Unsupported window manager

AllanP · 01-12-2022, 12:02 PM

I have just installed Mint 20.3 Mate on my PC and Laptop. The window manager works on the PC, but not supported on the laptop. It's a fresh install so no going back with Timeshift. Maybe I can re-install the Mate window manger.

business_kid · 01-12-2022, 12:08 PM

You posted. Was that a question? How did you decide your window manager wasn't supported?

Post on the forums here when you want help and provide information.

AllanP · 01-12-2022, 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by business_kid

You posted. Was that a question? How did you decide your window manager wasn't supported?

Post on the forums here when you want help and provide information.

I went into Control Center Look and feel and clicked on Windows which doesn't open. has a message window manager unsupported.

rokytnji · 01-12-2022, 12:40 PM

Might wanna change your title. I came here looking for a Window Manager like Fluxbox, icewm, etc......

Sounds to me with your generalities stated that your laptop is maybe under-powered for mint mate.
Can't say for sure.

Quote:

The MATE Desktop Environment is the continuation of GNOME 2.

Maybe the xfce edition of mint linux might suit your laptop better?

AllanP · 01-12-2022, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokytnji

Might wanna change your title. I came here looking for a Window Manager like Fluxbox, icewm, etc......

Sounds to me with your generalities stated that your laptop is maybe under-powered for mint mate.
Can't say for sure.

Maybe the xfce edition of mint linux might suit your laptop better?

Laptop is three years old with 16GB RAM and still fairly quick and responsive. It was running Mint 20.2 with no problems. Mint's software manager gives me the option of removing Mate desktop, but then what do I have? I'm thinking install another desktop then re-install Mate desktop as I think something not quite right with the current one installed.

rokytnji · 01-12-2022, 01:23 PM

Well. Without a

Code:

inxi -zv8

or even a description of what graphics card, firmware or driver used to drive graphics.
Installing another Desktop Environment may give you the same problems as Mint Mate.

Example of the command above on my box

Code:

