
HD: Maxtor xxxx and one IMB - together 100GB, both IDE (don't no the types exactly, sorry)
CD-Writer: LITE-ON LTR-24103S
DVD: Toshiba SD-M1402
Network card: no-name Realtek 8139
Soundcard: Soundblaster Live! 1024

That's it so far.

DHCP? Never heard of it... under RH I had a gui where
I put in my username (blablabla@t-online.de) and my password
and after that it worked

Connected with the eth0

ok...gonna try to compile this beast....but let us first set up my inet connection, ok?