Yes.

"stable", yes, but configuration is still a [removed] nightmare. and it still doesn't have feature parity with windows.

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My idea of a f***ing nightmare is the Windows registry. Configuring a system by using editable text files is much simpler.

As to feature parity, that depends entirely on the user. If there is some feature of a Windows program that you depend on, and the corresponding Linux program doesn't have it, of course you're not going to be pleased. But there are probably loads of people who never use that feature.

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There was a time I might have agreed with you, but not for a few years now. Configuration on my hardware is now almost as simple as "install, run". Default configurations are as good or better than the windows equivalent. I do not run exotic video systems or the latest hardware, so perhaps I avoid some bullets in this.

Linux has FAR more features (because it has so many more CHOICES) compared to Windows. There is no parity, Linux has blown Windows away for a long time. The features are DIFFERENT, but not less. Given, that may be madding if you are looking for the SAME features.

I think that your viewpoint, rather than the actual facts, affect how you see these questions. If you are looking at Linux as a "Windows Replacement" and seeking the same things you find in Windows it is far more difficult to find satisfaction. If you come from a more enlightened background, as it pertains to Operating Systems, there is a "WOW" factor at the number and kind of things you can do using Linux without having to jump through hoops or add proprietary ($$$) software that Windows lost around the time ME came out. (and crashed, though it was not as bad as its reputation would make it seem)

In any other thread, I woould want to know what features you are seeking and what it is you need to configure to see if there are suggestions to be made that would automate your configuration some and provide equivalent features. That would be somewhat off topic here.

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Indeed, many popular things are utter garbage. Indeed, they are likely popular because they are utter garbage.

I've actually got a thread about it on this very forum. not to derail.

why is this even a thing that comes to mind? manual [removed] of the windows registry isn't something that you should expect to do even *once a year*. i can't remember the lst time i had do. but editable text files (when you can even find them - like for example, ubuntu hides the xorg config file in a nonstandard location) is something that on linuxes i expect to deal with every time i want to make a change to the system.

"Still"?
As if that had ever been the goal.
"Feature parity"?
What an elaborate way of saying "I refuse to learn anything new".

You have succesfully pushed my buttons.
You are a troll.

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you can call me a troll all you like if you can help me get my monitors working properly

Ondoho said that because you are here in a Linux forum but espousing the virtues of Windows by saying Linux is hard to configure and doesn't have the features Windows does.

Beyond that, I will not take the troll bait, no matter how enticing it is...

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I'll bite!

>Installing Windows programs:
Run installer.
This program needs net runtime.
Download net runtime
Run net runtime installer.
Click next
Click next
Click next
Wants reboot.
Reboot.
Run installer.
click Next,
scroll down,
click radio button to choose 'I accept my slavedom',
click next
choose installation options, which, in advanced mode, will only let you choose the destination
click next
uncheck sponsor tickboxes
click next
Please wait while windows configures your software
20gb of sideby side assembly is generated
5 gb of msi shadow files are generated
launch program
phones home
a new update is available, do you want to update
download update
update is an installer you need to run
click Next,
scroll down,
click radio button to choose 'I accept my slavedom',
click next
choose installation options, which, in advanced mode, will only let you choose the destination
click next
uncheck sponsor tickboxes
click next
Please wait while windows configures your software
20gb of sideby side assembly is generated
5 gb of msi shadow files are generated
launch program
program.exe has exited with an error.
cannot find ms common controls 1.535.744d.

downloading is impossible without authentication.
download authenticator.
run authenticator.
download common controls.
install common controls.
reboot.
launch program
phones home
a new update is available, do you want to update
download update
update is an installer you need to run
click Next,
scroll down,
click radio button to choose 'I accept my slavedom',
click next
choose installation options, which, in advanced mode, will only let you choose the destination
click next
uncheck sponsor tickboxes
click next
Please wait while windows configures your software
20gb of sideby side assembly is generated
5 gb of msi shadow files are generated
launch program.

program runs but now your mom calls you down for dinner.
maybe tomorrow you will have your fun.

It's tomorrow, time to play a game.