harry@mx:~
$ inxi -zv8
System:
  Kernel: 5.10.0-10-amd64 x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 10.2.1
    parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.10.0-10-amd64
    root=UUID=8d18d6c3-7355-42de-9762-0a664eca307b ro quiet splash
  Desktop: Fluxbox 1.3.7 info: tint2 vt: 7 dm: LightDM 1.26.0
    Distro: MX-21_fluxbox_x64 Wildflower Oct 20  2021
    base: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Machine:
  Type: Desktop System: Dell product: OptiPlex 755 v: N/A
    serial: <superuser required> Chassis: type: 6 serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: Dell model: 0GM819 serial: <superuser required> BIOS: Dell v: A11
    date: 08/04/2008
Battery:
  Message: No system battery data found. Is one present?
Memory:
  RAM: total: 3.71 GiB used: 1.85 GiB (49.9%)
  RAM Report:
    permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
PCI Slots:
  Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
  Info: model: Intel Core2 Duo E6550 bits: 64 type: MCP arch: Core Merom
    family: 6 model-id: 0xF (15) stepping: 0xB (11) microcode: 0xBA
  Topology: cpus: 1x cores: 2 smt: <unsupported> cache: L1: 128 KiB
    desc: d-2x32 KiB; i-2x32 KiB L2: 4 MiB desc: 1x4 MiB
  Speed (MHz): avg: 1995 min/max: 2000/2333 scaling: driver: acpi-cpufreq
    governor: ondemand cores: 1: 1995 2: 1995 bogomips: 9310
  Flags: acpi aperfmperf apic arch_perfmon bts clflush cmov constant_tsc
    cpuid cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts est fpu fxsr ht lahf_lm lm mca
    mce mmx monitor msr mtrr nopl nx pae pat pbe pdcm pebs pge pni pse pse36
    pti rep_good sep smx sse sse2 ssse3 syscall tm tm2 tsc vme xtpr
  Vulnerabilities:
  Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: VMX unsupported
  Type: l1tf mitigation: PTE Inversion
  Type: mds
    status: Vulnerable: Clear CPU buffers attempted, no microcode; SMT disabled
  Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
  Type: spec_store_bypass status: Vulnerable
  Type: spectre_v1
    mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
  Type: spectre_v2
    mitigation: Full generic retpoline, STIBP: disabled, RSB filling
  Type: srbds status: Not affected
  Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nouveau
    v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0de1 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc Wireless Optical Mouse type: USB
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid bus-ID: 6-1:2 chip-ID: 1267:c002 class-ID: 0301
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0")
    s-diag: 414mm (16.3")
  Monitor-1: VGA-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 50
    size: 697x392mm (27.4x15.4") diag: 800mm (31.5")
  OpenGL: renderer: NVC1 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes
Audio:
  Device-1: Intel 82801I HD Audio vendor: Dell Optiplex 755
    driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus-ID: 00:1b.0 chip-ID: 8086:293e
    class-ID: 0403
  Device-2: NVIDIA GF108 High Definition Audio
    vendor: eVga.com. GeForce GT 430 driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel
    bus-ID: 01:00.1 chip-ID: 10de:0bea class-ID: 0403
  Sound Server-1: ALSA v: k5.10.0-10-amd64 running: yes
  Sound Server-2: PulseAudio v: 14.2 running: yes
Network:
  Device-1: Intel 82566DM-2 Gigabit Network vendor: Dell OptiPlex 755
    driver: e1000e v: kernel port: ecc0 bus-ID: 00:19.0 chip-ID: 8086:10bd
    class-ID: 0200
  IF: eth0 state: up speed: 1000 Mbps duplex: full mac: <filter>
  IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
    broadcast: <filter>
  IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
  WAN IP: <filter>
Bluetooth:
  Message: No bluetooth data found.
Logical:
  Message: No logical block device data found.
RAID:
  Message: No RAID data found.
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 1.88 TiB used: 42.23 GiB (2.2%)
  SMART Message: Unable to run smartctl. Root privileges required.
  ID-1: /dev/sda maj-min: 8:0 vendor: Western Digital
    model: WD2003FYPS-27W9B0 size: 1.82 TiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B speed: 3.0 Gb/s type: HDD rpm: 5400 serial: <filter>
    rev: 5G09 scheme: MBR
  ID-2: /dev/sdb maj-min: 8:16 type: USB vendor: SanDisk
    model: Cruzer Glide size: 59.62 GiB block-size: physical: 512 B
    logical: 512 B type: N/A serial: <filter> rev: 1.27 scheme: MBR
  SMART Message: Unknown USB bridge. Flash drive/Unsupported enclosure?
  Optical-1: /dev/sr0 vendor: HL-DT-ST model: DVDRAM GH41N rev: MN01
    dev-links: cdrom,cdrw,dvd,dvdrw
