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Old 02-17-2007, 03:11 PM   #16
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Hey yea sorry i put in an i at the begining instead of an L, now it worked however all it does is tell me my computer cards etc.

this is what it said...

0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 GMCH [Graphics Memory Controller Hub] (rev 03)
0000:00:01.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82810E DC-133 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 03)
0000:00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA PCI Bridge (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801AA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801AA IDE (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801AA USB (rev 02)
0000:00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801AA SMBus (rev 02)
0000:01:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12)
0000:01:09.0 Modem: PCTel Inc HSP MicroModem 56 (rev 02)
0000:01:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

i dont know if that helps.. however when i ran the install cd it said that the sound system couldnt pick up the usb connection..which is what i had it on before.
My sound system is A Microsoft digital sound system 80.
 
Old 02-17-2007, 03:29 PM   #17
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Originally Posted by jacook
As rickH says, so your looking for a free alternitive to windows, try these on for size
[snip]
Lindspire
[snip]
Yep - there are lots of linuxes, and quite a few are designed to scratch that "it ain't like windows" itch. Deliberately making linux suck as much as windows seems silly to me but each to his/her/its/their/other own.

Reading through the thread we see that Kubuntu has been pretty much settled on. Changing distro at this point would be counter-productive. Unless you happen to know that the distros listed will provide the functionality requested where kubuntu dosn't?

BTW: Linspire is a commercial distro - surely you mean "Freespire"?

Never mind: I know you meant well.
 
Old 02-17-2007, 03:45 PM   #18
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It's called BBCode
Jeremy calls it "vB Code" in the FAQ but it's "bbcode" in the link to the entry: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi....php?do=bbcode ... go figure.

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There are linux hotmail clients galore. This is not a new problem.

Like?
Ps. Firefox 2 is not on my computer.. so long IE6 or IE7.
Well - I am running Ubuntu Edgy, and I have Firefox 2.0.0.2 installed. Use the wiki link I sent you and upgrade everything. Read through it for stuff you'd like to use.

If you have access to IE anywhere, try the following site:
http://www.positioniseverything.net/explorer.html

Hotmail:
http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_webm...r_email_client
http://www.openfree.org/pet/index.ph...r_Linux_Client
... these are the first two hits when I google "linux hotmail client". You should try it sometime

BTW: it is bad manners to totally remove your first post... people can read through the thread and find out. What you needed to do was keep the original thread starter (gives context to the immediate replies) but add a fer lines pointing out that the thread has morphed significantly. Do this at the top, bold face and italics, and put "edit:" in front of it.

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Old 02-17-2007, 03:53 PM   #19
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now it worked however all it does is tell me my computer cards etc.
That was the point, now you know that this is your sound chipset:
0000:01:05.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1988 Allegro-1 (rev 12)
I'm not familiar with that one, but a Google search might help shed some light on your problem.
 
Old 02-17-2007, 04:14 PM   #20
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Hey yea sorry about the fourm bad manners.. loloh well..


i got firefox 2.0.0.2 installed as well.. its running well.

i got sound on my computer now.. i just stuck it in the reglar port instead of the usb. ill gigure out what to do with my ps2... lol.. maybe ill split it or just plug it in whenever i want it.. the port is right at my feet.. unless i get the usb running...

you guys also seem to know what your talking about. Im running wine on a few things.. ig got MSN messenger to install but i am having problems getting it to run on wine.

I tried this form the terminal...

1.)
Wine msnmsgr.exe
=
wine: could not load L"c:\\windows\\system32\\msnmsgr.exe": Module not found

2.)
Moved msn msnmsgr.exe to system32.. ran wine msnmsgr.exe
=
err:module:import_dll Library MSVCR80.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msnmsgr.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library gdiplus.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msnmsgr.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library MSNCore.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msnmsgr.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library msidcrl40.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msnmsgr.exe") not found
err:module:import_dll Library ContactsUX.dll (which is needed by L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msnmsgr.exe") not found
err:module:LdrInitializeThunk Main exe initialization for L"C:\\windows\\system32\\msnmsgr.exe" failed, status c0000135

3.)
Moved entire msn file to system 32.. got same response as 2.

4.)
Looked for the files it needed...found only msncore and contactsUX

5.)
Moved them back to the origonal folder.. (just hit ctrl z to go back)

6.)
Ran a direct path like shown in the winehq help thing. was given this:

(my command)
>
>
>
>
Every time i hit enter it adds a new > and if i write anything it does the same thing. I noticed that the errors mentioned a library.. do i have to upload those .dll's to the wine lib or is it something else. I'll try and find the missing .dll's but what do i do with them? or how can i get this to work?