>attempt to play a game in Windows, downloaded from the official MS Piratebay repo
>Windows doesn't know what an iso file is, ask me to burn it
>'Burn it?!'I don't want windows to destroy the data I've spent downloading over one month due to windows QOS, BITS and velocidensity data accumulators that restrict open connections to two, routed over the Microsoft spy-net MSE filter to protect me from malware!
>ask friendly people on the piratebay comments
>they tell me to download alcohol demon pro enterprise
>i do so, finally able to mount the game after agreeing to a ring -1 access policy
>mounting takes 3 hours because windows limits RAM to 1256 bits per UAC kernelspace sector, giving me only 12 megabytes every 5 seconds.
>suddenly splash-screen of game, fans go into overdrive as they need to cool my network cables due to 'always on' DRM saturating my bandwidth to the full allotted 1kbs of the current BITS slice.
>game crashes because Microsoft common controls and cruntime 5-3253.543535-188D are missing.
>go to Microsoft site to download packet.
>needs authentication
>download authentication checker
>BIOS flares up as daz loader spoofs my uefi-ami-safeboot-award masker
>finally downloaded
>install
>please wait while windows configures your software
>30 minutes later, done, needs reboot
>reboot and wait the 5 minutes til the desktop is loaded, thank god I bought that SSD
>remount game
>wait
>start
>installation of common controls in conjunction with my graphic card driver opens a security backdoor I can;t patch since I don't have the license to download kb-49222E
>Russian hacker currently living in china pings IIS netbios service over telnet with /w00tw00t.at.ISC.SANS.DFind
>MSE automatically emerges phpmyadmin, serving the hacker which it thinks is me and wants to give me a good computing experience made in Redmond.

>computer gets hijacked
>hacker deletes everything
>hacker installs gentoo
>tells me next time I should use a real system
>linux natively mounts iso
>use winetricks to configure wine
>play game at 99999fps all the time
>get laid

>mfw I'm now successful at life and have a wife.
Thank you linux.

(It's been probably eight years since I last used this copypasta, mhh good times. )

But seriously, yes, it's stable enough and usable, or they wouldn't be putting that thing in almost every device these days.

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haha, well meme'd, friend. straw men are great at making points. why can't linux figure out how to push desktop to monitors on two gpus?

Thanks. Not a strawman, though, or you wouldn't be so desperate to have Linux finally running for you.

Edit:
To not just be a jerk, which I admittedly am a bit here...
Dual GPUs are a bit of a weak spot, I can't speak from experience because I don't have a setup like that, but it seems that the fault lies both on xorg being crusty and Nvidia being proprietary.
From a cursory search it seems that a dual setup does work for some, but I'm getting a lot of "it's the drivers fault" too, and those are less the fault of Linux but of hardware manufacturers who don't want to cooperate.

Linux isn't perfect, but it is a stable desktop environment, and it's mostly getting better. No OS is perfect.

Edit2:
Oh, right, I actually have a personal example.

I bought a fancy schmancy cintiq 24 pro in 2018, and I can't use the touch strip quickbuttons in the top right because Xorgs keycodes don't go beyond '255', which those special buttons (on screen keyboard, settings, etc) are outside of, and are therefore being ignored, and therefore can't be bound.

Furthermore, it seems to be using some weird protocol to change colors, brightness and contrast, and the only way I can change them is by booting into Windows, which the tablet thankfully keeps internally.

But:
You won't find me drawing in Windows, even though all the programs I use are available for it.
Even though I have to use "xsetwacom" instead of a gui (although for the vast majority of operations, I prefer this now, calibration was a bit more of a mouthful and I'm glad it's behind me now, heh), even though I can't change the color temps and stuff on a whim, even though I have to juggle screens with hacky scripts I set to UDEV (usb events, etc) hooks because the tablet is huge, slurps electricity and all that, and I keep it off most of the time, but without disabling it, Xorg reserves the desktop space for it and the mouse can just go off to the side for 2034830483 pixels.

It's hoops to jump through, but I still do it all in Linux because despite these hitches, despite concessions sometimes, it's simply superior, at least for me.
I cannot imagine ever going back to windows as my daily driver, especially with wine and photon and whatnot getting better and better, for those non Linux game cravings I still sometimes have.

Edit3:
(Sorry for all the edits, lol, these thoughts trickle in)
Another personal thing ,this time positive!

I have this extremely old midi usb keyboard, which was cheap even 13 years ago and it's half falling apart but I am still using it because Linux allowed me to extend its tragic lifespan.
Some of the keyboard keys (and this is a known bug to the manufacturer) send volume change events, usually way down into quietness, which is incredibly annoying, but I could work around it.
First, I did it with some midi routing software that translated/filtered events, that worked but I didn't like having to run a middleman program just for this.
Then I decided to check out the Linux source code and the driver section, and I changed the midi seq bit to filter out these volume changes for me, and compiled it into my own module which I then put into an override directory.
That allowed me to play the keyboard, even though it really really wants to die already, to this day.

Not to mention Jack audio, oh I love jack audio, I have a setup where I jumbled together several midi tools (yes, I said just now that I don't like middleware, but these ones have a point and aren't just a fix!).
One of which is called "Brainstorm" which is a midi input recorder, so every time I jam around, improvising, whatever, this, along with some more UDEV scripts always make sure that random 'gems' get saved.

I don't know how I would do that in windows, in jack its easy peasy (especially with a graphical node editor like patchage, where you can just connect different audio components.).
I wish jack were the standard, not pulse...screw pulse, jack is king!
So good!

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