  Features: speed: 40 multisession: yes audio: yes dvd: yes
    rw: cd-r,cd-rw,dvd-r,dvd-ram state: running
Partition:
  ID-1: / raw-size: 85.89 GiB size: 84.42 GiB (98.29%)
    used: 20.55 GiB (24.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda1 maj-min: 8:1
    label: rootMX21 uuid: 8d18d6c3-7355-42de-9762-0a664eca307b
  ID-2: /media/harry/7E36-3028 raw-size: 59.62 GiB size: 59.6 GiB (99.98%)
    used: 21.67 GiB (36.4%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sdb1 maj-min: 8:17 label: N/A
    uuid: 7E36-3028
Swap:
  Alert: No swap data was found.
Unmounted:
  ID-1: /dev/sda2 maj-min: 8:2 size: 3.95 GiB fs: swap label: N/A
    uuid: 96461763-a4aa-4535-9d37-5de8130f84f8
  ID-2: /dev/sda4 maj-min: 8:4 size: 1 KiB fs: <superuser required>
    label: N/A uuid: N/A
  ID-3: /dev/sda5 maj-min: 8:5 size: 244.14 GiB fs: ext4 label: /data
    uuid: cf478cb9-3e25-4236-9118-801f1ae76212
  ID-4: /dev/sda6 maj-min: 8:6 size: 244.14 GiB fs: ext4 label: /data2
    uuid: 16c3c4b1-7067-4f94-8dd2-423c23ea427d
  ID-5: /dev/sda7 maj-min: 8:7 size: 1.25 TiB fs: ext4 label: /misc
    uuid: a14d3c77-5729-40ee-900a-4c792b99a9da
USB:
  Hub-1: 1-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 12 Mb/s
    chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-2: 2-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-3: 2-3:2
    info: Huasheng 4-port hub [Maxxter ACT-HUB2-4P HS8836 iSoul ultra-slim]
    ports: 4 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 214b:7000
    class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 2-3.1:8 info: SanDisk Cruzer Glide type: Mass Storage
    driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s power: 200mA
    chip-ID: 0781:5575 class-ID: 0806 serial: <filter>
  Device-2: 2-3.4:4 info: GEMBIRD MicroSD Card Reader/Writer
    type: Mass Storage driver: usb-storage interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s power: 150mA chip-ID: 1908:0226 class-ID: 0806
  Hub-4: 3-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-5: 4-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 6 rev: 2.0
    speed: 480 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0002 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-6: 5-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
  Hub-7: 6-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
  Device-1: 6-1:2 info: Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc Wireless Optical Mouse
    type: Mouse driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 1.0
    speed: 1.5 Mb/s power: 100mA chip-ID: 1267:c002 class-ID: 0301
  Device-2: 6-2:5 info: China Resource Semico Keyboard type: Keyboard,HID
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid interfaces: 2 rev: 1.1 speed: 1.5 Mb/s
    power: 98mA chip-ID: 1a2c:0021 class-ID: 0300
  Hub-8: 7-0:1 info: Full speed or root hub ports: 2 rev: 1.1
    speed: 12 Mb/s chip-ID: 1d6b:0001 class-ID: 0900
Sensors:
  System Temperatures: cpu: 36.0 C mobo: N/A gpu: nouveau temp: 71.0 C
  Fan Speeds (RPM): N/A
Repos:
  Packages: note: see --pkg apt: 1768 lib: 843 flatpak: 0
  No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian-stable-updates.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye-updates main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debian.list
    1: deb http://deb.debian.org/debian bullseye main contrib non-free
    2: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security bullseye-security main contrib non-free
  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mx.list
    1: deb http://mxrepo.com/mx/repo/ bullseye main non-free
Processes:
  CPU top: 5 of 203
  1: cpu: 9.1% command: x-www-browser pid: 187487 mem: 831.3 MiB (21.8%)
  2: cpu: 1.3% command: firefox-bin pid: 187712 mem: 185.8 MiB (4.8%)
  3: cpu: 0.9% command: firefox-bin pid: 187644 mem: 172.4 MiB (4.5%)
  4: cpu: 0.8% command: firefox-bin pid: 223924 mem: 166.3 MiB (4.3%)
  5: cpu: 0.3% command: xorg pid: 2371 mem: 75.6 MiB (1.9%)
  Memory top: 5 of 203
  1: mem: 831.3 MiB (21.8%) command: x-www-browser pid: 187487 cpu: 9.1%
  2: mem: 185.8 MiB (4.8%) command: firefox-bin pid: 187712 cpu: 1.3%
  3: mem: 172.4 MiB (4.5%) command: firefox-bin pid: 187644 cpu: 0.9%
  4: mem: 166.3 MiB (4.3%) command: firefox-bin pid: 223924 cpu: 0.8%
  5: mem: 130.0 MiB (3.4%) command: firefox-bin pid: 187588 cpu: 0.1%
Info:
  Processes: 203 Uptime: 22h 0m wakeups: 1 Init: SysVinit v: 2.96 runlevel: 5
  default: 5 tool: systemctl Compilers: gcc: 10.2.1 alt: 10 Shell: Bash
  v: 5.1.4 running-in: roxterm inxi: 3.3.11
harry@mx:~
$