EDIT:
I got the missing dlls sitting on my desktop.. now what?

Last edited by redsunrise; 02-17-2007 at 04:28 PM.
 
Old 02-17-2007, 05:15 PM   #21
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One other question i had, what is a good Anti-spyware/ firewall program for kubuntu?

I want to keep spyware, adware, etc off my computer as well as have a firewall. I am not sure but is kubuntu exposed to virueses? What about WINE?
 
Old 02-17-2007, 05:49 PM   #22
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I'm glad you got the sound working, I assumed you had the cheap USB-powered speakers that come with some eMachines computers.
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ill gigure out what to do with my ps2...
Refresh my memory: what do you mean by ps2?
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One other question i had, what is a good Anti-spyware/ firewall program for kubuntu?
Look at Firestarter for a firewall if you feel like you need one, but don't be alarmed if it acts overzealous at first and blocks too many things. There is no spyware for Linux. There are little to no Linux viruses, so unless you're worried about accidentally passing Windows viruses to Windows computers you don't need an antivirus program. If you do need an antivirus, look at clamav.

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I got the missing dlls sitting on my desktop.. now what?
Move them to a place where they're out of your way, then run 'winecfg', go to the 'libraries' tab, and enter the libraries you need to override. I don't actually know how to set the overrides to point to your .dll files, though. Sorry.

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Old 02-17-2007, 08:14 PM   #23
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ok thanks...

by ps2 i mean playstation 2... its also running off my speakers.... its a wierd setup but im getting it worked out.

ko thanks for the help with the dlls... ill try some stuff...
 
Old 02-18-2007, 12:41 AM   #24
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ps2 = play station 2?

USB works out of the box for any USB2.0 compatible devices.

You don't really want to run MSN Messenger - in windows it is a serious security hole anyway. The wine errors are telling you that you need the dll files. The appropriate information is at winehq in their faq.

Spyware/adware etc is not the concern in linux that it is under windows.

Ubuntu has a text-based firewall called "iptables". There are threads around the security forums about how to best use this... or google "iptables firewall script" and read around.

You only need a virus scanner for when you want to share files with windows people. The standard one is called clamav and it is available in the repositories via apt-get or synaptic (system > adminitration > synaptic). Do learn how to use this utility.

Linux viruses do exist, they tend to be the sort of thing academics think of to demonstrate some obscure points in computer science theory. Some have been made which can migrate between windows and linux - again, by theorists wanting to prove that it can be done.

Other malware:
It is unbelievably hard to get anything installed on your linux box without you knowing about it. You have to download it, manually make it executable, and give it the right permissions.

This is the wiki comparison - pay attention to the security section.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...dows_and_Linux

An illustration (in the form of a man page for "evilmalware") of why malware is so uncommon in gnu/linux.
http://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/evilmalware.html

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Old 02-18-2007, 12:53 AM   #25
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Look at Firestarter for a firewall if you feel like you need one, but don't be alarmed if it acts overzealous at first and blocks too many things. There is no spyware for Linux. There are little to no Linux viruses, so unless you're worried about accidentally passing Windows viruses to Windows computers you don't need an antivirus program. If you do need an antivirus, look at clamav.
If you are running wine, you probably should use a virus scanner. Wine is pretty zealous about reproducing the windows api, flaws and all and it is a way that windows viruses can gain access to a linux system - sometimes even promote themselves.

Damage is still limited to the user access in practically all cases. And even under wine, the chances are good that anything malicious will be noticed quite quickly.

Linux spyware does exist - however, it is the sort of thing admins tend to install to check on what users are doing on the network. It is unlikely anyone could install any without their own knowledge.

A few times recently I had to go back to using windows (xp) on the internet and found that the difference was horrifying. I'd got so used to surfing ad free, popup free, and attack free that it felt like walking blithly into a hurricane. The regular windows users around me seemed to think it was normal.
 
Old 02-18-2007, 11:35 AM   #26
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Thanks,

Yeah my computer was running kinda wierd yesterday so i got concerned over adwear more than anything. I did some hardware updates... aka i just changed my mouse lol . It was one of the old wireless kinds thay have the ball... it didnt roll to well and wouldnt go in some directions, wouldt work good ifyou were going slow, etc. When my parents got their new VIAO XP (I 17, and in grade 12,hence the parents ) it came with a mouse so i stole their old one. Its a wireless again but one with the red light.. not sure if its a laser or what but you know what they are.. ironically its also made by mircosoft.. haha. Anyway that helped and made my computer run a little smoother.

