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Old 06-01-2008, 12:35 PM   #1
firewiz87
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Just installed fedora 9 and have a lot of questions!!!


Well i have just installed fedora 9, and as usual had a few problems and a lot of questions!!'

My first problem occurred when the installer crashed due to an error in labeling windows partitions, when i tried to specify mount points to windows partitions. On the next try i didnt specify mount points to the windows partitions, and all was well.

Well the windows partitions were, to my pleasant surprise, "magically" mounted!! Yet no entries were found in fstab related to it....surprising!!
To change the mount points all i have to do is create an entry for the partition in fstab i suppose??

However i d like to change the default name or label given to the windows partitions, how do i do that??

I noticed that fstab used a different method (something to do with labels?)to address the partitions so if i have to change the labels, do i have to change the fstab entries too??

The next shock came when i found that fedora created no menu entries (grub) to the already installed OpenSUSE and XEN
However it did have an entry to boot Windows.

Its funny to see that fedora recognized its rival and ignored the other linux installations completely when preparing the grub menu.
Dont tell me there is a civil war going on detween distros

So do i have to create grub entries manually??
Or is there an easier way??

It was simply great to see that my wireless card (DWL G510 h/w ver.C2) was detected correctly right away and was able to configure it using network manager which i was never able to do with OpenSUSE 10.3.

I am curious to know what difference between fedora 9 and OpenSUSE made this possible.

Well the overall apearance of KDE 4 is good, i d like to customize it like vary the width of task bar and so on.... is this possible ?? How do you do it??

And finally, when shutting down or restarting, it is seen that the terminal some how changes to another terminal for example when shutting down or restarting, the terminal is somehow changed from ctrl+alt+f7 to some other terminal

However the normal shut down or restart messages are still displayed in ctrl+alt+f7 terminal....its irritating that this happens....
Is there a way out??

I am not sure where to post this, hopefully this is the right place...

Thanks in advance for your help!!
 
Old 06-01-2008, 03:04 PM   #2
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Your questions would probably be better addressed in the Fedora Forum... but short answers for you..

1. Not sure
2. Not sure
3. Yes, its pretty easy to add grub entries, assuming in your several
efforts to install, you didn't hose your other Linux partitions. There
could be a very good reason for why Grub didn't pick up the other
disributions.
4. Suse probably didn't have whatever driver that device needs in its
default Kernel, apparently Fedora does.
5. It should be pretty customizable, you'll just have to learn the ins
and outs of doing it properly
6. Thats a strange problem, no clue on that one
7. The right place.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/
 
Old 06-01-2008, 05:21 PM   #3
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Well Fedora uses like Ubuntu and some others, uuids to identify the Partitions, the advantage is that those dont change even if the device is connected different (for example from Master to Slace IDE or something) so everything still gets mounted correctly, You can use those but you dont have to, If you want to mount your Windows drive to for example /mnt/Win than you can just create an entry like:
Code:
/dev/sda9 /mnt/Win ntfs-3g umask=0000,user,rw 0 0
and it will work.

Your Windows partitons dont get mounted magically btw, its because of hal, the same way a USB stick would be mounted if you plugg it in. (w/o entry in fstab).

Fedora is not really good picking up other OSs i think, but its easy to just put the entries for those in /boot/grub/menu.lst

Well for the Wireless card, Fedora generally uses pretty new and highly patched Kernels, guess they got a driver which SUSE doesn't have, but you could always patch that driver in the SUSE Kernel, because it would have to be open source if its in fedora.

KDE 4 is still under heavy development, so there are a lot of Options missing but there should be something like KDE Control Center where basic customization can be done.

Well you just realized that with the terminal switch in f9 after I read your post , guess I never watched my PC shutdown ... sorry cant help on that one ...

HF with Fedora, its a great Distro. Personally love it
 
Old 06-02-2008, 03:02 AM   #4
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IndyGunFreak View Post
Your questions would probably be better addressed in the Fedora Forum... but short answers for you..