My display is big screen TV.

Code:

Graphics:
  Device-1: NVIDIA GF108 [GeForce GT 430] vendor: eVga.com. driver: nouveau
    v: kernel bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0de1 class-ID: 0300
  Device-2: Logic3 / SpectraVideo plc Wireless Optical Mouse type: USB
    driver: hid-generic,usbhid bus-ID: 6-1:2 chip-ID: 1267:c002 class-ID: 0301
  Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.11 driver: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa display-ID: :0 screens: 1
  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1366x768 s-dpi: 96 s-size: 361x203mm (14.2x8.0")
    s-diag: 414mm (16.3")
  Monitor-1: VGA-1 res: 1366x768 hz: 60 dpi: 50
    size: 697x392mm (27.4x15.4") diag: 800mm (31.5")
  OpenGL: renderer: NVC1 v: 4.3 Mesa 20.3.5 direct render: Yes

I like reading 1/4 inch tall text.I could make it smaller but then reading glasses are needed. I know Mint Linux includes the above inxi script.

AllanP · 01-12-2022, 01:41 PM

~$ inxi -zv8
System:
Kernel: 5.4.0-94-generic x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc v: 9.3.0
parameters: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-5.4.0-94-generic
root=UUID=d3e0d207-7ac1-41a1-a0c9-dfde73498a4e ro quiet splash
zswap.enabled=1 zswap.compressor=lz4
Desktop: MATE 1.26.0 info: mate-panel wm: Compiz 0.9.14.1
dm: LightDM 1.30.0 Distro: Linux Mint 20.3 Una base: Ubuntu 20.04 focal
Machine:
Type: Laptop System: Dell product: Inspiron 15-5578 v: N/A
serial: <filter> Chassis: type: 9 serial: <filter>
Mobo: Dell model: 0H20TW v: A00 serial: <filter> UEFI: Dell v: 1.32.0
date: 01/14/2021
Battery:
ID-1: BAT0 charge: 28.0 Wh condition: 37.2/42.2 Wh (88%) volts: 11.9/11.4
model: SMP DELL 35RH35C type: Li-ion serial: <filter> status: Discharging
Device-1: hidpp_battery_0 model: Logitech Wireless Mouse M325
serial: <filter> charge: 55% (should be ignored) rechargeable: yes
status: Discharging
Memory:
RAM: total: 15.50 GiB used: 1.47 GiB (9.5%)
RAM Report:
permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
PCI Slots:
Permissions: Unable to run dmidecode. Root privileges required.
CPU:
Topology: Dual Core model: Intel Core i7-7500U bits: 64 type: MT MCP
arch: Amber Lake family: 6 model-id: 8E (142) stepping: 9 microcode: EA
L2 cache: 4096 KiB bogomips: 23199
Speed: 3500 MHz min/max: 400/3500 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 3500 2: 3503
3: 3500 4: 3500
Flags: 3dnowprefetch abm acpi adx aes aperfmperf apic arat arch_perfmon
art avx avx2 bmi1 bmi2 bts clflush clflushopt cmov constant_tsc cpuid
cpuid_fault cx16 cx8 de ds_cpl dtes64 dtherm dts epb ept ept_ad erms est
f16c flexpriority flush_l1d fma fpu fsgsbase fxsr ht hwp hwp_act_window
hwp_epp hwp_notify ibpb ibrs ida intel_pt invpcid invpcid_single lahf_lm
lm mca mce md_clear mmx monitor movbe mpx msr mtrr nonstop_tsc nopl nx pae
pat pbe pcid pclmulqdq pdcm pdpe1gb pebs pge pln pni popcnt pse pse36 pti
pts rdrand rdseed rdtscp rep_good sdbg sep smap smep ss ssbd sse sse2
sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3 stibp syscall tm tm2 tpr_shadow tsc tsc_adjust
tsc_deadline_timer vme vmx vnmi vpid x2apic xgetbv1 xsave xsavec xsaveopt
xsaves xtopology xtpr
Vulnerabilities: Type: itlb_multihit status: KVM: Split huge pages
Type: l1tf
mitigation: PTE Inversion; VMX: conditional cache flushes, SMT vulnerable
Type: mds mitigation: Clear CPU buffers; SMT vulnerable
Type: meltdown mitigation: PTI
Type: spec_store_bypass
mitigation: Speculative Store Bypass disabled via prctl and seccomp
Type: spectre_v1
mitigation: usercopy/swapgs barriers and __user pointer sanitization
Type: spectre_v2 mitigation: Full generic retpoline, IBPB: conditional,
IBRS_FW, STIBP: conditional, RSB filling
Type: srbds mitigation: Microcode
Type: tsx_async_abort status: Not affected
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel
bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5916
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: modesetting
unloaded: fbdev,vesa compositor: compiz v: 0.9.14.1
resolution: 1920x1080~60Hz
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 620 (KBL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 21.0.3
direct render: Yes
Audio:
Device-1: Intel Sunrise Point-LP HD Audio vendor: Dell
driver: snd_hda_intel v: kernel bus ID: 00:1f.3 chip ID: 8086:9d71
Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.4.0-94-generic
Network:
Device-1: Intel Wireless 3165 driver: iwlwifi v: kernel port: f040
bus ID: 01:00.0 chip ID: 8086:3165
IF: wlp1s0 state: up mac: <filter>
IP v4: <filter> type: dynamic noprefixroute scope: global
broadcast: <filter>
IP v6: <filter> type: temporary dynamic scope: global