In defence of Windows.. if you have a good anti-virus such as Norton, i could serf the web pop up free and i rarely got adware or spyware.. generally stuff that came with things i installed and i got no virus's... However my system did horribly crash and burn once resulting in me having to reinstall windows... but anyway .

Thanks for the help too.

Two of my remaining questions for now, then i should be all good.

- Is there a linux version of msn that works like it and still allows me to use my hotmail account? I know there is GAIM, but dont i need yahoo for that?

- What is a good program to run my ipod from...

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Old 02-18-2007, 11:46 AM   #27
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- Is there a linux version of msn that works like it and still allows me to use my hotmail account? I know there is GAIM, but dont i need yahoo for that?
For Kubuntu, I recommend Kopete which can handle AIM, Yahoo! Messenger, MSN Messenger, Gadu-Gadu, and more. As far as Hotmail goes, if you have a free Hotmail account (without pop access) you can still access it from the web interface, or use a special extension for Mozilla Thunderbird. If you have a paid-for account, you can simply set up a mail client such as Thunderbird with instructions from the Hotmail site. That said, now might be a good time to switch to a real webmail provider like Google's GMail.

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- What is a good program to run my ipod from...
Amarok is not only a good media player, but can also manage your iPod quite well (Music only, though.)
 
Old 02-18-2007, 10:18 PM   #28
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ok so my monitor blew up in a smokey plastic bomb... my room still smells of burining plastic.. anyway at least i was home. The monitor i got now is only running 640 by 480 or something so eveything is gigantor... lol. maybe ill get a nice new flatscreen.... (dent in my wallet)

anyway ive been fiddleing around with kubuntu for a week now and ive come to this conclusion.

all i really wanted was a system that was better than or equil to windows me. it seems that ive done more sacrificing with kubuntu than anything.

Working thing:

Firefox: i said bye bye to IE and ran firefox. its running good excepting for it crashes from time to time....it askes me to install plugins.. the tells me install failed.

Subs:
Koepete - worse than msn.. lol frankly its a step back in most things compared to even msn 6.0

Wine: i installed it. it works great for imulating insatalls... not so great with actually running the things.

I have figured out how to add backgrounds and all that, not that that was a real big deal.

my speakers didnt work throught the usb plug (which came with it). i tried it on my parent vaio xp.... it worked. It also worked on my computer before.. so that elimanate sound card issues.

flash player, quick time, etc dont seem to want to install (quicktime kinda installs (it doesnt really finish.. files are there but the install says was unable to configure) but wine donesnt emulate it).

i must say i do like adept package manager.. helps with managing lol, go figure

Java is working.... and thats a good thing. i think firefox had a default java that works because im using default settings for java now.. not sunjava that i installed earlier.

apparantly scrips cause konquerer to freeze.. a lot.


Overall: i do like the setup and system settings of kubuntu; however i dont like the amount of substituting i have to do... also being me.. playing games, being sunk into microsoft with so many microsoft things i use, etc kubuntu isnt helping me out with those that much.

to tell you the truth i just got annoyed with ME and wanted an equil only better sub until i save enough to buy a new discounted xp or new vista.. i know microsoft has its issues but there is a reason it is as big as it is.... because so many people buy into them and you have a wide variety of options to use. u get a good antivirus like norton.. internet seems the same to me on here than it did on my ME... no pop-ups.

i may keep kubuntu anyway because the my current alternative is returning to ME... which is pretty a dead end. I really only tried kubuntu and mandriva 1.

Is there a Linux OS that is as close to windows as possible? or can you think of a better emulator for windows programs other than wine. i thought it was supposed to be a compatability layer.. not an install and then have files that you cant use layer.


Heres the two things im asking for then:

More Windows Capatable:

Linux OS
or
Emulator

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Old 02-18-2007, 10:32 PM   #29
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As has been suggested to you at least a couple times, you'll be happiest with one of the "for pay" distros; Linspire or Xandros. They specialize in making the conversion from Windows as painless as possible, and include emulators incorporated into the most popular Windows apps, games as well as productivity apps, and codecs for all the non-free music and video.
 
Old 02-18-2007, 10:34 PM   #30
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oh.. its been suggested a couple of times... oops........ hahahahaha


anyway thanks ill check those out. only two to search through..

EDIT:

I'm not sure if im right or not.. but is there a free version of linspire... called something else -spire...?

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