1. Not sure
2. Not sure
3. Yes, its pretty easy to add grub entries, assuming in your several
efforts to install, you didn't hose your other Linux partitions. There
could be a very good reason for why Grub didn't pick up the other
disributions.
4. Suse probably didn't have whatever driver that device needs in its
default Kernel, apparently Fedora does.
5. It should be pretty customizable, you'll just have to learn the ins
and outs of doing it properly
6. Thats a strange problem, no clue on that one
7. The right place.. http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/fedora-35/
Thank you for the prompt reply!!

The partitions are all intact i just need to create the grub entries i suppose.

Well now i cant repeat post this in the fedora forum.... if somebody could help me move the post....
 
Old 06-02-2008, 03:29 AM   #5
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Originally Posted by ischi View Post
Well Fedora uses like Ubuntu and some others, uuids to identify the Partitions, the advantage is that those dont change even if the device is connected different (for example from Master to Slace IDE or something) so everything still gets mounted correctly, You can use those but you dont have to, If you want to mount your Windows drive to for example /mnt/Win than you can just create an entry like:
Code:
/dev/sda9 /mnt/Win ntfs-3g umask=0000,user,rw 0 0
and it will work.

Your Windows partitons dont get mounted magically btw, its because of hal, the same way a USB stick would be mounted if you plugg it in. (w/o entry in fstab).

Fedora is not really good picking up other OSs i think, but its easy to just put the entries for those in /boot/grub/menu.lst

Well for the Wireless card, Fedora generally uses pretty new and highly patched Kernels, guess they got a driver which SUSE doesn't have, but you could always patch that driver in the SUSE Kernel, because it would have to be open source if its in fedora.

KDE 4 is still under heavy development, so there are a lot of Options missing but there should be something like KDE Control Center where basic customization can be done.

Well you just realized that with the terminal switch in f9 after I read your post , guess I never watched my PC shutdown ... sorry cant help on that one ...

HF with Fedora, its a great Distro. Personally love it
Is there a way to change the labels??
The problem is that Open SUSE has already labeled its root partition as / and after mounting it on fedora shows its name as / (i did nt manage to change it) which is really irritating especially when browsing the file system.... imagine having two roots

Well HAL does do its magic, funny i never noticed it in previous fedoras, especially the auto mounting of hard disk partitions.

And about grub is it menu.lst or grub.conf?? SUSE uses menu.lst, i dont find such a file in fedora

Well about the wireless card... both OpenSUSE and fedora both uses the same driver (rt61pci), however the driver didnt work in SUSE and it does in fedora.... wonderful(yet confusing) maybe fedora uses an updated version of the driver or like u said, it maybe the kernel patches thats doing the trick....

Is there a way to borrow the driver from fedora and use in SUSE??

I ll try the control center.....

Hopefully somebody could help me with the terminal problem...

Yes, fedora is a great distro and my personal favorite too..... but i have to admit i never had so many problems with any previous releases
 
Old 06-02-2008, 09:01 AM   #6
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Well I Personally don't know how to change the lables, I never had to but there has to be a way i guess to overwrite those during the mount.

The menu.lst ist located in /boot/grub/menu.lst, well that where it was in every distro I use so far, I think its also symlinked to /etc/ but not shure.

Well I don't know about this driver, but you could alway "borrow" the whole Kernel, or you have to look which patch does the trick, and apply it to your SUSE Kernel.
 
Old 06-03-2008, 01:14 PM   #7
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It would be great to know how to "borrow" the whole kernel...... do point me to a good tutorial
 
Old 06-08-2008, 08:38 PM   #8
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Sorry kind of missed your last post, to use the Fedora Kernel in SUSE would be just a matter of copying the Kernel From one Drive to the other, nameing it in a usefull way and setting up your Bootloader, you can pretty much follow a tutorial which tells you how to build your own Kernel but instead of building your own you take the Fedora one.
i.e. http://slackwiki.org/Kernel26Compilation

No Guarantee that your Computer still boots correctly so, but it should work. Keep the orignial Kernel and Grub entries to be Save

Edit: Of Course you need the Modules, too
 
  


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