IP v6: <filter> type: dynamic mngtmpaddr noprefixroute scope: global
IP v6: <filter> type: noprefixroute scope: link
WAN IP: No WAN IP data found. Connected to the web? SSL issues?
Drives:
Local Storage: total: 476.94 GiB used: 32.00 GiB (6.7%)
SMART Message: Required tool smartctl not installed. Check --recommends
ID-1: /dev/sda vendor: Toshiba model: THNSNK512GCS8 SATA 512GB
size: 476.94 GiB block size: physical: 4096 B logical: 512 B
speed: 6.0 Gb/s serial: <filter> rev: 4101 scheme: GPT
Message: No Optical or Floppy data was found.
RAID:
Message: No RAID data was found.
Partition:
ID-1: / raw size: 25.33 GiB size: 24.81 GiB (97.93%)
used: 8.27 GiB (33.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda3 label: N/A
uuid: d3e0d207-7ac1-41a1-a0c9-dfde73498a4e
ID-2: /boot/efi raw size: 1024.0 MiB size: 1022.0 MiB (99.80%)
used: 36.3 MiB (3.6%) fs: vfat dev: /dev/sda1 label: EFI uuid: 849E-3DA5
ID-3: /home raw size: 55.88 GiB size: 54.75 GiB (97.98%)
used: 23.69 GiB (43.3%) fs: ext4 dev: /dev/sda4 label: N/A
uuid: 105ead4d-0017-4992-97b4-75f527346996
ID-4: swap-1 size: 4.88 GiB used: 0 KiB (0.0%) fs: swap
swappiness: 25 (default 60) cache pressure: 50 (default 100)
dev: /dev/sda2 label: N/A uuid: 6d95729f-1223-42f4-9322-339fda4102c9
Unmounted:
ID-1: /dev/sda5 size: 24.67 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
uuid: accfc252-0ef6-494a-a2c1-fad0e70195f8
ID-2: /dev/sda6 size: 216.17 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
uuid: 3876a2cc-f434-4e39-93cb-8f6170539c2e
ID-3: /dev/sda7 size: 56.28 GiB fs: ext4 label: N/A
uuid: 1290bf85-b8df-4c3c-8d83-ce64d984d74b
ID-4: /dev/sda8 size: 90.18 GiB fs: ext4 label: Timeshift
uuid: 7fdf7d9a-d84f-4e0a-b8cc-bc6b9e19f889
USB:
Hub: 1-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 12 rev: 2.0
speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 1d6b:0002
Device-1: 1-3:2 info: Logitech Unifying Receiver type: Keyboard,Mouse,HID
driver: logitech-djreceiver,usbhid interfaces: 3 rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s
chip ID: 046d:c52b
Device-2: 1-5:3 info: Realtek Integrated_Webcam_HD type: Video
driver: uvcvideo interfaces: 2 rev: 2.0 speed: 480 Mb/s chip ID: 0bda:58c6
serial: <filter>
Device-3: 1-6:4 info: Intel type: Bluetooth driver: btusb interfaces: 2
rev: 2.0 speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 8087:0a2a
Device-4: 1-7:5 info: D-WAV Scientific eGalaxTouch EXC3104-1324-05.00.00
type: Mouse driver: hid-multitouch,usbhid interfaces: 1 rev: 2.0
speed: 12 Mb/s chip ID: 0eef:c0aa
Hub: 2-0:1 info: Full speed (or root) Hub ports: 6 rev: 3.0 speed: 5 Gb/s
chip ID: 1d6b:0003
Sensors:
System Temperatures: cpu: 54.0 C mobo: 44.0 C sodimm: 33.0 C
Fan Speeds (RPM): cpu: 0
Repos:
No active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/brave-browser-release.list
1: deb [signed-by=/usr/share/keyrings/brave-browser-archive-keyring.gpg arch=amd64] https://brave-browser-apt-release.s3.brave.com/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/google-chrome.list
1: deb [arch=amd64] https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ stable main
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/official-package-repositories.list
1: deb http://packages.linuxmint.com una main upstream import backport #id:linuxmint_main
2: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal main restricted universe multiverse
3: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-updates main restricted universe multiverse
4: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu focal-backports main restricted universe multiverse
5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ focal-security main restricted universe multiverse
6: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu/ focal partner
Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/opera-stable.list
1: deb https://deb.opera.com/opera-stable/ stable non-free #Opera Browser (final releases)
Processes:
CPU top: 5
1: cpu: 3.6% command: brave pid: 1752 mem: 131.5 MiB (0.8%)
2: cpu: 3.4% command: brave pid: 1715 mem: 332.2 MiB (2.0%)
3: cpu: 2.6% command: mate-terminal pid: 2938 mem: 39.9 MiB (0.2%)
4: cpu: 2.0% command: xorg pid: 899 mem: 119.5 MiB (0.7%)
5: cpu: 1.4% command: brave pid: 2334 mem: 140.5 MiB (0.8%)
Memory top: 5
1: mem: 332.2 MiB (2.0%) command: brave pid: 1715 cpu: 3.4%
2: mem: 276.0 MiB (1.7%) command: thunderbird pid: 1621 cpu: 0.4%
3: mem: 155.9 MiB (0.9%) command: brave pid: 1964 cpu: 0.5%
4: mem: 140.5 MiB (0.8%) command: brave pid: 2334 cpu: 1.4%
5: mem: 131.5 MiB (0.8%) command: brave pid: 1752 cpu: 3.6%
Info:
Processes: 287 Uptime: 27m Init: systemd v: 245 runlevel: 5 Compilers:
gcc: 9.3.0 alt: 9 Shell: bash v: 5.0.17 running in: mate-terminal
inxi: 3.0.38

business_kid · 01-12-2022, 02:22 PM

You obviously didn't read the link I sent you. Let me be clear.

Which window manager worked, and which didn't?
What were the errors?
What have you tried?
What's the spec of your machine?
One wm doesn't work, but one does. What's wrong?
Tell us if there's anything unusual in the logs. DO NOT POST THEM - CHECK THEM YOURSELF.

For your information help is voluntary here - nobody pays anyone. We help you to help yourself, if you're interested?

rokytnji · 01-12-2022, 02:35 PM

I've read online certain systemd distros are having trouble with i915 driver depending on which kernel used. Can't find the thread where I read that though.

Code:

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel

Thing is. i915 is the correct driver for your graphics. Since Mate says unacceptable. Just wondering now if you check summed your iso before but you say it runs OK on the other computer? So not sure where to go from here.

Hmmm

Code:

dmesg | grep i915

Might try a different kernel install maybe? I don't dance with systemd distros. Sorry.

Code:

SysVinit v: 2.96

enigma9o7 · 01-12-2022, 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AllanP

Mint's software manager gives me the option of removing Mate desktop, but then what do I have?

If you remove Mate, you will still have the login manager (lightdm), which may be able to open a terminal in an x session. But for sure you will still have access to TTY. So you could install another desktop environment (or a window manager) there if you wanted using APT.

But there's no reason a new laptop like that can't run mate if that's what you want, just need to understand what your problem is, if there is one...

AllanP · 01-12-2022, 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rokytnji

I've read online certain systemd distros are having trouble with i915 driver depending on which kernel used. Can't find the thread where I read that though.

Code:

Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 620 vendor: Dell driver: i915 v: kernel

Thing is. i915 is the correct driver for your graphics. Since Mate says unacceptable. Just wondering now if you check summed your iso before but you say it runs OK on the other computer? So not sure where to go from here.

Hmmm

Code:

dmesg | grep i915

Might try a different kernel install maybe? I don't dance with systemd distros. Sorry.

What do you have against systemd and what do you use?
Everything is working fine and the only reason I got tangled up in this "unsupported WM" was I to use "Alt click" to move a window. No biggy as "Alt F7" works fine. So maybe I'll accept things the way they are; maybe try another kernel.

AllanP · 01-12-2022, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma9o7

If you remove Mate, you will still have the login manager (lightdm), which may be able to open a terminal in an x session. But for sure you will still have access to TTY. So you could install another desktop environment (or a window manager) there if you wanted using APT.

But there's no reason a new laptop like that can't run mate if that's what you want, just need to understand what your problem is, if there is one...

Like I said Mate is running fine; just this one small glitch. I'm gonna forget about it and carry on. Thanks all.

enigma9o7 · 01-12-2022, 03:43 PM

You may have found a bug.

rokytnji · 01-12-2022, 04:12 PM

Quote:

What do you have against systemd and what do you use?

defaults to /usr/bin. I posted earlier what I use . Ignores /usr/local/bin text files.

Code:

SysVinit v: 2.96

Ever try to edit a systemd call command? Gedit or leafpad or vim or nano can't handle it. systemctl is a can of worms.
Just my druthers. I am sure it is fine for what it does. Just not interested.

AllanP · 01-12-2022, 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enigma9o7

You may have found a bug.

I wonder. I just backed up an OS image in case I screwed up; then removed mate desktop and re-installed it with the same problem "Current WM not supported".